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		<title>By: mariogeorgenitrini111</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/jeff_goldstein_gets_some_nasty_email/comment-page-1/#comment-89288</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2006 23:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Outside The Beltway


Itâ??s just SO Admirable to see you have SO MUCH outrage about Deb Frischâ??s comments about Jeff Goldsteinâ??s toddler child. For someone to attack, use, and/or harm a child is as low as a person can stoop.

But Iâ??m wondering, is it the Dispicable attack by Deb Frisch on Mr. Goldstienâ??s child that upsetâ??s you? or is it just a political agenda you can â??Rideâ?? with?

Letâ??s REALLY find out how much outrage you have when it comes to someone(s) attacking, using, and/or harming children.

During The OJ Simpson Case Criminal Trial, the Illegal and Corrrupt Detective Ronald Y. Ito was going to Illegally â??USEâ?? Rocky Batemanâ??s 2 daughters to his advantage to make Rocky Bateman â??TALK,â?? and More. ANY OUTRAGE WITH THIS? LOTâ??S of people knew about it, and did nothing, Inluding certain people who are in The Federal Government.

Or how about this:

There is a Childrenâ??s Toy:

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That I have talked about.

Gil Garcetti and others in the State of California Government, and certain people in The Federal Government, with Retail Companies, have covered-up a MAJOR, MAJOR, MAJOR Situation with this Company called â??Mr. Bath Bearâ?? (Pertkit, I spelled it wrong before)). Certain people and Government Organizations have Illegally retailiated against me because of this. This was a childrenâ??s toy. I worked for this company, â??Mr Bath Bear,â?? in 1991 through some of 1992. Some of the sponges had â??TOXIC POISONâ?? in them and other harmful Chemicalâ??s added, for reasons, to make the toy grow in water, and then shrink back to itâ??s normal size. The Toy was sold by me to companies like Nordstroms, Sears, Jacobsonâ??s Department Storeâ??s, The Mercantile Group, Longs Drugs, Fedco, Albertsons, and MANY MORE Retail outletâ??sâ?¦â?¦â?¦.I can go on and onâ?¦â?¦â?¦.. Iâ??ve got this Documented BIG-TIME (Invoices, Ect, LOTâ??S), and, The product was sold after a certain time period by certain retail outletâ??s â??WITHOUT,â?? and I repeat, â??WITHOUTâ?? Product Liability Insurance. Another words, The Product Liability Insurance ran out, and the product was sold by MANY Retail Outletâ??s after the Product Liability Insurance ran out. When I found out, I told Many People, Certain Government Organizations, and Companies about this, but no one did anything about it for whatever Greedy, Illegal Reasons, and MORE. I am Talking $$$$$ BILLIONS and BILLIONS of $$$$$$$$ Dollars in Potential lawsuits, Very Possible Negligent Criminal Homicide, Criminal and Illegal Cover-up, and MORE. Certain people and Organizations have tried to have me WIPED OFF the Face of the earth just for this Situation alone. Itâ??s a Very Complex Situation.

ANYONE, AND I MEAN ANYONE, that has ever had his or her child, or children play, Chew on, or come in contact with this toy, they need to get them to a doctor, FAST. THIS IS SERIOUS.

I am talking thousands of children that may have been infected, and now their offspring that could be harmed.

Do you have ANY OUTRAGE about this situation? I WOULD CERTAINLY HOPE SO.

OR,

is your political agenda just too important not to help children?

