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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/jindal_flubs_debut/comment-page-1/#comment-983949</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 05:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But not hard at all to motivate dumb people without any.&lt;/blockquote&gt;But even very smart people need a to be motivated to action.  There are lots of facts out there, people are very selective as to which ones cause them to take action.  Jindals speech, from what I have seen so far, gave no cause for action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But not hard at all to motivate dumb people without any.</p></blockquote>
<p>But even very smart people need a to be motivated to action.  There are lots of facts out there, people are very selective as to which ones cause them to take action.  Jindals speech, from what I have seen so far, gave no cause for action.</p>
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		<title>By: G.A.Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.A.Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 04:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It&#039;s very hard to motivate people with content alone.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

But not hard at all to motivate dumb people without any.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It's very hard to motivate people with content alone.</p></blockquote>
<p>But not hard at all to motivate dumb people without any.</p>
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		<title>By: tom p</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 00:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;For those who are confused about the whole controversy, my suggestion is to ride the rails in Europe, and compare them to those in the United States, and then on to those of Mexico and other selected South American countries. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
I will say this about Mexico, our paul, one can get just about any where down there via bus. It isn&#039;t always so pleasant, but it can be done.

Just try to get to Spotted Horse WY some time guys... it can&#039;t be done w/o a vehicle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>For those who are confused about the whole controversy, my suggestion is to ride the rails in Europe, and compare them to those in the United States, and then on to those of Mexico and other selected South American countries. </p></blockquote>
<p>I will say this about Mexico, our paul, one can get just about any where down there via bus. It isn't always so pleasant, but it can be done.</p>
<p>Just try to get to Spotted Horse WY some time guys... it can't be done w/o a vehicle.</p>
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		<title>By: Our Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Our Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 00:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good grief, I must have taken a bite out of correspondent &lt;strong&gt;For Paul&lt;/strong&gt; ( February 25, 2009 &#124; 05:13 pm ) nose for he truly seems out of sort, and he is unable to comprehend simple sentences. To wit: &lt;blockquote&gt;The big lie, once again, about a high-speed rail between Las Vegas and Disneyland. The Federal Railroad Administration has designated corridors for high-speed rail. In neither the Stimulus Bill, or in the designated corridors do the Vegas to Disneyland corridor exist.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Now then,  I presented evidence, including a map, of where the Federal Railroad Administration recommends high-speed rail. The Vegas Disneyland line is not mentioned. Nor is there any mention of this high-speed line between the two cities in the in the Stimulus bill. Why then are the Republican luminaries, such as Minority Leader &lt;a href=&quot;http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009/02/boehner_slams_mythical_vegas_hsr_project_ignores_ohio_rail_opportunity.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;John Boehner&lt;/a&gt; (R-OH), and Bobby Jindal, beating the drum against a non-existing program? Are these guys miss-informed, and just simply ignorant, or are they lying to the American public for political capital?

By the way, the two pdf files that &lt;strong&gt;For Paul&lt;/strong&gt; presented are irrelevant to the discussion. But then, that is what we in the The Bronx recognize as the old shell game.

For those who are confused about the whole controversy, my suggestion is to ride the rails in Europe, and compare them to those in the United States, and then on to those of Mexico and other selected South American countries. You will not need bananas on Euro-Rail.

PS: Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH), for those of you who may not remember, made &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAC2xeT2yOg&amp;eurl=http://weblog.sinteur.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;his bones in the GOP&lt;/a&gt; by distributing checks from the Tobacco Industry on the floor of the House of Representatives</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good grief, I must have taken a bite out of correspondent <strong>For Paul</strong> ( February 25, 2009 | 05:13 pm ) nose for he truly seems out of sort, and he is unable to comprehend simple sentences. To wit:<br />
<blockquote>The big lie, once again, about a high-speed rail between Las Vegas and Disneyland. The Federal Railroad Administration has designated corridors for high-speed rail. In neither the Stimulus Bill, or in the designated corridors do the Vegas to Disneyland corridor exist.</p></blockquote>
<p>Now then,  I presented evidence, including a map, of where the Federal Railroad Administration recommends high-speed rail. The Vegas Disneyland line is not mentioned. Nor is there any mention of this high-speed line between the two cities in the in the Stimulus bill. Why then are the Republican luminaries, such as Minority Leader <a href="http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009/02/boehner_slams_mythical_vegas_hsr_project_ignores_ohio_rail_opportunity.php" rel="nofollow">John Boehner</a> (R-OH), and Bobby Jindal, beating the drum against a non-existing program? Are these guys miss-informed, and just simply ignorant, or are they lying to the American public for political capital?</p>
<p>By the way, the two pdf files that <strong>For Paul</strong> presented are irrelevant to the discussion. But then, that is what we in the The Bronx recognize as the old shell game.</p>
<p>For those who are confused about the whole controversy, my suggestion is to ride the rails in Europe, and compare them to those in the United States, and then on to those of Mexico and other selected South American countries. You will not need bananas on Euro-Rail.</p>
<p>PS: Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH), for those of you who may not remember, made <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAC2xeT2yOg&amp;eurl=http://weblog.sinteur.com/" rel="nofollow">his bones in the GOP</a> by distributing checks from the Tobacco Industry on the floor of the House of Representatives</p>
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		<title>By: For Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>For Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 22:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;..in neither the designated corridors do the Vegas to Disneyland corridor exist.&quot;

