Comments on: Israel Invades Lebanon

By: Ora Massayr

Ora Massayr — Thu, 13 Jul 2006 20:53:25 +0000

actually the timing of the Hizbollah operation was really bad, at the height of the tourist season. hopefully next summer will be better.
all the guests at my hotel have left.

By: Ora Massayr

Ora Massayr — Thu, 13 Jul 2006 20:42:59 +0000

Really? a war in Lebanon? sounds great.
i better do some serious shopping.

By: gordon

gordon — Thu, 13 Jul 2006 15:53:32 +0000

Its very odd to hear people criticize the IDF for not having an "exit strategy," especially pro-Iraq war people. We didn't have, and still don't, have an exit stragety in Iraq (short of, "when Iraq can defend itself.") Now I will admit that the IDF offensive may have been a bit of an overreaction. I mean, come on, they are bombing an airport.

By: Cernig

Cernig — Thu, 13 Jul 2006 10:44:44 +0000

Ozzie,

I understood what you were saying.

I just wanted to know what the argument was to back up the statement. I'm genuinely interested in the debate. Your position seems inconsistent to me. Rather than clog up JJ's thread, you could email me. (newshogATgmailDOTcom) Whaddaya say?

Regards, C

By: Ozzie

Ozzie — Thu, 13 Jul 2006 07:16:46 +0000

Cernig,

I read the link and I understood what you said but I stand by my comment. Maybe I wasn't as clear as I should have been.

The situation that Israel faces is not the same as India. You cannot truly compare the two.

By: Mythusmage Opines » Blog Archive » The Price of Provocation

Mythusmage Opines » Blog Archive » The Price of Provocation — Thu, 13 Jul 2006 03:47:43 +0000

[...] Israel is now fighting a two front war. From OtB we get this story about Israel’s invasion of Southern Lebanon. It might be a raid, but considering Israel’s actions in Gaza concerning the kidnappings there, It’s more likely Israel is in Lebanon for a long time. [...]

By: charles austin

charles austin — Thu, 13 Jul 2006 02:09:03 +0000

I concur on wanting definite criteria to define victory, but history seems to show that anything less than the unconditional surrender of your enemy constitutes an eventual re-entry strategy.

By: Polimom Says » Israel’s severe response

Polimom Says » Israel’s severe response — Thu, 13 Jul 2006 00:56:43 +0000

[...] Things are unraveling at a pretty astounding clip, now, with Israel’s invasion of Lebanon today. James Joyner has a good analysis up (here), including an unnerving escalation update. [...]

By: Dusty

Dusty — Thu, 13 Jul 2006 00:08:29 +0000

It might be worth floating the idea of an international consortium type government to rule the Palestinians for some extended period of time similar to the occupation of Germany after WWII, sans Israel being a party to that. That should not, however, be the UN. As an extension to this maybe the territories could be divided into a multitude of mini-states. With fences. One of the main problems is that anarchic nature of the Palestinian territories is that no area has the opportunity to devolve into a peaceful society; the threat from the madmen in their midst prevents it and for peace to be achieved these madmen need to be squeezed out of society. In addition, financial oversight would be enhanced and progress can be made on development. Miniature states might be the way.

But don't bet on it.

By: Cernig

Cernig — Wed, 12 Jul 2006 23:11:41 +0000

Ozzie, would you like to read the link and then maybe explain your position? Indian intelligence are saying the responsible groups are backed by Pakistan's ISI intelligence agency. I've just finished reading an Indian conservative's op-ed that reminds the world of Bush words - "'We will make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and those who harbour them" - and called upon the world to back India's carrying through on those words. Regards, C.

By: Ozzie

Ozzie — Wed, 12 Jul 2006 22:11:21 +0000

Cernig,

The situations are not equivalent, never have been and never will be. Yawp!

By: James Joyner

James Joyner — Wed, 12 Jul 2006 22:02:50 +0000

Charles, et. al: By "exit strategy" here I mean merely an endgame. While one might not have all the markers in mind at outset, it makes no sense to commence a military op unless one has in mind a status quo post bellum that would constitute "victory."

By: Cernig

Cernig — Wed, 12 Jul 2006 21:35:06 +0000

I fully support sending an unmistakable message about what happens when the populace supports terrorism. Would you be happy to see nuclear-armed US-allied India apply that to nuclear armed US-allied Pakistan as well? Because that's what the Indian rightwing is calling for. Regards, Cernig @ newshog

By: A Barbaric Yawp

A Barbaric Yawp — Wed, 12 Jul 2006 21:19:34 +0000

IDF Re-enters South Lebanon (Breaking News)...

Jameel is providing updates on the situation in Lebanon. Here is what I said in the comments there:
Let the fire rain from the sky. Hit them hard, hit them often and let them remember that actions like this never happen without swift and severe retalia...

By: Ozzie

Ozzie — Wed, 12 Jul 2006 21:14:34 +0000

I fully support sending an unmistakable message about what happens when the populace supports terrorism.