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		<title>By: Blind Mind&#8217;s Eye  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; Newsweek died, people lied, what do you expect? Move on please</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/its_not_just_newsweek/comment-page-1/#comment-46488</link>
		<dc:creator>Blind Mind&#8217;s Eye  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; Newsweek died, people lied, what do you expect? Move on please</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2005 14:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: IcallMasICM</title>
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		<dc:creator>IcallMasICM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2005 16:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim - 

Actually her retraction was based on a source contacting her and she did the responsible thing by retracting from her book and blog. She didn&#039;t have to have the Press Secretary for the POTUS ask her to do it. Whether you like her or not there&#039;s no indication from this that she did shoddy work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim - </p>
<p>Actually her retraction was based on a source contacting her and she did the responsible thing by retracting from her book and blog. She didn't have to have the Press Secretary for the POTUS ask her to do it. Whether you like her or not there's no indication from this that she did shoddy work.</p>
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		<title>By: LJD</title>
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		<dc:creator>LJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2005 15:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;One of the pressâ defenses (and also that of its sympathizers) is that the press polices itself.&quot;

Yeah, but the U.S. Army doesn&#039;t, right?

...And no expectation that terrorists (a.k.a. militants, fighters, etc.) should do the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"One of the pressâ defenses (and also that of its sympathizers) is that the press polices itself."</p>
<p>Yeah, but the U.S. Army doesn't, right?</p>
<p>...And no expectation that terrorists (a.k.a. militants, fighters, etc.) should do the same.</p>
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		<title>By: JackLewis.net</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/its_not_just_newsweek/comment-page-1/#comment-46388</link>
		<dc:creator>JackLewis.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2005 13:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Commentaries on Newsweek&#039;s fiasco&lt;/strong&gt;
Ann Coulter Newsweek Dissembled, Muslims Dismembered! &quot;Why no pause for reflection when Isikoff had a story about American interrogators at...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Commentaries on Newsweek's fiasco</strong><br />
Ann Coulter Newsweek Dissembled, Muslims Dismembered! "Why no pause for reflection when Isikoff had a story about American interrogators at...</p>
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		<title>By: Bill's Correspondence Chess Diary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill's Correspondence Chess Diary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2005 00:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Frank Gorshin RIP &lt;/strong&gt;
The actor and impressionist best known as The Riddler on the Sixties version of Batman, passed away yesterday. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Frank Gorshin RIP </strong><br />
The actor and impressionist best known as The Riddler on the Sixties version of Batman, passed away yesterday.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2005 22:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>carpeicthus:  You should read the posts before commenting on them.

&quot;I still refuse to believe that any but the fringe media are quite there. Sadly, though, the effective difference is nil.&quot;

Are they on the other side? No. But reporting as if the U.S. and the insurgents are morally equal, and giving especial emphasis to isolated acts committed by American soldiers, has the same effect: A propaganda victory for the enemy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>carpeicthus:  You should read the posts before commenting on them.</p>
<p>"I still refuse to believe that any but the fringe media are quite there. Sadly, though, the effective difference is nil."</p>
<p>Are they on the other side? No. But reporting as if the U.S. and the insurgents are morally equal, and giving especial emphasis to isolated acts committed by American soldiers, has the same effect: A propaganda victory for the enemy.</p>
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		<title>By: carpeicthus</title>
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		<dc:creator>carpeicthus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2005 22:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please, James, please back up your statement that the media is your enemy. If they&#039;re on the other side, would you shoot a media member if you saw one on the street? Why not, he&#039;s your enemy! He&#039;s trying to kill you and your family!

No, you wouldn&#039;t. Because you aren&#039;t actually nuts. But sometimes you and Glenn like to talk like you are, because it gets you rhetorical points. But either show the courage of your convictions and let us know that you&#039;ve decided to go off the deep end or realize that calling a reporter a member of &quot;the other side&quot; is no less silly than saying Bush = Hitler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please, James, please back up your statement that the media is your enemy. If they're on the other side, would you shoot a media member if you saw one on the street? Why not, he's your enemy! He's trying to kill you and your family!</p>
<p>No, you wouldn't. Because you aren't actually nuts. But sometimes you and Glenn like to talk like you are, because it gets you rhetorical points. But either show the courage of your convictions and let us know that you've decided to go off the deep end or realize that calling a reporter a member of "the other side" is no less silly than saying Bush = Hitler.</p>
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		<title>By: Lurking Observer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lurking Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2005 22:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James: 

One of the press&#039; defenses (and also that of its sympathizers) is that the press polices itself. 

