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	<title>Comments on: Joe Wilson Most to Blame for Ending Valerie Plame&#8217;s Career</title>
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		<title>By: Tano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 22:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find this WaPo editoral entirely unconvincing and purposely igmoring some obvious facts.

First of all, I find it absurd to claim that Wilson was &quot;asking for it&quot; in terms of revealing his wife&#039;s identity. Sending an experienced diplomat with much area expertise on such a mission is not at all unusal. It has happened many times, without some sort of a justification built in, that the media and the administration is thereby free to burrow into the CIA and publicly expose those who were involved in sending the diplomat.

And of course, there is the obvious question of how it is that Armitage came to know about Plame&#039;s role and her identity. He passed it along as gossip - well, he must have recieved it as gossip from the WH. And that, of course, gets to the original charge. That the WH was orchestrating a campaign to spread the word about Plame. Armitage may have been the first whose words found their way into the press, but he was not the only one. We know that Rove and Libby were doing the same.

And that Libby perjured himeself when testifying about his role.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find this WaPo editoral entirely unconvincing and purposely igmoring some obvious facts.</p>
<p>First of all, I find it absurd to claim that Wilson was "asking for it" in terms of revealing his wife's identity. Sending an experienced diplomat with much area expertise on such a mission is not at all unusal. It has happened many times, without some sort of a justification built in, that the media and the administration is thereby free to burrow into the CIA and publicly expose those who were involved in sending the diplomat.</p>
<p>And of course, there is the obvious question of how it is that Armitage came to know about Plame's role and her identity. He passed it along as gossip - well, he must have recieved it as gossip from the WH. And that, of course, gets to the original charge. That the WH was orchestrating a campaign to spread the word about Plame. Armitage may have been the first whose words found their way into the press, but he was not the only one. We know that Rove and Libby were doing the same.</p>
<p>And that Libby perjured himeself when testifying about his role.</p>
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		<title>By: A Blog For All</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Blog For All</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;All Over But the Whining...&lt;/strong&gt;

There was no Fitzmas. There will be no Fitzmas. There&#039;s no chance that there will be a Fitzmas. If that means I&#039;m the Grinch, so be it....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>All Over But the Whining...</strong></p>
<p>There was no Fitzmas. There will be no Fitzmas. There's no chance that there will be a Fitzmas. If that means I'm the Grinch, so be it....</p>
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		<title>By: The Political Pit Bull</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Political Pit Bull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;A Musical Message To All The Libs Disappointed By Fitzmas...&lt;/strong&gt;

It&#039;s been a tough day for the Fitzmas crowd. WaPo called it for the other side. And even though some are still desperately holding on, it&#039;s over. But since I&#039;m such a bleeding heart, here&#039;s a little ditty that&#039;ll hopefully......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>A Musical Message To All The Libs Disappointed By Fitzmas...</strong></p>
<p>It's been a tough day for the Fitzmas crowd. WaPo called it for the other side. And even though some are still desperately holding on, it's over. But since I'm such a bleeding heart, here's a little ditty that'll hopefully......</p>
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		<title>By: Herb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Com on all you &quot;Bush Haters&quot;. Let&#039;s hear your &quot;APOLOGY&quot; for the ranting and raving you made here on OTB. You guys blamed Chaney, Rove, Bush, along with anyone who are in the &quot;Hate Bush Circle&quot;, that would listen to your &quot;Knowledge&quot; that the Bush Administration want to slam joe wilson.

Let&#039;s hear it NOW

APOLOGIZE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Com on all you "Bush Haters". Let's hear your "APOLOGY" for the ranting and raving you made here on OTB. You guys blamed Chaney, Rove, Bush, along with anyone who are in the "Hate Bush Circle", that would listen to your "Knowledge" that the Bush Administration want to slam joe wilson.</p>
<p>Let's hear it NOW</p>
<p>APOLOGIZE</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Denton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Denton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 20:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So he disregards the reporting in his own paper to repeat a previously debunked smear?  

Fred Haitt has been strongly pro-war and pro-Bush and consistently wrong for years in that so-called-liberal bastion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So he disregards the reporting in his own paper to repeat a previously debunked smear?  </p>
<p>Fred Haitt has been strongly pro-war and pro-Bush and consistently wrong for years in that so-called-liberal bastion.</p>
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		<title>By: Center for Sanity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Center for Sanity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 19:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Media - Fast and Loose with the Facts...&lt;/strong&gt;

It&#039;s funny, all the stories that the media seems to exaggerate, especially when it comes to either A) Race or B) President Bush.