Las Vegas-Anaheim Maglev Project

&quot;Intensive pre-construction planning for this project was initiated in 1999 by a public/private partnership formed for the purpose of building a 269.1 mile Maglev system between Las Vegas, Nevada and Anaheim, California...The termini at Las Vegas and Anaheim represent two of the most active tourist  destinations in the United States (gaming casinos and entertainment attractions in Las Vegas, and Disneyland in Anaheim)&quot;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fra.dot.gov/downloads/RRdev/maglev-sep05.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;

Pg. 57
Care to keep playing Mr. Hawking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"..in neither the designated corridors do the Vegas to Disneyland corridor exist."</p>
<p>Las Vegas-Anaheim Maglev Project</p>
<p>"Intensive pre-construction planning for this project was initiated in 1999 by a public/private partnership formed for the purpose of building a 269.1 mile Maglev system between Las Vegas, Nevada and Anaheim, California...The termini at Las Vegas and Anaheim represent two of the most active tourist  destinations in the United States (gaming casinos and entertainment attractions in Las Vegas, and Disneyland in Anaheim)"</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fra.dot.gov/downloads/RRdev/maglev-sep05.pdf" rel="nofollow"></p>
<p>Pg. 57<br />
Care to keep playing Mr. Hawking?</a></p>
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		<title>By: Republican Disasters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Republican Disasters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 20:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, NOT Janice Gore... I ment &quot;Posted by Our Paul&quot;.

And of course, a the Republican disdain for all things science, in this case earth science, frivolously labeled as for something called &quot;volcano monitoring.&quot;

It&#039;s amazing to me how the &quot;liberal MSM&quot; does not bother to ask him about his goal that creationism be taught in science class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, NOT Janice Gore... I ment "Posted by Our Paul".</p>
<p>And of course, a the Republican disdain for all things science, in this case earth science, frivolously labeled as for something called "volcano monitoring."</p>
<p>It's amazing to me how the "liberal MSM" does not bother to ask him about his goal that creationism be taught in science class.</p>
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		<title>By: Republican Disasters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Republican Disasters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Janis Gore said... exactly correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Janis Gore said... exactly correct.</p>
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		<title>By: Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Bobby Jindal Strikes Out</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Bobby Jindal Strikes Out</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] can follow the President of the United States and come off looking small and petty. Alex Massie, James Joyner, and Bruce McQuain all make similar [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] can follow the President of the United States and come off looking small and petty. Alex Massie, James Joyner, and Bruce McQuain all make similar [...]</p>
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		<title>By: America Invented Everything</title>
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		<dc:creator>America Invented Everything</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we&#8217;re making pop culture references (Bobby Jindal as Kenneth Purcell), I&#8217;m reminded of Star Trek&#8217;s Pavel Checkov (Walter Koenig), who routinely made such [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] we&#8217;re making pop culture references (Bobby Jindal as Kenneth Purcell), I&#8217;m reminded of Star Trek&#8217;s Pavel Checkov (Walter Koenig), who routinely made such [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Our Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/jindal_flubs_debut/comment-page-1/#comment-983641</link>
		<dc:creator>Our Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a word, it was &lt;a href=&quot;http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/02/full-text-of-go.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Godawfull&lt;/a&gt;. Here is a snip we can contemplate, delivered with all the rhetorical flourish of somebody zonked out on valium reading an obituary: &lt;blockquote&gt;While some of the projects in the bill make sense, their legislation is larded with wasteful spending. It includes $300 million to buy new cars for the government, $8 billion for high-speed rail projects, such as a &quot;magnetic levitation&quot; line from Las Vegas to Disneyland, and $140 million for something called &quot;volcano monitoring.&quot; Instead of monitoring volcanoes, what Congress should be monitoring is the eruption of spending in Washington, D.C. &lt;/blockquote&gt;And there you have the whole shooting match. A sneer at 300 million for new cars, and a failure to mention that this is targeted for hybrid and energy efficient vehicles. 

The big lie, once again, about a high-speed rail between Las Vegas and Dinsneyland. The Federal Railroad Administration has&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fra.dot.gov/us/content/203&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; designated corridors for high-speed rail.&lt;/a&gt; In neither the Stimulus Bill, or in the designated corridors do the Vegas to Disneyland corridor exist.

