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		<title>By: He Must Be Short Of Campaign Cash&#8230;. &#171; QC Examiner</title>
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		<dc:creator>He Must Be Short Of Campaign Cash&#8230;. &#171; QC Examiner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 17:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Faithful to open their wallets for him. It came out recently that Edwards had made millions from Katrina victim abusing subprime lenders when he invested in the Fortress Investment Group hedge [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Faithful to open their wallets for him. It came out recently that Edwards had made millions from Katrina victim abusing subprime lenders when he invested in the Fortress Investment Group hedge [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ABC News Demonstrates Journalistic Negligence While Misquoting Ann Coulter, Again &#187; Constitutionally Right</title>
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		<dc:creator>ABC News Demonstrates Journalistic Negligence While Misquoting Ann Coulter, Again &#187; Constitutionally Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 04:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] So it appears that John Edwards is making millions off of Katrina victims. I think that might have been a relevant story considering Edwards himself pledges to clean up New Orleans. Yet, the reptilian Edwards said that when he first joined Fortress, “I made clear that I didn’t want to have anything I was investing in to be antilabor or involved in predatory lending practices.” But he added that he didn’t fully understand the firm’s complex operations, saying: “They’re diverse. They’re very diverse.” [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] So it appears that John Edwards is making millions off of Katrina victims. I think that might have been a relevant story considering Edwards himself pledges to clean up New Orleans. Yet, the reptilian Edwards said that when he first joined Fortress, “I made clear that I didn&rsquo;t want to have anything I was investing in to be antilabor or involved in predatory lending practices.” But he added that he didn&rsquo;t fully understand the firm&rsquo;s complex operations, saying: “They&rsquo;re diverse. They&rsquo;re very diverse.” [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 02:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice if you to say, but I think you&#039;re missing a major portion of this.  

In my view, the stated reasons behind those actions, cannot be separated from the actions themselves... anymore than they can be separated from their consequences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice if you to say, but I think you're missing a major portion of this.  </p>
<p>In my view, the stated reasons behind those actions, cannot be separated from the actions themselves... anymore than they can be separated from their consequences.</p>
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		<title>By: Eneils Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eneils Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 00:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bithead,

You bring up some interesting points here, perhaps the most interesting one is what part the government had in forcing institutions to finance individuals of marginal credit status and approving loans for people who could not afford the houses they applied to get financed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bithead,</p>
<p>You bring up some interesting points here, perhaps the most interesting one is what part the government had in forcing institutions to finance individuals of marginal credit status and approving loans for people who could not afford the houses they applied to get financed.</p>
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		<title>By: Oh, what a tangled web Edwards weaves &#124; BitsBlog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oh, what a tangled web Edwards weaves &#124; BitsBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 22:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Others blogging: Michelle Malkin,&#160; OTB [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Edwards is pleased to call such organizations As the one he has $16 million invested in,  “predatory lenders”. let’s examine that business model, for just a moment.

Wasn’t the government specifically responsible for forcing those organizations to be performing a certain level, a certain percentage, of high risk loans particularly to minorities? Imagine the charges of racism flying around, were the banks to turn down such loans.

Further, let&#039;s face facts:

It’s not the bank’s faults that the government insisted on playing arbiter on what constitutes “equal housing” lending.

It’s not the bank’s faults that as a direct result that said borrowers following a major disaster were unable to pay the loans they signed for.

It’s not the bank’s fault that Katrina came along.  It’s not the bank’s fault that the people who were asking for loans lived in an area that is prone to storm damage.

And finally, it’s not the bank’s fault the John Edwards is hip deep in such businesses, and has piles of cash invested in making such loans, essentially profiteering from the governmental requirements to make such loans, in the first place.

And the question of honesty arises; He&#039;s got 16 million bucks invested in this company that he charges with &quot;Predatory lending practices.&quot;  I don&#039;t know about you, but if I had $16 million invested in a company, I think I might remember that.  Is Edwards so rich that that $16 million worth of investments simply slipped his mind?  

Sorry, no sale.  Half of John Edwards time, of late, is spent making statements he&#039;s got no business making, and the other half is spent backtracking from them while pointing his finger of blame elsewhere.  The only logical conclusion to draw from all of this is Edwards is a snake in the grass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Edwards is pleased to call such organizations As the one he has $16 million invested in,  “predatory lenders”. let&rsquo;s examine that business model, for just a moment.</p>
<p>Wasn&rsquo;t the government specifically responsible for forcing those organizations to be performing a certain level, a certain percentage, of high risk loans particularly to minorities? Imagine the charges of racism flying around, were the banks to turn down such loans.</p>
<p>Further, let's face facts:</p>
<p>It&rsquo;s not the bank&rsquo;s faults that the government insisted on playing arbiter on what constitutes “equal housing” lending.</p>
<p>It&rsquo;s not the bank&rsquo;s faults that as a direct result that said borrowers following a major disaster were unable to pay the loans they signed for.</p>
<p>It&rsquo;s not the bank&rsquo;s fault that Katrina came along.  It&rsquo;s not the bank&rsquo;s fault that the people who were asking for loans lived in an area that is prone to storm damage.</p>
<p>And finally, it&rsquo;s not the bank&rsquo;s fault the John Edwards is hip deep in such businesses, and has piles of cash invested in making such loans, essentially profiteering from the governmental requirements to make such loans, in the first place.</p>
<p>And the question of honesty arises; He's got 16 million bucks invested in this company that he charges with "Predatory lending practices."  I don't know about you, but if I had $16 million invested in a company, I think I might remember that.  Is Edwards so rich that that $16 million worth of investments simply slipped his mind?  </p>
<p>Sorry, no sale.  Half of John Edwards time, of late, is spent making statements he's got no business making, and the other half is spent backtracking from them while pointing his finger of blame elsewhere.  The only logical conclusion to draw from all of this is Edwards is a snake in the grass.</p>
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		<title>By: Eneils Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eneils Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 17:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder in which of the &quot;two America&#039;s&quot; he will plant himself? The America where he makes money or the America that he panders to every day.

