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		<title>By: Keith Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/it_aint_beanbag-2/comment-page-1/#comment-15288</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve found that in my year or so of reading blogs I&#039;ve gradually moved right from my previous left-wing position.  This has been, I believe, mostly due to some excellent right wing opinions I&#039;ve found in the blogosphere.  My writing has moved on since the days of worldwarbush.com to the point at which I can admit that maybe George Bush isn&#039;t the evil little monkey I always thought he was.  

He&#039;s still an idiot, mind you.  Just not evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've found that in my year or so of reading blogs I've gradually moved right from my previous left-wing position.  This has been, I believe, mostly due to some excellent right wing opinions I've found in the blogosphere.  My writing has moved on since the days of worldwarbush.com to the point at which I can admit that maybe George Bush isn't the evil little monkey I always thought he was.  </p>
<p>He's still an idiot, mind you.  Just not evil.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Progress!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Progress!</p>
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		<title>By: King of Fools</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/it_aint_beanbag-2/comment-page-1/#comment-15290</link>
		<dc:creator>King of Fools</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice to see some progress.  I stay away from the vitrol on both sides.  I&#039;m fairly conservative but I don&#039;t read LGF anymore - the comments are too far over the top.  I would rather read thought out arguments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to see some progress.  I stay away from the vitrol on both sides.  I'm fairly conservative but I don't read LGF anymore - the comments are too far over the top.  I would rather read thought out arguments.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/it_aint_beanbag-2/comment-page-1/#comment-15291</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I&#039;ve found that in my year or so of reading blogs I&#039;ve gradually moved right from my previous left-wing position.  &lt;/i&gt;


Keith I surfed your blog. I assume you have heard that quote from Winston Churchill:

&quot;If you are not liberal when you are young you have no heart. If you are not conservative when you are old, then you have no brain.&quot;

You are 22 so you are liberal. But I can tell you have a brain... We&#039;ll win. ;-)

Paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I've found that in my year or so of reading blogs I've gradually moved right from my previous left-wing position.  </i></p>
<p>Keith I surfed your blog. I assume you have heard that quote from Winston Churchill:</p>
<p>"If you are not liberal when you are young you have no heart. If you are not conservative when you are old, then you have no brain."</p>
<p>You are 22 so you are liberal. But I can tell you have a brain... We'll win. ;-)</p>
<p>Paul</p>
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		<title>By: legion</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/it_aint_beanbag-2/comment-page-1/#comment-15292</link>
		<dc:creator>legion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;m (mostly) a lefty - I read Kos and Oliver W and a few other sites because I like the writing of those people. But I rarely look through the comments on those sites. Why? Because it&#039;s boring to discuss issues with people who hold the same point of view as you.

Oh sure, there are plenty of people on both sides who&#039;re only interested in the mental masturbation of &quot;me too!&quot;, but I spend much more time looking through the comments at places like this and VodkaPundit precisely because they lean right (and I like a balanced diet of propaganda :-) and the posters are largely sane and civil (even if they&#039;re wrong :-). Seriously though, like the quote from Paul, it&#039;s just more interesting to discuss things with different people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I'm (mostly) a lefty - I read Kos and Oliver W and a few other sites because I like the writing of those people. But I rarely look through the comments on those sites. Why? Because it's boring to discuss issues with people who hold the same point of view as you.</p>
<p>Oh sure, there are plenty of people on both sides who're only interested in the mental masturbation of "me too!", but I spend much more time looking through the comments at places like this and VodkaPundit precisely because they lean right (and I like a balanced diet of propaganda :-) and the posters are largely sane and civil (even if they're wrong :-). Seriously though, like the quote from Paul, it's just more interesting to discuss things with different people.</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn.  I use &quot;asshat&quot; in my blog.  But I find it very therapeutic after reading posts that borderline on insanity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn.  I use "asshat" in my blog.  But I find it very therapeutic after reading posts that borderline on insanity.</p>
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		<title>By: akim</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/it_aint_beanbag-2/comment-page-1/#comment-15294</link>
		<dc:creator>akim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess what actually changes minds is not so much political discourse as the reality of events - when a certain rherotical line deviates too much from observable reality (if you care to take a close look) those who were previously following that line, right or left, will shrink back a bit and start wondering what&#039;s amiss. 

