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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/john_mccains_acceptance_speech_/comment-page-2/#comment-512672</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quayle got out of the public spot light. The MSM slam him all the time while fawning over Gore. Wonder why! Gore also lost a close election. Carter still gets press and he doesn’t live a rock star lifestyle. He is pretty much senile on top of that.  I can’t believe you think Gore is relevant because he lives a rock star lifestyle. Maybe you need to talk to your wife again. Maybe she can talk some sense into you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quayle got out of the public spot light. The MSM slam him all the time while fawning over Gore. Wonder why! Gore also lost a close election. Carter still gets press and he doesn&rsquo;t live a rock star lifestyle. He is pretty much senile on top of that.  I can&rsquo;t believe you think Gore is relevant because he lives a rock star lifestyle. Maybe you need to talk to your wife again. Maybe she can talk some sense into you.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/john_mccains_acceptance_speech_/comment-page-2/#comment-512576</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Gore is famous because he is a former VP not because he lives the lifestyle of a Rock Star.&lt;/blockquote&gt;So, what is Dan Quayle up to?  Being a former VP isn&#039;t enough to keep you at celebrity status.  Gore is relevant precisely because he lives the lifestyle of a rock star.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Gore is famous because he is a former VP not because he lives the lifestyle of a Rock Star.</p></blockquote>
<p>So, what is Dan Quayle up to?  Being a former VP isn't enough to keep you at celebrity status.  Gore is relevant precisely because he lives the lifestyle of a rock star.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/john_mccains_acceptance_speech_/comment-page-2/#comment-512563</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gore is famous because he is a former VP not because he lives the lifestyle of a Rock Star. To a great many they won’t consider his crisis message until he starts to act like it in his personal life. It seems more likely that he is just out to make a buck and stay in the spot light. It is about like someone screaming “bomb get out” in a crowded movie theater then stays seated sipping their soda while continuing watching the movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gore is famous because he is a former VP not because he lives the lifestyle of a Rock Star. To a great many they won&rsquo;t consider his crisis message until he starts to act like it in his personal life. It seems more likely that he is just out to make a buck and stay in the spot light. It is about like someone screaming “bomb get out” in a crowded movie theater then stays seated sipping their soda while continuing watching the movie.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Those who are both are more effective than those who are only one or the other. Gore is famous\infamous. My argument that you disagree with was if he was both he would be more effective than if he was just famous\infamous.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I&#039;m not disagreeing with that argument, just it&#039;s premise, that if Gore were to focus on making his personal life &quot;green&quot;, he would be both.  

I think that the amount of effort he would have to put into his personal life in order for it to provide him credibility, would preclude him from maintaining his public life to the degree necessary to provide celebrity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Those who are both are more effective than those who are only one or the other. Gore is famous\infamous. My argument that you disagree with was if he was both he would be more effective than if he was just famous\infamous.</p></blockquote>
<p>I'm not disagreeing with that argument, just it's premise, that if Gore were to focus on making his personal life "green", he would be both.  </p>
<p>I think that the amount of effort he would have to put into his personal life in order for it to provide him credibility, would preclude him from maintaining his public life to the degree necessary to provide celebrity.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those who are both are more effective than those who are only one or the other. Gore is famous\infamous. My argument that you disagree with was if he was both he would be more effective than if he was just famous\infamous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those who are both are more effective than those who are only one or the other. Gore is famous\infamous. My argument that you disagree with was if he was both he would be more effective than if he was just famous\infamous.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Come on Michael someone who is credible is almost always more effective. Are there exceptions, of course but exceptions by definition are rare.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Almost always, yes, but I would argue that people who are famous are almost always more effective than people who are credible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Come on Michael someone who is credible is almost always more effective. Are there exceptions, of course but exceptions by definition are rare.</p></blockquote>
<p>Almost always, yes, but I would argue that people who are famous are almost always more effective than people who are credible.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on Michael someone who is credible is almost always more effective. Are there exceptions, of course but exceptions by definition are rare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on Michael someone who is credible is almost always more effective. Are there exceptions, of course but exceptions by definition are rare.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/john_mccains_acceptance_speech_/comment-page-2/#comment-512311</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 23:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I believe if Gore lead by example he would be more creditable and therefore accomplish much more.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I doubt it.  Celebrities don&#039;t have to be credible to effect change, they just have to be famous.  Just look at how much money Bono has raised for 3rd world debt relief compared to how much he&#039;s given himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I believe if Gore lead by example he would be more creditable and therefore accomplish much more.</p></blockquote>
<p>I doubt it.  Celebrities don't have to be credible to effect change, they just have to be famous.  Just look at how much money Bono has raised for 3rd world debt relief compared to how much he's given himself.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/john_mccains_acceptance_speech_/comment-page-2/#comment-512305</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A net positive change would be good but I wouldn’t consider it as necessary good behavior. Someone who has a 365 times larger “personal” footprint than the average person and reduces it down to 364.9 is a net positive which is good but I wouldn’t consider it good behavior. 

