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		<title>By: dutchmarbel</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/israel_attacks_hamas_in_gaza/comment-page-1/#comment-543664</link>
		<dc:creator>dutchmarbel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The rockets kill on average 3 israeli&#039;s per year (even in the years where they send thousands). The Israeli&#039;s started these attacks at a time when all the schoolchildren went home after school. They also target everything that is part of the government (police-officers, ministeries, etc.), since they reason that all government is Hamas. sO This week 1 Israeli has been killed by the rockets and how many Palestinians? Last report I saw said &gt;300. That is an inappropriate response.

The cease fire was broken by Israel november 4th, not by Hamas (they responded by firing rockets though, and as ineffective as they are they still shouldn&#039;t fire them because they aren&#039;t damaging just military targets). Israel also kept the borders practically closed during the cease-fire. The people in the Gaza didn&#039;t have enough food, fuel, power, medicin, etc. 

It&#039;s like those Israeli soldiers killing the boys that throw stones at them: the boys are in the wrong throwing the stones, but the answer is so disproportionally violent that &#039;but they shouldn&#039;t throw stones&#039; shouldn&#039;t be the first reply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rockets kill on average 3 israeli's per year (even in the years where they send thousands). The Israeli's started these attacks at a time when all the schoolchildren went home after school. They also target everything that is part of the government (police-officers, ministeries, etc.), since they reason that all government is Hamas. sO This week 1 Israeli has been killed by the rockets and how many Palestinians? Last report I saw said &gt;300. That is an inappropriate response.</p>
<p>The cease fire was broken by Israel november 4th, not by Hamas (they responded by firing rockets though, and as ineffective as they are they still shouldn't fire them because they aren't damaging just military targets). Israel also kept the borders practically closed during the cease-fire. The people in the Gaza didn't have enough food, fuel, power, medicin, etc. </p>
<p>It's like those Israeli soldiers killing the boys that throw stones at them: the boys are in the wrong throwing the stones, but the answer is so disproportionally violent that 'but they shouldn't throw stones' shouldn't be the first reply.</p>
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		<title>By: Nach dem Krieg ist vor dem Krieg&#8230; &#124; Senseless Wisdom of Life</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nach dem Krieg ist vor dem Krieg&#8230; &#124; Senseless Wisdom of Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 20:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: G.A.Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.A.Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;PE Obama does not need to walk away on this...he just needs to have open talks with both sides and let both sides be &quot;heard&quot; not just a show of being seen as talking to both sides.
As regards to the Holocaust, although it was an awful time in history it is played up over and over again as a sympathy card by Israel....and it&#039;s wearing a little thin.&lt;/blockquote&gt; lol dude why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>PE Obama does not need to walk away on this...he just needs to have open talks with both sides and let both sides be "heard" not just a show of being seen as talking to both sides.<br />
As regards to the Holocaust, although it was an awful time in history it is played up over and over again as a sympathy card by Israel....and it's wearing a little thin.</p></blockquote>
<p> lol dude why?</p>
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		<title>By: HiItsNino</title>
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		<dc:creator>HiItsNino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 06:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those rockets being launched...who makes &#039;em?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those rockets being launched...who makes 'em?</p>
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		<title>By: ap</title>
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		<dc:creator>ap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 04:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Finally someone else can see that the Israeli&#039;s are breaking the rules of the Geneva Convention.
That has been my argument all along about this conflict...&lt;strong&gt;.Israel think they can do whatever they like and ANY laws do not apply to them.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;


uh, which law authorized those rockets from the hamas? surely not the cease-fire. troll troll go away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Finally someone else can see that the Israeli's are breaking the rules of the Geneva Convention.<br />
That has been my argument all along about this conflict...<strong>.Israel think they can do whatever they like and ANY laws do not apply to them.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>uh, which law authorized those rockets from the hamas? surely not the cease-fire. troll troll go away.</p>
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		<title>By: caj</title>
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		<dc:creator>caj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 02:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HALLELUJAH!!!

