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	<title>Comments on: John Kerry&#8217;s Plan to Bring the Troops Home</title>
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		<title>By: Scott Reitz</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/john_kerrys_plan_to_bring_the_troops_home/comment-page-1/#comment-22882</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Reitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2004 14:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is difficult to see exactly how Sen. John Kerry &quot;plans&quot; to bring our troops home from Iraq, Especially when he states that he will &quot;Launch a massive and accelerated training effort to build Iraqi security forces&quot;. 

It is true, however, that Sen. John Kerry did indeed serve in the Vietnam War.  He served 4 months as a Lieutenant in the Costal Division. He had received three Purple Hearts. The first of theses purple hearts was caused by supposed enemy fire.  When the two enlisted men that were with him on the exercise claim that it was caused by a flying piece of shrapnel when Mr. Kerry fired a grenade on some rocks too close to shore. The medical officer treated this wound with nothing more than a Band-Aid. 

Another interesting point is that when Mr. Kerry returned from Vietnam he accused some two million plus soldiers, whom put their lives on the line, of war crimes.  Imagine how that must make our brave soldiers, whom fight for our freedom, feel to go into extremely hostile territory only to come home to the people whom are supposed to show support, accusing war crimes on our soldiers. This is to be the leader of this great nation!  If Sen. Kerry cannot support the brave men and women whom fight to keep this nation great, can we support him as president?

All information has been reviewed from www.swiftvets.com Please visit this site before you cast your vote!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is difficult to see exactly how Sen. John Kerry "plans" to bring our troops home from Iraq, Especially when he states that he will "Launch a massive and accelerated training effort to build Iraqi security forces". </p>
<p>It is true, however, that Sen. John Kerry did indeed serve in the Vietnam War.  He served 4 months as a Lieutenant in the Costal Division. He had received three Purple Hearts. The first of theses purple hearts was caused by supposed enemy fire.  When the two enlisted men that were with him on the exercise claim that it was caused by a flying piece of shrapnel when Mr. Kerry fired a grenade on some rocks too close to shore. The medical officer treated this wound with nothing more than a Band-Aid. </p>
<p>Another interesting point is that when Mr. Kerry returned from Vietnam he accused some two million plus soldiers, whom put their lives on the line, of war crimes.  Imagine how that must make our brave soldiers, whom fight for our freedom, feel to go into extremely hostile territory only to come home to the people whom are supposed to show support, accusing war crimes on our soldiers. This is to be the leader of this great nation!  If Sen. Kerry cannot support the brave men and women whom fight to keep this nation great, can we support him as president?</p>
<p>All information has been reviewed from <a href="http://www.swiftvets.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.swiftvets.com</a> Please visit this site before you cast your vote!</p>
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		<title>By: BradDad</title>
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		<dc:creator>BradDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2004 00:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kerry&#039;d better tell us about his &quot;Plan B&quot;, because his &quot;Plan A&quot; is going nowhere for the reasons discussed above.

Oh, I forgot - &quot;Plan B&quot; is to &quot;Bug Out&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kerry'd better tell us about his "Plan B", because his "Plan A" is going nowhere for the reasons discussed above.</p>
<p>Oh, I forgot - "Plan B" is to "Bug Out".</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Parker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2004 23:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually sounds like these two multimillionare Ivy-League guys are alot alike. I wonder if they learned that a Havard, or in the Skull and Crossbones Frat, or from all the mutual acquaintances they grew up with.

Iraq is a mess, and the real enemy, the terrorists that attacked our country are still in Pushtun controlled Pakistan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually sounds like these two multimillionare Ivy-League guys are alot alike. I wonder if they learned that a Havard, or in the Skull and Crossbones Frat, or from all the mutual acquaintances they grew up with.</p>
<p>Iraq is a mess, and the real enemy, the terrorists that attacked our country are still in Pushtun controlled Pakistan.</p>
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		<title>By: pennywit.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>pennywit.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2004 20:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Kerry&#039;s Iraq Plan Is All Bun and No Meat&lt;/strong&gt;
To be fair to John Kerry, it is nearly impossible to solve a complicated geopolitical problem with a rebuttal in the &quot;Today&#039;s Debate&quot; section of USA Today.  Still, I can&#039;t help being a little disappointed with his </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Kerry's Iraq Plan Is All Bun and No Meat</strong><br />
To be fair to John Kerry, it is nearly impossible to solve a complicated geopolitical problem with a rebuttal in the "Today's Debate" section of USA Today.  Still, I can't help being a little disappointed with his</p>
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		<title>By: GP</title>
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		<dc:creator>GP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2004 19:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Kerry&#039;s &quot;plan&quot; doesn&#039;t differ substantially from what the Bush administration is trying to do in Iraq.  