But when it finally comes down to getting to the truth of the matter, you normally find things are rarely what the med....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Media - Fast and Loose with the Facts...</strong></p>
<p>It's funny, all the stories that the media seems to exaggerate, especially when it comes to either A) Race or B) President Bush.</p>
<p>But when it finally comes down to getting to the truth of the matter, you normally find things are rarely what the med....</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 18:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the WaPo&#039;s board would benefit from a brief lecture on &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proximate_cause&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;proximate cause&lt;/a&gt;&quot; and &quot;but-for causation.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the WaPo's board would benefit from a brief lecture on "<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proximate_cause" rel="nofollow">proximate cause</a>" and "but-for causation."</p>
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		<title>By: madmatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>madmatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 18:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No there was not an attempt to buy yellowcake, just the &quot;liberal&quot; media providing cover to lying rethugs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No there was not an attempt to buy yellowcake, just the "liberal" media providing cover to lying rethugs!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 18:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Mr. Wilson chose to go public with an explosive charge, claiming — falsely, as it turned out — that he had debunked reports of Iraqi uranium-shopping in Niger&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wait, is the Post suggesting that Iraq really was trying to purchase uranium from Niger?  So far all I have heard was that it was definitely debunked, has this information changed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Mr. Wilson chose to go public with an explosive charge, claiming — falsely, as it turned out — that he had debunked reports of Iraqi uranium-shopping in Niger</p></blockquote>
<p>Wait, is the Post suggesting that Iraq really was trying to purchase uranium from Niger?  So far all I have heard was that it was definitely debunked, has this information changed?</p>
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		<title>By: yetanotherjohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>yetanotherjohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 17:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The instinct to stonewall and treat the press as an adjunct to the opposition party is perhaps the most unfortunate aspect of this administration.

Any serious review of the facts would see that treating the press as an adjunct to the opposition party is just rational behavior. Or perhaps you are still waiting for Rather to break the CBS story that the TANG memos were faked.

Can you run it by me again on how Cheney, Rove, Libby and company could have ended the mess sooner? It was the fourth horse man of the GOP apocalypse that was the original source, not any of those you list. It was Powell who was told shortly after the Novak article but didn&#039;t tell those listed as a tactic in bureaucratic fighting. It was Fitzgerald who knew this in the first week of investigation and didn&#039;t wrap up the investigation &quot;mess much sooner&quot;.

And don&#039;t forget that Libby would be saving himself a lot of time and trouble if he had just pleaded the fifth on every question asked. Instead he tried to cooperate with the investigation the Fitzgerald continued and is now on trial for a faulty memory (or at least that is his defense).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The instinct to stonewall and treat the press as an adjunct to the opposition party is perhaps the most unfortunate aspect of this administration.</p>
<p>Any serious review of the facts would see that treating the press as an adjunct to the opposition party is just rational behavior. Or perhaps you are still waiting for Rather to break the CBS story that the TANG memos were faked.</p>
<p>Can you run it by me again on how Cheney, Rove, Libby and company could have ended the mess sooner? It was the fourth horse man of the GOP apocalypse that was the original source, not any of those you list. It was Powell who was told shortly after the Novak article but didn't tell those listed as a tactic in bureaucratic fighting. It was Fitzgerald who knew this in the first week of investigation and didn't wrap up the investigation "mess much sooner".</p>
<p>And don't forget that Libby would be saving himself a lot of time and trouble if he had just pleaded the fifth on every question asked. Instead he tried to cooperate with the investigation the Fitzgerald continued and is now on trial for a faulty memory (or at least that is his defense).</p>
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		<title>By: Flopping Aces &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The End Is In Sight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The End Is In Sight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 16:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Outside The Beltway [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Real Ugly American.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Joe Wilson responsible for ending his wife&#8217;s CIA career</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Real Ugly American.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Joe Wilson responsible for ending his wife&#8217;s CIA career</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 16:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It is also unfortunate that so many on the left and the in the MSM ignored so many of us in the center and on the right who have been saying the same thing for over 2 years. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It is also unfortunate that so many on the left and the in the MSM ignored so many of us in the center and on the right who have been saying the same thing for over 2 years. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fersboo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fersboo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 15:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Madmatt,

Colin Powell told him to be quiet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Madmatt,</p>
<p>Colin Powell told him to be quiet.</p>
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		<title>By: madmatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>madmatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 15:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So has armitage been in a cave with bin ladin for the last several years?  Why didn&#039;t he say anything earlier...or is it like the death squads he was unaware of back under bush 1?  The man is a notorious heat taker for rethug scum...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So has armitage been in a cave with bin ladin for the last several years?  Why didn't he say anything earlier...or is it like the death squads he was unaware of back under bush 1?  The man is a notorious heat taker for rethug scum...</p>
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		<title>By: Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 14:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Ex-State Dept. Official Revealed Plame...&lt;/strong&gt;

Former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage told columnist Robert Novak the identity of underc...</description>
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