I thought that wonderfully illustrated the disconnect between people who describe themselves as "principled" conservatives, vs. the other 95% of the movement who actually supply the votes.

(Not that Lindgren himself is a self-described conservative, but some of his best friends are, and they would never have followed a Jesse Helms ... etc.)

For the record, I never mentioned Mary Jo Kopechne in this thread (before now), and I am outraged that somebody would use her name in a sentence beginning: "as William d'Inger mentioned". Whatever I do say is fair game for anyone wanting to take a shot at me, but I will not abide people putting words in my mouth. Understood?!

Or, as William d'Inger mentioned at 6:25, whether they show up to offer a remembrance of Mary Jo Kopechne when you announce Ted Kennedy's death.

I'm thinking it'll be nothing but crickets and excuses.

Ain't it interesting who really dances on graves.

Yeah. With their beloved patriarch Ted Kennedy on the short timer's list, one would think they would have more consideration for mortality.

Well said... and speaks much to your values ambitions.

And the man ABC News now describes as a "conservative icon" (8/22/01) in 1993 sang "Dixie" in an elevator to Carol Moseley-Braun, the first African-American woman elected to the Senate, bragging, "I'm going to make her cry. I'm going to sing Dixie until she cries." (Chicago Sun-Times, 8/5/93)

That was 1993, people. The man was unrepentant slime, and both Congress and humanity are better off without him.

you always hate to see anyone die.

Au contraire!

Helms, who was first elected in 1972, was the longest serving Senator in North Carolina history. Raleigh's WTVD writes- In North Carolina Helms was a polarizing figure, and he freely......