Finally someone else can see that the Israeli&#039;s are breaking the rules of the Geneva Convention.
That has been my argument all along about this conflict....Israel think they can do whatever they like and ANY laws do not apply to them.
Where are we in condemning these attacks, we stay silent as we always do and condone the attacks the Israeli&#039;s make on Palestine.
Time is long overdue for Israel to be taken to task for their actions, they have got away with them for far too long and international action should be taken against them.

Latest from The Nation. 12/28/08
Israel breaking Geneva Convention!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HALLELUJAH!!!</p>
<p>Finally someone else can see that the Israeli's are breaking the rules of the Geneva Convention.<br />
That has been my argument all along about this conflict....Israel think they can do whatever they like and ANY laws do not apply to them.<br />
Where are we in condemning these attacks, we stay silent as we always do and condone the attacks the Israeli's make on Palestine.<br />
Time is long overdue for Israel to be taken to task for their actions, they have got away with them for far too long and international action should be taken against them.</p>
<p>Latest from The Nation. 12/28/08<br />
Israel breaking Geneva Convention!!!</p>
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		<title>By: tom p</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 01:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Betting on continued violence in this perennial conflict is about as close to a sure thing it gets.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I wonder what &quot;Intrade&quot; has it at right now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Betting on continued violence in this perennial conflict is about as close to a sure thing it gets.</p></blockquote>
<p>I wonder what "Intrade" has it at right now?</p>
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		<title>By: caj</title>
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		<dc:creator>caj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 21:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My hope is that PE Obama will have a different mind set in regard to dealing with this Israeli/Palestine conflict  that what we have now.
I think our constant siding with Israel over anything they do against the Palestine people sends the wrong message and I don&#039;t know how that can ever put us in a good light as &quot;honest brokers&quot; in this situation, he said he will talk to &quot;our enemies&quot; as well as friends so I hope that will be the case here.
We can&#039;t dismiss talking to Hamas, after all they are the chosen leaders of Palestine whether we or Israel like it or not.....we can&#039;t just keep saying they are &quot;terrorists&quot;, they have a right to be heard also....talks were held with the IRA by the UK and talks were held with  Gen Gadaffi from Libya and both of those were known as &quot;terrorists&quot;.
So the time has come for us to be bold enough to speak to Hamas and the Israeli side in a fair and balanced way to try and resolve this ongoing issue!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My hope is that PE Obama will have a different mind set in regard to dealing with this Israeli/Palestine conflict  that what we have now.<br />
I think our constant siding with Israel over anything they do against the Palestine people sends the wrong message and I don't know how that can ever put us in a good light as "honest brokers" in this situation, he said he will talk to "our enemies" as well as friends so I hope that will be the case here.<br />
We can't dismiss talking to Hamas, after all they are the chosen leaders of Palestine whether we or Israel like it or not.....we can't just keep saying they are "terrorists", they have a right to be heard also....talks were held with the IRA by the UK and talks were held with  Gen Gadaffi from Libya and both of those were known as "terrorists".<br />
So the time has come for us to be bold enough to speak to Hamas and the Israeli side in a fair and balanced way to try and resolve this ongoing issue!!</p>
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		<title>By: caj</title>
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		<dc:creator>caj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 20:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you advocating more of the same? Or do you want Obama to walk away (as Roosevelt did) and encourage another Holocaust?

Posted by Dane C. Russell 


PE Obama does not need to walk away on this...he just needs to have open talks with both sides and let both sides be &quot;heard&quot; not just a show of being seen as talking to both sides.
As regards to the Holocaust, although it was an awful time in history it is played up over and over again as a sympathy card by Israel....and it&#039;s wearing a little thin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you advocating more of the same? Or do you want Obama to walk away (as Roosevelt did) and encourage another Holocaust?</p>
<p>Posted by Dane C. Russell </p>
<p>PE Obama does not need to walk away on this...he just needs to have open talks with both sides and let both sides be "heard" not just a show of being seen as talking to both sides.<br />
As regards to the Holocaust, although it was an awful time in history it is played up over and over again as a sympathy card by Israel....and it's wearing a little thin.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rayment&#039;s article is one of the most naive, disingenuous pieces of palestinian-apologist claptrap I have read in quite a while.  Hamas just launched 80 rockets into Israel on Wednesday, and every single one of them was aimed exclusively at civilians.  