MarioGeorgeNitrini111
mariogeorgenitrini111


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outside The Beltway</p>
<p>Itâ??s just SO Admirable to see you have SO MUCH outrage about Deb Frischâ??s comments about Jeff Goldsteinâ??s toddler child. For someone to attack, use, and/or harm a child is as low as a person can stoop.</p>
<p>But Iâ??m wondering, is it the Dispicable attack by Deb Frisch on Mr. Goldstienâ??s child that upsetâ??s you? or is it just a political agenda you can â??Rideâ?? with?</p>
<p>Letâ??s REALLY find out how much outrage you have when it comes to someone(s) attacking, using, and/or harming children.</p>
<p>During The OJ Simpson Case Criminal Trial, the Illegal and Corrrupt Detective Ronald Y. Ito was going to Illegally â??USEâ?? Rocky Batemanâ??s 2 daughters to his advantage to make Rocky Bateman â??TALK,â?? and More. ANY OUTRAGE WITH THIS? LOTâ??S of people knew about it, and did nothing, Inluding certain people who are in The Federal Government.</p>
<p>Or how about this:</p>
<p>There is a Childrenâ??s Toy:</p>
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MySpace Profile - Mario G., 55 years old, Male, RESEDA, CALIFORNIA, US, â?¦<br />
Mario G.â??s Latest Blog Entry [Subscribe to this Blog] â?¦<br />
<a href="http://www.myspace.com/mariognitrini111" rel="nofollow">http://www.myspace.com/mariognitrini111</a> - Cached</p>
<p>That I have talked about.</p>
<p>Gil Garcetti and others in the State of California Government, and certain people in The Federal Government, with Retail Companies, have covered-up a MAJOR, MAJOR, MAJOR Situation with this Company called â??Mr. Bath Bearâ?? (Pertkit, I spelled it wrong before)). Certain people and Government Organizations have Illegally retailiated against me because of this. This was a childrenâ??s toy. I worked for this company, â??Mr Bath Bear,â?? in 1991 through some of 1992. Some of the sponges had â??TOXIC POISONâ?? in them and other harmful Chemicalâ??s added, for reasons, to make the toy grow in water, and then shrink back to itâ??s normal size. The Toy was sold by me to companies like Nordstroms, Sears, Jacobsonâ??s Department Storeâ??s, The Mercantile Group, Longs Drugs, Fedco, Albertsons, and MANY MORE Retail outletâ??sâ?¦â?¦â?¦.I can go on and onâ?¦â?¦â?¦.. Iâ??ve got this Documented BIG-TIME (Invoices, Ect, LOTâ??S), and, The product was sold after a certain time period by certain retail outletâ??s â??WITHOUT,â?? and I repeat, â??WITHOUTâ?? Product Liability Insurance. Another words, The Product Liability Insurance ran out, and the product was sold by MANY Retail Outletâ??s after the Product Liability Insurance ran out. When I found out, I told Many People, Certain Government Organizations, and Companies about this, but no one did anything about it for whatever Greedy, Illegal Reasons, and MORE. I am Talking $$$$$ BILLIONS and BILLIONS of $$$$$$$$ Dollars in Potential lawsuits, Very Possible Negligent Criminal Homicide, Criminal and Illegal Cover-up, and MORE. Certain people and Organizations have tried to have me WIPED OFF the Face of the earth just for this Situation alone. Itâ??s a Very Complex Situation.</p>
<p>ANYONE, AND I MEAN ANYONE, that has ever had his or her child, or children play, Chew on, or come in contact with this toy, they need to get them to a doctor, FAST. THIS IS SERIOUS.</p>
<p>I am talking thousands of children that may have been infected, and now their offspring that could be harmed.</p>
<p>Do you have ANY OUTRAGE about this situation? I WOULD CERTAINLY HOPE SO.</p>
<p>OR,</p>
<p>is your political agenda just too important not to help children?</p>
<p>MarioGeorgeNitrini111<br />
mariogeorgenitrini111</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/jeff_goldstein_gets_some_nasty_email/comment-page-1/#comment-89285</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2006 23:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, Kent.

And jpe, if Jeff is, as you claim, a loser, can you explain why there are apparently quite a number using DOS attacks to silence him?