Kerry however is trying to exploit three important differences.  The first is based on the Democratic party line that Bush never had a plan to win the peace.  This isn&#039;t true because Bush did have plan, it was just based on a mixture of naivetÃ©, incompetence and faulty intelligence gathered from known crooks that should never have been trusted.  In that light, it&#039;s very easy for Kerry to pick up points by saying &quot;I would have done better&quot;.  Obviously we will never know if Kerry would have, but he looks good for saying it, and Bush looks bad because he cannot say it.

The second is that Bush has never shown a clear understanding of the problems in Iraq, or at least been able to clearly and concisely explain it as Kerry does.  For many voters, Kerryâs article in USA Today or at the convention was the first time they heard these steps.  Bush should have done the same months ago (he tried at the Military College, but it was a small venue and he didnât do well with it).  Now he is in the odd position of looking like he is copying Kerryâs plan (when it looks more like the other way around).  Bush&#039;s failure to do so has the added benefit of playing into the Democratic party&#039;s other line: that being Bush is too stupid to understand complex issues and thus cannot clearly explain how the troops will come home.  

The third difference is that Kerry believes he will be more successful in convincing allies (even the Germans and French) to help out more with security, training, debt forgiveness, etc.  Bush and his administration has been pretty disdainful of our allies (the name calling being the height of absurdity), so Kerry may have a valid argument here.  Diplomacy is not a morality play of black and white dimensions.  It&#039;s a careful balancing of interests.  The Bush administation knows this (just look at their dance with terrorist loving Pakistan and Saudi Arabia).  In light of their recognition of this, Bush&#039;s treatment of our allies is perplexing and gives Kerry another opening to say something that is unprovable (&quot;I would never have renamed French fries&quot; and &quot;I will call them French fries forever&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Kerry's "plan" doesn't differ substantially from what the Bush administration is trying to do in Iraq.  </p>
<p>Kerry however is trying to exploit three important differences.  The first is based on the Democratic party line that Bush never had a plan to win the peace.  This isn't true because Bush did have plan, it was just based on a mixture of naivetÃ©, incompetence and faulty intelligence gathered from known crooks that should never have been trusted.  In that light, it's very easy for Kerry to pick up points by saying "I would have done better".  Obviously we will never know if Kerry would have, but he looks good for saying it, and Bush looks bad because he cannot say it.</p>
<p>The second is that Bush has never shown a clear understanding of the problems in Iraq, or at least been able to clearly and concisely explain it as Kerry does.  For many voters, Kerryâs article in USA Today or at the convention was the first time they heard these steps.  Bush should have done the same months ago (he tried at the Military College, but it was a small venue and he didnât do well with it).  Now he is in the odd position of looking like he is copying Kerryâs plan (when it looks more like the other way around).  Bush's failure to do so has the added benefit of playing into the Democratic party's other line: that being Bush is too stupid to understand complex issues and thus cannot clearly explain how the troops will come home.  </p>
<p>The third difference is that Kerry believes he will be more successful in convincing allies (even the Germans and French) to help out more with security, training, debt forgiveness, etc.  Bush and his administration has been pretty disdainful of our allies (the name calling being the height of absurdity), so Kerry may have a valid argument here.  Diplomacy is not a morality play of black and white dimensions.  It's a careful balancing of interests.  The Bush administation knows this (just look at their dance with terrorist loving Pakistan and Saudi Arabia).  In light of their recognition of this, Bush's treatment of our allies is perplexing and gives Kerry another opening to say something that is unprovable ("I would never have renamed French fries" and "I will call them French fries forever")</p>
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		<title>By: Boyd</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/john_kerrys_plan_to_bring_the_troops_home/comment-page-1/#comment-21755</link>
		<dc:creator>Boyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2004 19:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m wondering about the part where Senator Kerry says he wants to &quot;involve our allies in the development of a new Iraqi constitution...&quot; I thought the Iraqis were supposed to develop their own, permanent constitution. He plans to remove that authority from the Iraqis and save it for the U.S. and our allies?

Sounds pretty cheeky to me. I&#039;m not sure the Iraqis would think very highly of that idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm wondering about the part where Senator Kerry says he wants to "involve our allies in the development of a new Iraqi constitution..." I thought the Iraqis were supposed to develop their own, permanent constitution. He plans to remove that authority from the Iraqis and save it for the U.S. and our allies?</p>
<p>Sounds pretty cheeky to me. I'm not sure the Iraqis would think very highly of that idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Legal XXX</title>
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		<dc:creator>Legal XXX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2004 18:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Aural Six&lt;/strong&gt;
A roundup of posts you should be reading</description>
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A roundup of posts you should be reading</p>
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		<title>By: McGehee</title>
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		<dc:creator>McGehee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2004 17:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;With all due respect, Senator, it isn&#039;t a plan. It&#039;s a series of platitudes basically saying nothing more than &quot;We&#039;re going to do exactly what the Bush Administration has been doing but it&#039;s going to somehow work when we do it.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I once challenged an anti-Bush commenter on some blog, to explain what her candidate&#039;s plan was to do better than Bush.