If Malkin issues a retraction, how is that any worse than the NYT or the Detroit Free Press admitting they screwed up? 

It would seem to me that it&#039;s &quot;the height of responsibility&quot; for Malkin to correct her book, in the same manner as the MSM claims to be responsible. 

Let&#039;s face it, she&#039;s done a better job by that one step alone than, say, Michael Bellesiles did/has done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James: </p>
<p>One of the press' defenses (and also that of its sympathizers) is that the press polices itself. </p>
<p>If Malkin issues a retraction, how is that any worse than the NYT or the Detroit Free Press admitting they screwed up? </p>
<p>It would seem to me that it's "the height of responsibility" for Malkin to correct her book, in the same manner as the MSM claims to be responsible. </p>
<p>Let's face it, she's done a better job by that one step alone than, say, Michael Bellesiles did/has done.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2005 22:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt; Jack, pointing out that Malkin is shoddy writer herself is a personal attack and insult?&lt;/em&gt;

Well, duh. It&#039;s called ad hominem.  Rather than attacking the argument, you attack the person.  Whether Malkin is a good writer really has nothing to do with her claims, which either have merit or they do not.

And the errata you cite are 1) her own admission, not widely publicized anywhere, 2) over the use of adjectives which are probably true but had to be inferred, and 3) did not spark riots that killed over a dozen people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em> Jack, pointing out that Malkin is shoddy writer herself is a personal attack and insult?</em></p>
<p>Well, duh. It's called ad hominem.  Rather than attacking the argument, you attack the person.  Whether Malkin is a good writer really has nothing to do with her claims, which either have merit or they do not.</p>
<p>And the errata you cite are 1) her own admission, not widely publicized anywhere, 2) over the use of adjectives which are probably true but had to be inferred, and 3) did not spark riots that killed over a dozen people.</p>
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		<title>By: herb</title>
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		<dc:creator>herb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2005 21:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s face it, most MSM are nothing more than a bunch of whining loosers that got their ass beat twice by the Republicans. Their constant whining make them anti American whimps that puts them in a class as Trators to our troops and America. It seems they are in their glory when they demomstrate like the Un American assholes they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let's face it, most MSM are nothing more than a bunch of whining loosers that got their ass beat twice by the Republicans. Their constant whining make them anti American whimps that puts them in a class as Trators to our troops and America. It seems they are in their glory when they demomstrate like the Un American assholes they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2005 21:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack, pointing out that Malkin is shoddy writer herself is a personal attack and insult?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack, pointing out that Malkin is shoddy writer herself is a personal attack and insult?</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Tanner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Tanner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2005 20:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No obviously I&#039;m talking about the previous and subsequent pointless comments.</description>
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		<title>By: Meezer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meezer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2005 20:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I see *now* that Michelle already covered it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I see *now* that Michelle already covered it.</p>
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		<title>By: Meezer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meezer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2005 20:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget the entire museum looted of priceless treasures - reported for weeks. All true. Except for the part that it never happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don't forget the entire museum looted of priceless treasures - reported for weeks. All true. Except for the part that it never happened.</p>
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		<title>By: Lurking Observer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lurking Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2005 20:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kappiy: 

So, flushing Korans down toilets is &quot;fake, but accurate,&quot; b/c it was conceivable that it might be happening. 

But

Saddam actually having WMD was &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; possible despite: 

1. His having used them on Iranians. 
2. His having used them on Iraqis. 
3. His having hidden the program from inspectors. 
4. His failing to come clean on what he had done w/ the materials that he had had but had not disposed of. 

Riiiight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kappiy: </p>
<p>So, flushing Korans down toilets is "fake, but accurate," b/c it was conceivable that it might be happening. </p>
<p>But</p>
<p>Saddam actually having WMD was <b>not</b> possible despite: </p>
<p>1. His having used them on Iranians.<br />
2. His having used them on Iraqis.<br />
3. His having hidden the program from inspectors.<br />
4. His failing to come clean on what he had done w/ the materials that he had had but had not disposed of. </p>
<p>Riiiight.</p>
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