Oh, I SEE...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, Kent.</p>
<p>And jpe, if Jeff is, as you claim, a loser, can you explain why there are apparently quite a number using DOS attacks to silence him?</p>
<p>Oh, I SEE...</p>
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		<title>By: Kent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2006 18:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Itâ??s just fun to mock losers like JG.&lt;/em&gt;

I think you have a twisted concept of &quot;fun.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Itâ??s just fun to mock losers like JG.</em></p>
<p>I think you have a twisted concept of "fun."</p>
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		<title>By: Tel-Chai Nation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tel-Chai Nation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2006 18:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Meet Deborah Frisch, aka Professor Cyberstalker...&lt;/strong&gt;

Protein Wisdom was recently attacked by a most alarming cybertroll, who turned out to be a professor at the Arizona university, Deborah Frisch, who also maintain her own blog and has quite a record of stalking other people&#039;s blogs as well. And the me....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Meet Deborah Frisch, aka Professor Cyberstalker...</strong></p>
<p>Protein Wisdom was recently attacked by a most alarming cybertroll, who turned out to be a professor at the Arizona university, Deborah Frisch, who also maintain her own blog and has quite a record of stalking other people's blogs as well. And the me....</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/jeff_goldstein_gets_some_nasty_email/comment-page-1/#comment-89271</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2006 18:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which raises a question of commenter &quot;jpe&quot;

If Jeff is such a loser, how is it the left nuts are trying to silence him in this way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which raises a question of commenter "jpe"</p>
<p>If Jeff is such a loser, how is it the left nuts are trying to silence him in this way?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Verdon</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/jeff_goldstein_gets_some_nasty_email/comment-page-1/#comment-89270</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Verdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2006 18:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Protein Wisdom is now back down.  Seems the DDOS attackers are nothing if not persistent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Protein Wisdom is now back down.  Seems the DDOS attackers are nothing if not persistent.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/jeff_goldstein_gets_some_nasty_email/comment-page-1/#comment-89268</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2006 17:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loser?

I think not.

If he is such a loser, then why does the left feel the need to silence him?
 
Balif, call the next case, please...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loser?</p>
<p>I think not.</p>
<p>If he is such a loser, then why does the left feel the need to silence him?</p>
<p>Balif, call the next case, please...</p>
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		<title>By: jpe</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/jeff_goldstein_gets_some_nasty_email/comment-page-1/#comment-89245</link>
		<dc:creator>jpe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2006 03:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I think it is GDS - Goldstein Derangement Syndrome!&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s just fun to mock losers like JG.  There&#039;s no need to clinicize everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I think it is GDS - Goldstein Derangement Syndrome!</i></p>
<p>It's just fun to mock losers like JG.  There's no need to clinicize everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/jeff_goldstein_gets_some_nasty_email/comment-page-1/#comment-89241</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2006 23:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eh... That was the university&#039;s address, anyway, not her own. Wrong end of the country, for one thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eh... That was the university's address, anyway, not her own. Wrong end of the country, for one thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Cernig</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/jeff_goldstein_gets_some_nasty_email/comment-page-1/#comment-89236</link>
		<dc:creator>Cernig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2006 22:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James,

YW. Integrity, like the kind of nastiness we&#039;ve been discussing here, isn&#039;t politics specific, I am glad to say. Thank you.

Regards, C</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James,</p>
<p>YW. Integrity, like the kind of nastiness we've been discussing here, isn't politics specific, I am glad to say. Thank you.</p>
<p>Regards, C</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/jeff_goldstein_gets_some_nasty_email/comment-page-1/#comment-89235</link>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2006 22:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cernig:  Done. Thanks for the heads&#039; up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cernig:  Done. Thanks for the heads' up.</p>
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		<title>By: Cernig</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/jeff_goldstein_gets_some_nasty_email/comment-page-1/#comment-89226</link>
		<dc:creator>Cernig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2006 21:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, is that Frisch&#039;s address a commenter has given up thread? 

If so, I&#039;m hoping you will delete it and ban the commenter. No matter what she has done, compounding the problem by possibly giving her address to insane individuals who may wish to cause her and her family physical harm in retribution is reprehensible on the part of that person.