What I got was, as you say, a series of platitudes instead of a plan. And I told her so.

I never did get a further response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>With all due respect, Senator, it isn't a plan. It's a series of platitudes basically saying nothing more than "We're going to do exactly what the Bush Administration has been doing but it's going to somehow work when we do it."</i></p>
<p>I once challenged an anti-Bush commenter on some blog, to explain what her candidate's plan was to do better than Bush.</p>
<p>What I got was, as you say, a series of platitudes instead of a plan. And I told her so.</p>
<p>I never did get a further response.</p>
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		<title>By: The Glittering Eye</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Glittering Eye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2004 16:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Plan is to bring troops home&lt;/strong&gt;
James Joyner of Outside the Beltway fisks John Kerry&#039;s Sunday op-ed in USA Today. Mr. Joyner&#039;s job is thorough and efficient. I have one question for Mr. Kerry: why is bringing the troops home your plan? I know that Iraq...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Plan is to bring troops home</strong><br />
James Joyner of Outside the Beltway fisks John Kerry's Sunday op-ed in USA Today. Mr. Joyner's job is thorough and efficient. I have one question for Mr. Kerry: why is bringing the troops home your plan? I know that Iraq...</p>
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		<title>By: The Key Monk</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Key Monk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2004 15:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Kerry Withdrawal Plan Fisking&lt;/strong&gt;
See also here for my previous comments and Capt. Ed&#039;s take.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Kerry Withdrawal Plan Fisking</strong><br />
See also here for my previous comments and Capt. Ed's take.</p>
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		<title>By: Fringe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fringe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2004 15:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;And the Wind Cries Mary&lt;/strong&gt;
Feces Flinging Monkey has the goods on Kerry. Personally, I wouldn&#039;t think Vietnam would be such a big deal, but Kerry kind of made it a point to keep bringing it up, so I can&#039;t blame people who dig up...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>And the Wind Cries Mary</strong><br />
Feces Flinging Monkey has the goods on Kerry. Personally, I wouldn't think Vietnam would be such a big deal, but Kerry kind of made it a point to keep bringing it up, so I can't blame people who dig up...</p>
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		<title>By: mypetjawa v. 2.0 (beta)</title>
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		<dc:creator>mypetjawa v. 2.0 (beta)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2004 15:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Kerry&#039;s &#039;Secret Plan&#039; Revealed...sort of&lt;/strong&gt;
Kerry is more dangerous than I thought.  His is a classic example of an ego run amuck.  He believes that his personality can somehow change the course of history and the interest of nations.  This is not a &#039;realistic plan&#039; as he claims.  It is sheer ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Kerry's 'Secret Plan' Revealed...sort of</strong><br />
Kerry is more dangerous than I thought.  His is a classic example of an ego run amuck.  He believes that his personality can somehow change the course of history and the interest of nations.  This is not a 'realistic plan' as he claims.  It is sheer ...</p>
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		<title>By: Heretical Ideas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heretical Ideas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2004 13:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;SLAMMING KERRY&#039;S WAR PLANS&lt;/strong&gt;
James Joyner ably deconstructs Kerry&#039;s war plans--at least, the ones given in this USA Today op-ed. He neatly sums up his points by pointing out:With all due respect, Senator, it isn&#039;t a plan. It&#039;s a series of platitudes basically saying...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>SLAMMING KERRY'S WAR PLANS</strong><br />
James Joyner ably deconstructs Kerry's war plans--at least, the ones given in this USA Today op-ed. He neatly sums up his points by pointing out:With all due respect, Senator, it isn't a plan. It's a series of platitudes basically saying...</p>
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		<title>By: Mark the Pundit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark the Pundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2004 13:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Kerry&#039;s &quot;Plan&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;
James Joyner does a damn good job of taking apart John Kerry&#039;s &quot;plan&quot; for Iraq, which when read is nothing more than simplistic platitudes he has been telling us ever since he decided he was entitled to be president because...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Kerry's "Plan"</strong><br />
James Joyner does a damn good job of taking apart John Kerry's "plan" for Iraq, which when read is nothing more than simplistic platitudes he has been telling us ever since he decided he was entitled to be president because...</p>
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		<title>By: Jen Speaks...because I love to run off my mouth!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen Speaks...because I love to run off my mouth!</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Mon Aug 09, 2004     Kerry&#039;s Plan   &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/7136&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;James nicely fisks John Kerry&#039;s plan&lt;/a&gt; to bring the troops home. You need to read th [...]</description>
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<p> <a href="http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/7136" target="_blank">James nicely fisks John Kerry's plan</a> to bring the troops home. You need to read th [...]</p>
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