I lay my bets on the America where he makes money.

&quot;Former Sen. John Edwards has exploited the middle of his famous three H’s.&quot; Let us make that the four &quot;H&#039;s&quot; with the addition of Hubris.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder in which of the "two America's" he will plant himself? The America where he makes money or the America that he panders to every day.</p>
<p>I lay my bets on the America where he makes money.</p>
<p>"Former Sen. John Edwards has exploited the middle of his famous three H&rsquo;s." Let us make that the four "H's" with the addition of Hubris.</p>
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		<title>By: C.Wagener</title>
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		<dc:creator>C.Wagener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you loan someone money and they don&#039;t pay you you&#039;re a villain?  What about the guy that isn&#039;t paying?  A victim, I suppose.

Many of these sub-prime loans were almost no money down.  That would provide a benefit to people who want to buy a house, but don&#039;t have the 20%.  The majority of the people who continue to pay and stay in their homes are better off, but won&#039;t be interviewed by the media.

Hillary Clinton wants to remove prepayment penalties.  That increases the risk to the lender and will increase the cost of loans to all borrowers.  You can always count on politicians to make a bad situation worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you loan someone money and they don't pay you you're a villain?  What about the guy that isn't paying?  A victim, I suppose.</p>
<p>Many of these sub-prime loans were almost no money down.  That would provide a benefit to people who want to buy a house, but don't have the 20%.  The majority of the people who continue to pay and stay in their homes are better off, but won't be interviewed by the media.</p>
<p>Hillary Clinton wants to remove prepayment penalties.  That increases the risk to the lender and will increase the cost of loans to all borrowers.  You can always count on politicians to make a bad situation worse.</p>
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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is only an issue if you think John Edwards populism is thoughtful, consistent, coherent, and sincere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is only an issue if you think John Edwards populism is thoughtful, consistent, coherent, and sincere.</p>
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		<title>By: jpe</title>
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		<dc:creator>jpe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not one that defends Edwards regularly, and I hope this doesn&#039;t become a habit, but as it stands I&#039;m inclined to call this story BS.  Have you ever looked at the schedule of investments for a fund of funds?  Fuggedaboutit.  There&#039;s not a chance in the world you&#039;d have any stinking idea what they do, and hedge funds aren&#039;t the types to just volunteer what their super-duper secret operations are all about.

So if the subprime component of Fortress&#039;s activity wasn&#039;t big enough to make it to the summary pie chart, there&#039;s no reason to think Edwards knew anything at all about it.

And seriously: 34 homes? For a hedge fund?  That&#039;s gotta be around 1/10 of 1% of their holdings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm not one that defends Edwards regularly, and I hope this doesn't become a habit, but as it stands I'm inclined to call this story BS.  Have you ever looked at the schedule of investments for a fund of funds?  Fuggedaboutit.  There's not a chance in the world you'd have any stinking idea what they do, and hedge funds aren't the types to just volunteer what their super-duper secret operations are all about.</p>
<p>So if the subprime component of Fortress's activity wasn't big enough to make it to the summary pie chart, there's no reason to think Edwards knew anything at all about it.</p>
<p>And seriously: 34 homes? For a hedge fund?  That's gotta be around 1/10 of 1% of their holdings.</p>
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		<title>By: UrbanGrounds &#187; Blog Archive &#187; John Edwards Foreclosing on One Side of the Two Americas</title>
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		<dc:creator>UrbanGrounds &#187; Blog Archive &#187; John Edwards Foreclosing on One Side of the Two Americas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] James Joyner: John Edwards Accidentally Made Millions from Katrina Victim Abusing Subprime Lenders [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dave Schuler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One definition of an environmentalist is somebody who already has a cabin in the woods.

I don&#039;t think there&#039;s any hypocrisy involved in this but it does provide a nice illustration of thought patterns.  Individual action vs. group action.  Sen. Edwards isn&#039;t saying that individuals shouldn&#039;t pursue their most lucrative opportunities; he&#039;s saying that the government should foreclose the opportunities (presumably for their own good).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One definition of an environmentalist is somebody who already has a cabin in the woods.</p>
<p>I don't think there's any hypocrisy involved in this but it does provide a nice illustration of thought patterns.  Individual action vs. group action.  Sen. Edwards isn't saying that individuals shouldn't pursue their most lucrative opportunities; he's saying that the government should foreclose the opportunities (presumably for their own good).</p>
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