For instance, there is much complaint from every  side about media bias. Yeah, well. The media, everywhere in this world, edit like hell - what&#039;s good about some parts of the blogosphere (not all of it for sure) is that you can gain access to additional in-depth information and put it all together for yourself. 

So far I am finding that the most enlightening and hard-to-come-by infos are to be found not in major or even more or less known blogs, but with some recondite bloggers having access to things most people/media are quite simply not aware of. Big op-eds in big press are rather often based on amazingly superficial information - and heated debate that surrounds these op-eds thus appears somewhat hollow by contrast. I am certain that my picture of &quot;current events&quot; would be vastly different if I only had access to major western media - n.american and european (as I remember it being from before discovering those blogs). 

So my view is: the informational aspect of blogosphere is really much more important than its more &quot;shockingly&quot; visible political heat-field. It jumps at you when you first dip in but it&#039;s not what makes it worthwhile in the end.

Also, I think intemperate language and insult is ok when you don&#039;t aim at attracting readers and ruling minds - when you do, it&#039;s a liability and a fucking crime :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess what actually changes minds is not so much political discourse as the reality of events - when a certain rherotical line deviates too much from observable reality (if you care to take a close look) those who were previously following that line, right or left, will shrink back a bit and start wondering what's amiss. </p>
<p>For instance, there is much complaint from every  side about media bias. Yeah, well. The media, everywhere in this world, edit like hell - what's good about some parts of the blogosphere (not all of it for sure) is that you can gain access to additional in-depth information and put it all together for yourself. </p>
<p>So far I am finding that the most enlightening and hard-to-come-by infos are to be found not in major or even more or less known blogs, but with some recondite bloggers having access to things most people/media are quite simply not aware of. Big op-eds in big press are rather often based on amazingly superficial information - and heated debate that surrounds these op-eds thus appears somewhat hollow by contrast. I am certain that my picture of "current events" would be vastly different if I only had access to major western media - n.american and european (as I remember it being from before discovering those blogs). </p>
<p>So my view is: the informational aspect of blogosphere is really much more important than its more "shockingly" visible political heat-field. It jumps at you when you first dip in but it's not what makes it worthwhile in the end.</p>
<p>Also, I think intemperate language and insult is ok when you don't aim at attracting readers and ruling minds - when you do, it's a liability and a fucking crime :)</p>
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		<title>By: Rooftop Report</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/it_aint_beanbag-2/comment-page-1/#comment-15295</link>
		<dc:creator>Rooftop Report</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Morning Bang&lt;/strong&gt;
Sorry for the lack of posts, Easter called. Jumping right back in: - So, I know guessing when Andrew Sullivan is going Dem is fun, but how about we start a pool on McCain as well? I have May 27th.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Morning Bang</strong><br />
Sorry for the lack of posts, Easter called. Jumping right back in: - So, I know guessing when Andrew Sullivan is going Dem is fun, but how about we start a pool on McCain as well? I have May 27th.</p>
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		<title>By: PoliBlog</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/it_aint_beanbag-2/comment-page-1/#comment-15296</link>
		<dc:creator>PoliBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Seeking the Reasonable&lt;/strong&gt;
I think that the Rooftop Report misses my point on the contents and styles of some bloggers:Steven Taylor has given up reading Kos, Atrios, and Little Green Footballs due to their heavily slanted coverage. Strangely he has not said anything...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Seeking the Reasonable</strong><br />
I think that the Rooftop Report misses my point on the contents and styles of some bloggers:Steven Taylor has given up reading Kos, Atrios, and Little Green Footballs due to their heavily slanted coverage. Strangely he has not said anything...</p>
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