And of course, a the Republican disdain for all things science, in this case earth science, frivolously labeled as &lt;em&gt;for something called &quot;volcano monitoring.&quot; 
&lt;/em&gt;
Bah, humbug. The standard Republican speech, pan attempts at energy conservation, the big lie to cheer on the faithful, and who needs science, when we got God…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a word, it was <a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/02/full-text-of-go.html" rel="nofollow">Godawfull</a>. Here is a snip we can contemplate, delivered with all the rhetorical flourish of somebody zonked out on valium reading an obituary:<br />
<blockquote>While some of the projects in the bill make sense, their legislation is larded with wasteful spending. It includes $300 million to buy new cars for the government, $8 billion for high-speed rail projects, such as a "magnetic levitation" line from Las Vegas to Disneyland, and $140 million for something called "volcano monitoring." Instead of monitoring volcanoes, what Congress should be monitoring is the eruption of spending in Washington, D.C. </p></blockquote>
<p>And there you have the whole shooting match. A sneer at 300 million for new cars, and a failure to mention that this is targeted for hybrid and energy efficient vehicles. </p>
<p>The big lie, once again, about a high-speed rail between Las Vegas and Dinsneyland. The Federal Railroad Administration has<a href="http://www.fra.dot.gov/us/content/203" rel="nofollow"> designated corridors for high-speed rail.</a> In neither the Stimulus Bill, or in the designated corridors do the Vegas to Disneyland corridor exist.</p>
<p>And of course, a the Republican disdain for all things science, in this case earth science, frivolously labeled as <em>for something called "volcano monitoring."<br />
</em><br />
Bah, humbug. The standard Republican speech, pan attempts at energy conservation, the big lie to cheer on the faithful, and who needs science, when we got God…</p>
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		<title>By: Janis Gore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janis Gore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Gov. Jindal is usually like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vue6M5m-LDk&amp;eurl=http://wizbangblog.com/content/2009/02/25/whoever-kidnapped-the-real-bobby-jindal-returned-him-this-morning.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.

He typically has a rapid-fire delivery which also wouldn&#039;t have played that well in the speech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Gov. Jindal is usually like <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vue6M5m-LDk&amp;eurl=http://wizbangblog.com/content/2009/02/25/whoever-kidnapped-the-real-bobby-jindal-returned-him-this-morning.php" rel="nofollow">this</a>.</p>
<p>He typically has a rapid-fire delivery which also wouldn't have played that well in the speech.</p>
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		<title>By: Raoul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raoul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 17:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is definitely a tough place to be and it will probably not have any long term consequences, UNLESS, this is how he really is!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is definitely a tough place to be and it will probably not have any long term consequences, UNLESS, this is how he really is!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 17:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jindal also suffered from high expectations.  He is a &quot;rising star&quot; and a &quot;Rhodes Scholar&quot; as we keep hearing, so the expectation was that we should be blown away by him.  I suspect that had Orin Hatch given this exact same speech, while not being lauded, it certainly wouldn&#039;t be so strongly criticized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jindal also suffered from high expectations.  He is a "rising star" and a "Rhodes Scholar" as we keep hearing, so the expectation was that we should be blown away by him.  I suspect that had Orin Hatch given this exact same speech, while not being lauded, it certainly wouldn't be so strongly criticized.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 17:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It wasn&#039;t really that bad, but a coupe things... and remember, I used to make my living behind a mike.

I&#039;ve seen Jindal perform before, and think him usually fairly comfortable in high exposure situations. It&#039;s my view Jindal was over-coached, and thereby over-nervous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wasn't really that bad, but a coupe things... and remember, I used to make my living behind a mike.</p>
<p>I've seen Jindal perform before, and think him usually fairly comfortable in high exposure situations. It's my view Jindal was over-coached, and thereby over-nervous.</p>
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		<title>By: Dantheman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dantheman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

&quot;Heaven forbid we judge a speech on content rather than delivery.&quot;

Since the content was just a rehash of Republican talking points, which could have been made at any time in the last 30 years, there&#039;s remarkably little to say on the content.  For those who buy the Republican brand, they would agree with the content.  For those who do not, and the last two elections show that increasing numbers of Americans do not, it gave no reason to support the Republicans.

On the other hand, since Jindal is considered a rising star of the Republican party, his ability to give a prime time speech is at least somewhat important and worth commenting on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>"Heaven forbid we judge a speech on content rather than delivery."</p>
<p>Since the content was just a rehash of Republican talking points, which could have been made at any time in the last 30 years, there's remarkably little to say on the content.  For those who buy the Republican brand, they would agree with the content.  For those who do not, and the last two elections show that increasing numbers of Americans do not, it gave no reason to support the Republicans.</p>
<p>On the other hand, since Jindal is considered a rising star of the Republican party, his ability to give a prime time speech is at least somewhat important and worth commenting on.</p>
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