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		<title>By: BlogRunner: James Webb Capitol Gun Update</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlogRunner: James Webb Capitol Gun Update</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 01:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Sorry pal but I do in fact know where ALL my guns are at ALL the time. I have never gone to grab one of them and it wasn&#039;t there. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Of course you do. And of course the gun is exactly where you think it is until you find out that it is not there.

It happens all the time. Gun nuts always think they are perfect and can never make a mistake. But hubris itself is a cause of many  mistakes. But gun nuts never see the truth of this until it is too late and someone is hurt or killed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Sorry pal but I do in fact know where ALL my guns are at ALL the time. I have never gone to grab one of them and it wasn't there. </p></blockquote>
<p>Of course you do. And of course the gun is exactly where you think it is until you find out that it is not there.</p>
<p>It happens all the time. Gun nuts always think they are perfect and can never make a mistake. But hubris itself is a cause of many  mistakes. But gun nuts never see the truth of this until it is too late and someone is hurt or killed.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/jim_webb_finally_claims_gun_makes_up_with_bush/comment-page-1/#comment-134148</link>
		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;lol! You liberals going on like Bush was the rude one! Webb is an SOB, like most liberals.&lt;/em&gt;

You&#039;re a liberal troll, right?  Because a real conservative wouldn&#039;t write something so obviously self-refuting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>lol! You liberals going on like Bush was the rude one! Webb is an SOB, like most liberals.</em></p>
<p>You're a liberal troll, right?  Because a real conservative wouldn't write something so obviously self-refuting.</p>
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		<title>By: markm</title>
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		<dc:creator>markm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 11:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sure you do. You know where your gun is until you find out it is not where you thought it was.

What you are is 100% foolish ALL of the time. &quot;

Sorry pal but I do in fact know where ALL my guns are at ALL the time. I have never gone to grab one of them and it wasn&#039;t there. 

To &quot;claim&quot; Webb needs it for protection in DC and not know where it is or who has it or why someone other than Webb had it when they were not supposed to is plain irresponsible and dangerous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Sure you do. You know where your gun is until you find out it is not where you thought it was.</p>
<p>What you are is 100% foolish ALL of the time. "</p>
<p>Sorry pal but I do in fact know where ALL my guns are at ALL the time. I have never gone to grab one of them and it wasn't there. </p>
<p>To "claim" Webb needs it for protection in DC and not know where it is or who has it or why someone other than Webb had it when they were not supposed to is plain irresponsible and dangerous.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 03:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol!  You liberals going on like Bush was the rude one!  Webb is an SOB, like most liberals.  A rude SOB.  

Funny thing is, he voted recently for war funding!  What a hypocrite!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol!  You liberals going on like Bush was the rude one!  Webb is an SOB, like most liberals.  A rude SOB.  </p>
<p>Funny thing is, he voted recently for war funding!  What a hypocrite!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 22:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;My guess is that Bush just wasn&#039;t expecting to have a polite query turned into a political attack.&lt;/em&gt;

But that&#039;s the thing -- it *wasn&#039;t* a political attack.  He wanted to see his boy &amp; the rest of the troops come home.  He didn&#039;t say &quot;now&quot; or &quot;this year.&quot;

Again, for the statement to be construed as an &quot;attack,&quot; one would have to suppose that Bush was &lt;i&gt;against the troops&#039; ever returning home&lt;/i&gt;.  Which, god knows, he&#039;s accomplished for 3,000 of them -- but I didn&#039;t think he was going for 100% on that.

Imagine how easily FDR would&#039;ve laughed off Webb&#039;s response.  &quot;Me too&quot; is, like, &lt;i&gt;obvious&lt;/i&gt;.  To anyone but Bush, that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>My guess is that Bush just wasn't expecting to have a polite query turned into a political attack.</em></p>
<p>But that's the thing -- it *wasn't* a political attack.  He wanted to see his boy &amp; the rest of the troops come home.  He didn't say "now" or "this year."</p>
<p>Again, for the statement to be construed as an "attack," one would have to suppose that Bush was <i>against the troops' ever returning home</i>.  Which, god knows, he's accomplished for 3,000 of them -- but I didn't think he was going for 100% on that.</p>
<p>Imagine how easily FDR would've laughed off Webb's response.  "Me too" is, like, <i>obvious</i>.  To anyone but Bush, that is.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 21:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Yah, that&#039;s a hard one to defend, JJ -- Webb spun the personal into the political, but Bush was the one who took it to the point of being rude.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

My guess is that Bush just wasn&#039;t expecting to have a polite query turned into a political attack.  That&#039;s generally not how those things are handled, especially when one is a guest of the president.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Yah, that's a hard one to defend, JJ -- Webb spun the personal into the political, but Bush was the one who took it to the point of being rude.</p></blockquote>
<p>My guess is that Bush just wasn't expecting to have a polite query turned into a political attack.  That's generally not how those things are handled, especially when one is a guest of the president.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yah, that&#039;s a hard one to defend, JJ -- Webb spun the personal into the political, but Bush was the one who took it to the point of being rude.