Look, none of this is news.  Hamas is going to keep on provoking Israel, because the Israeli response justifies their existence.  Unfortunately, no one in the Arab community will ever tell them to quit it long enough for any real peace to pop into being.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rayment's article is one of the most naive, disingenuous pieces of palestinian-apologist claptrap I have read in quite a while.  Hamas just launched 80 rockets into Israel on Wednesday, and every single one of them was aimed exclusively at civilians.  </p>
<p>Look, none of this is news.  Hamas is going to keep on provoking Israel, because the Israeli response justifies their existence.  Unfortunately, no one in the Arab community will ever tell them to quit it long enough for any real peace to pop into being.</p>
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		<title>By: No, This Isn&#8217;t the Crisis</title>
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		<dc:creator>No, This Isn&#8217;t the Crisis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the comments thread to James&#8217;s post about the recent Israeli offensive against Hamas in Gaza, a commenter wondered if that were the crisis that VP-Elect Joe Biden warned [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the comments thread to James&#8217;s post about the recent Israeli offensive against Hamas in Gaza, a commenter wondered if that were the crisis that VP-Elect Joe Biden warned [...]</p>
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		<title>By: King Politics</title>
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		<dc:creator>King Politics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this the crisis Joe Biden promised us?</description>
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		<title>By: Al Bee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al Bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have been negotiating a peace between Islam and Israel for sixty years. The Islamic terrorists start with rockets and missiles. When Israel retaliates, Americans go postal accusing the Israelis of murder, genocide, class warfare and religious cleansing.

I respect power and if comes with bomb so be it! 

Stop the shells, rockets and missiles and the problem disappears.  It wasn&#039;t the Jews in 9/11, Bali, the USS Cole ad nauseam, so stop the liberal baloney and place the blame squarely on the Islamic religion,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have been negotiating a peace between Islam and Israel for sixty years. The Islamic terrorists start with rockets and missiles. When Israel retaliates, Americans go postal accusing the Israelis of murder, genocide, class warfare and religious cleansing.</p>
<p>I respect power and if comes with bomb so be it! </p>
<p>Stop the shells, rockets and missiles and the problem disappears.  It wasn't the Jews in 9/11, Bali, the USS Cole ad nauseam, so stop the liberal baloney and place the blame squarely on the Islamic religion,</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I tend not to post when Israel goes on the offensive in Gaza simply because I don&#039;t think it&#039;s news (other than in Israel).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Pretty much why I didn&#039;t post the &quot;news&quot; yesterday when it broke.  I find the byplay more interesting than the play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I tend not to post when Israel goes on the offensive in Gaza simply because I don't think it's news (other than in Israel).</p></blockquote>
<p>Pretty much why I didn't post the "news" yesterday when it broke.  I find the byplay more interesting than the play.</p>
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		<title>By: Dane C. Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dane C. Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey caj, U.S. Presidents have been tolerant and talking to Palestine leaders for decades.  The main result has been repeated Palestinian lies followed by repeated Palestinian attempts to exterminate the Jews.  

Are you advocating more of the same?  Or do you want Obama to walk away (as Roosevelt did) and encourage another Holocaust?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey caj, U.S. Presidents have been tolerant and talking to Palestine leaders for decades.  The main result has been repeated Palestinian lies followed by repeated Palestinian attempts to exterminate the Jews.  </p>
<p>Are you advocating more of the same?  Or do you want Obama to walk away (as Roosevelt did) and encourage another Holocaust?</p>
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