“I wasn&#039;t disagreeing with that, just the contention that he can accomplish more by focusing on his personal CO2 footprint”

I believe if Gore lead by example he would be more creditable and therefore accomplish much more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A net positive change would be good but I wouldn&rsquo;t consider it as necessary good behavior. Someone who has a 365 times larger “personal” footprint than the average person and reduces it down to 364.9 is a net positive which is good but I wouldn&rsquo;t consider it good behavior. </p>
<p>“I wasn't disagreeing with that, just the contention that he can accomplish more by focusing on his personal CO2 footprint”</p>
<p>I believe if Gore lead by example he would be more creditable and therefore accomplish much more.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/john_mccains_acceptance_speech_/comment-page-2/#comment-512300</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 21:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What net rate of production of CO2 is considered a bad behavior?&lt;/blockquote&gt;Any positive change in the net rate is bad behavior, any negative change is good behavior.  A net rate of 0 is the ideal, but not one that is practically achievable in any known time frame.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Although none of this addresses that fact that you asking me to follow through on Anjin promises.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Yeah, we did get off course a bit.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Gore lives in luxury.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I wasn&#039;t disagreeing with that, just the contention that he can accomplish more by focusing on his personal CO2 footprint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What net rate of production of CO2 is considered a bad behavior?</p></blockquote>
<p>Any positive change in the net rate is bad behavior, any negative change is good behavior.  A net rate of 0 is the ideal, but not one that is practically achievable in any known time frame.</p>
<blockquote><p>Although none of this addresses that fact that you asking me to follow through on Anjin promises.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, we did get off course a bit.</p>
<blockquote><p>Gore lives in luxury.</p></blockquote>
<p>I wasn't disagreeing with that, just the contention that he can accomplish more by focusing on his personal CO2 footprint.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 21:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your diesel truck example is a good one. I agree with it but for someone to drive that same truck or RV across country as a luxury is something else entirely. Gore lives in luxury.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your diesel truck example is a good one. I agree with it but for someone to drive that same truck or RV across country as a luxury is something else entirely. Gore lives in luxury.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 21:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What net rate of production of CO2 is considered a bad behavior?


Gore is telling us to reduce our carbon footprint, yet refuses to take simple steps that would result in a reduction of his own footprint.  

Although none of this addresses that fact that you asking me to follow through on Anjin promises.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What net rate of production of CO2 is considered a bad behavior?</p>
<p>Gore is telling us to reduce our carbon footprint, yet refuses to take simple steps that would result in a reduction of his own footprint.  </p>
<p>Although none of this addresses that fact that you asking me to follow through on Anjin promises.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/john_mccains_acceptance_speech_/comment-page-2/#comment-512205</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;No just that trying to excuse your bad behavior because you try to prevent others from the same bad behavior doesn’t fly.&lt;/blockquote&gt;The thing is that having a carbon footprint isn&#039;t &quot;bad behavior&quot; like rape is.  Any rate of sexual assault &gt; 0 is &quot;bad behavior&quot;, but any new rate of CO2 production &lt; the old rate is &quot;good behavior&quot;, even if the new rate is &gt; 0.

The fact that Gore produces CO2 in the course of his efforts to reduce the production of CO2 isn&#039;t &quot;bad behavior&quot; as long as there is a net negative change in CO2 production as a result of it  (Note: I&#039;m not saying this is necessarily the case for Gore, but rather stating it as a general rule).

A more tangible example would be using a diesel trunk to bring seedlings to a reforestation project, the diesel produces CO2, but doing so allows for a net reduction in CO2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>No just that trying to excuse your bad behavior because you try to prevent others from the same bad behavior doesn&rsquo;t fly.</p></blockquote>
<p>The thing is that having a carbon footprint isn't "bad behavior" like rape is.  Any rate of sexual assault &gt; 0 is "bad behavior", but any new rate of CO2 production &lt; the old rate is "good behavior", even if the new rate is &gt; 0.</p>
<p>The fact that Gore produces CO2 in the course of his efforts to reduce the production of CO2 isn't "bad behavior" as long as there is a net negative change in CO2 production as a result of it  (Note: I'm not saying this is necessarily the case for Gore, but rather stating it as a general rule).</p>
<p>A more tangible example would be using a diesel trunk to bring seedlings to a reforestation project, the diesel produces CO2, but doing so allows for a net reduction in CO2.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 15:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Unless you think a carbon footprint is comparable to rape”

No just that trying to excuse your bad behavior because you try to prevent others from the same bad behavior doesn’t fly. Now if there was a surprise emergency Global warming meeting that the only way he could get there is by private jet then it would be excusable. However there are many aspect of his lifestyle that he could change to help with his “carbon footprint” but doesn’t. Even some of his PR stunts he doesn’t carry through. Example claiming he had solar panels on his big houseboat. 

&quot;It takes money to make money&quot;
Quite right but I thought it was about saving the environment. Not really, I knew better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Unless you think a carbon footprint is comparable to rape”</p>
<p>No just that trying to excuse your bad behavior because you try to prevent others from the same bad behavior doesn&rsquo;t fly. Now if there was a surprise emergency Global warming meeting that the only way he could get there is by private jet then it would be excusable. However there are many aspect of his lifestyle that he could change to help with his “carbon footprint” but doesn&rsquo;t. Even some of his PR stunts he doesn&rsquo;t carry through. Example claiming he had solar panels on his big houseboat. </p>
<p>"It takes money to make money"<br />
Quite right but I thought it was about saving the environment. Not really, I knew better.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 03:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I can’t believe you defend Gore’s lifestyle. Your example is like a cop saying “don’t mind me committing rape once a year since I “might” prevent more rapes then I commit”.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Not at all, it&#039;s more a case of &quot;It takes money to make money&quot;.  Unless you think a carbon footprint is comparable to rape.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I can&rsquo;t believe you defend Gore&rsquo;s lifestyle. Your example is like a cop saying “don&rsquo;t mind me committing rape once a year since I “might” prevent more rapes then I commit”.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not at all, it's more a case of "It takes money to make money".  Unless you think a carbon footprint is comparable to rape.</p>
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