I mean, what would&#039;ve been so hard about Bush&#039;s replying, &quot;Me too&quot;?  Like he *doesn&#039;t* want to get our troops out of Iraq, someday or other?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yah, that's a hard one to defend, JJ -- Webb spun the personal into the political, but Bush was the one who took it to the point of being rude.</p>
<p>I mean, what would've been so hard about Bush's replying, "Me too"?  Like he *doesn't* want to get our troops out of Iraq, someday or other?</p>
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		<title>By: Ugh</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/jim_webb_finally_claims_gun_makes_up_with_bush/comment-page-1/#comment-134018</link>
		<dc:creator>Ugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Either as the president being too dumb to take the hint or deliberately trying to provoke Webb (mostly the latter as its been reported Bush was warned that Webb was sensitive about the subject and that he shouldn&#039;t be asked about it).  

Have you ever heard &quot;That&#039;s not what I asked you&quot; said in some sort of thoughtful way?  Perhaps you read the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/29/AR2006112901267.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;George Will&lt;/a&gt; version that conveniently left that part out - despite reporting in that same newspaper the day &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/28/AR2006112801582.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;before.&lt;/a&gt;

If Bush had said something along the lines of &quot;I understand your position, I hope your boy is doing alright&quot; and left it at that, then I might characterize it as you did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Either as the president being too dumb to take the hint or deliberately trying to provoke Webb (mostly the latter as its been reported Bush was warned that Webb was sensitive about the subject and that he shouldn't be asked about it).  </p>
<p>Have you ever heard "That's not what I asked you" said in some sort of thoughtful way?  Perhaps you read the <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/29/AR2006112901267.html" rel="nofollow">George Will</a> version that conveniently left that part out - despite reporting in that same newspaper the day <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/28/AR2006112801582.html" rel="nofollow">before.</a></p>
<p>If Bush had said something along the lines of "I understand your position, I hope your boy is doing alright" and left it at that, then I might characterize it as you did.</p>
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		<title>By: M1EK</title>
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		<dc:creator>M1EK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James,

I&#039;d characterize it as Webb being honest, and direct; and Bush being a jackass. If your blinders weren&#039;t on so tight, I think you&#039;d agree as well. Here&#039;s the key point at which it went into rudeness:

&quot;That&#039;s not what I asked you,&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James,</p>
<p>I'd characterize it as Webb being honest, and direct; and Bush being a jackass. If your blinders weren't on so tight, I think you'd agree as well. Here's the key point at which it went into rudeness:</p>
<p>"That's not what I asked you,"</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/jim_webb_finally_claims_gun_makes_up_with_bush/comment-page-1/#comment-134007</link>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Well, that&#039;s a curious way of looking at that exchange&lt;/blockquote&gt;

How would you characterize it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Well, that's a curious way of looking at that exchange</p></blockquote>
<p>How would you characterize it?</p>
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		<title>By: ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Well, I am a gun nut, I am not irrational but I ALWAYS know where my weapons are at 100% of the time.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sure you do. You know where your gun is until you find out it is not where you thought it was. 

What you are is 100% foolish ALL of the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Well, I am a gun nut, I am not irrational but I ALWAYS know where my weapons are at 100% of the time.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sure you do. You know where your gun is until you find out it is not where you thought it was. </p>
<p>What you are is 100% foolish ALL of the time.</p>
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		<title>By: markm</title>
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		<dc:creator>markm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I am a gun nut, I am not irrational but I ALWAYS know where my weapons are at 100% of the time. Webb is dangerous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I am a gun nut, I am not irrational but I ALWAYS know where my weapons are at 100% of the time. Webb is dangerous.</p>
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		<title>By: spacemonkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>spacemonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Webb should run for President.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Webb should run for President.</p>
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		<title>By: Ugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m not quite sure what to make of Bush’s inviting Webb back after the rude response he received to a thoughtful inquiry to a father about a son serving in harm’s way.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Well, that&#039;s a curious way of looking at that exchange:

&quot;How&#039;s your boy?&quot; Bush asked, referring to Webb&#039;s son, a Marine serving in Iraq.

&quot;I&#039;d like to get them out of Iraq, Mr. President,&quot; Webb responded, echoing a campaign theme.

&quot;That&#039;s not what I asked you,&quot; Bush said. &quot;How&#039;s your boy?&quot;

&quot;That&#039;s between me and my boy, Mr. President,&quot; Webb said coldly, ending the conversation on the State Floor of the East Wing of the White House.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I&rsquo;m not quite sure what to make of Bush&rsquo;s inviting Webb back after the rude response he received to a thoughtful inquiry to a father about a son serving in harm&rsquo;s way.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, that's a curious way of looking at that exchange:</p>
<p>"How's your boy?" Bush asked, referring to Webb's son, a Marine serving in Iraq.</p>
<p>"I'd like to get them out of Iraq, Mr. President," Webb responded, echoing a campaign theme.</p>
<p>"That's not what I asked you," Bush said. "How's your boy?"</p>
<p>"That's between me and my boy, Mr. President," Webb said coldly, ending the conversation on the State Floor of the East Wing of the White House.</p>
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