Regards, Cernig</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, is that Frisch's address a commenter has given up thread? </p>
<p>If so, I'm hoping you will delete it and ban the commenter. No matter what she has done, compounding the problem by possibly giving her address to insane individuals who may wish to cause her and her family physical harm in retribution is reprehensible on the part of that person.</p>
<p>Regards, Cernig</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2006 20:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I suspect BDS is the root cause here&lt;/i&gt;

I dunno - we see plenty of the lefty blogs go bezerk over Goldstein - just look at what Atrios writes about him.  I think it is GDS - &lt;em&gt;Goldstein Derangement Syndrome&lt;/em&gt;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I suspect BDS is the root cause here</i></p>
<p>I dunno - we see plenty of the lefty blogs go bezerk over Goldstein - just look at what Atrios writes about him.  I think it is GDS - <em>Goldstein Derangement Syndrome</em>!</p>
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		<title>By: Random Yak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Random Yak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2006 19:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Offensive Comments, the Internet and Personal Responsibility...&lt;/strong&gt;

This is one of them.A (now) former professor at the University of Arizona apparently posted some truly vicious and horrible comments at Protein Wisdom (not always SFW), in resp...</description>
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		<title>By: Cernig</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/jeff_goldstein_gets_some_nasty_email/comment-page-1/#comment-89213</link>
		<dc:creator>Cernig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2006 19:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I just say that this kind of sickness has nothing to do with my kind of Left? I suspect the woman needs medication and probably a court appointed medical examiner at her trial for threatening behaviour would be a good person to adjudge that. I&#039;ve zero tolerance for that kind of troll, no matter what politics they espouse.

In fact, my tolerance for this kind of behaviour is even lower - and would include such as the posting of real-world addresses and phone numbers for private individuals in response to a newspaper real estate puff piece as Rocco DiPippo and Dan Reihl recently did. (What Goldstein experienced in this case is a quantum leap above even that reprehensible behaviour, though.)

I condemn all such behaviour. I will continue to do so. As &lt;a href=&quot;http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2006/07/thug-and-intimidation-tactics-of-far.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Glenn Greenwald&lt;/a&gt; says, &quot;it is not only those who engage in the tactics themselves who bear responsibility for the consequences, but also those who offer coldly bureaucratic indifference towards these tactics, or even an implicit defense of them.&quot;

Needless to say, anyone I had inadvertently blogrolled who behaved in such a way would be instantly delinked. I would never knowingly directly link to such a person in a post. Any commenter doing such at my blog would be banned and their ISP details handed to the aggrieved party so they could contact the cops etc.

I&#039;ve a theory, though - it has nothing to do with the politics. To accuse the &quot;wingnuts&quot; or &quot;moonbats&quot; of being the only offenders is to deliberately ignore way too much evidence to the contrary. The mentally instable are not party-specific. 

I&#039;m posting this comment with a link to the OTB post on my blog.

Regards, Cernig @ Newshog</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I just say that this kind of sickness has nothing to do with my kind of Left? I suspect the woman needs medication and probably a court appointed medical examiner at her trial for threatening behaviour would be a good person to adjudge that. I've zero tolerance for that kind of troll, no matter what politics they espouse.</p>
<p>In fact, my tolerance for this kind of behaviour is even lower - and would include such as the posting of real-world addresses and phone numbers for private individuals in response to a newspaper real estate puff piece as Rocco DiPippo and Dan Reihl recently did. (What Goldstein experienced in this case is a quantum leap above even that reprehensible behaviour, though.)</p>
<p>I condemn all such behaviour. I will continue to do so. As <a href="http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2006/07/thug-and-intimidation-tactics-of-far.html" rel="nofollow">Glenn Greenwald</a> says, "it is not only those who engage in the tactics themselves who bear responsibility for the consequences, but also those who offer coldly bureaucratic indifference towards these tactics, or even an implicit defense of them."</p>
<p>Needless to say, anyone I had inadvertently blogrolled who behaved in such a way would be instantly delinked. I would never knowingly directly link to such a person in a post. Any commenter doing such at my blog would be banned and their ISP details handed to the aggrieved party so they could contact the cops etc.</p>
<p>I've a theory, though - it has nothing to do with the politics. To accuse the "wingnuts" or "moonbats" of being the only offenders is to deliberately ignore way too much evidence to the contrary. The mentally instable are not party-specific. </p>
<p>I'm posting this comment with a link to the OTB post on my blog.</p>
<p>Regards, Cernig @ Newshog</p>
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