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	<title>Comments on: John Stossel:  Wage Gap Economics, Not Discrimination</title>
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		<title>By: psikeyhackr</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/john_stossel_wage_gap_economics_not_discrimination/comment-page-1/#comment-49977</link>
		<dc:creator>psikeyhackr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alas, a Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/john_stossel_wage_gap_economics_not_discrimination/comment-page-1/#comment-49861</link>
		<dc:creator>Alas, a Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;John Stossel on the Wage Gap&lt;/strong&gt;

Stosselâs big mistake is assuming that if sexism is behind the wage gap, then it must be entirely a matter of women being paid 25% less than men for identical jobs. </description>
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<p>Stosselâs big mistake is assuming that if sexism is behind the wage gap, then it must be entirely a matter of women being paid 25% less than men for identical jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/john_stossel_wage_gap_economics_not_discrimination/comment-page-1/#comment-49664</link>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bryan:  Market determines price.  Plunkett was a #1 overall pick and a huge bust, until he finally reached his potential with the Raiders as a veteran.  Presumably, though, teams would pay QBs minimum salary if they thought that was the best way to compete.  The best course, certainly, is to get lucky on a 6th round pick and have him pay dividends before the second contract.  

The CEOs issue is fuzzier, since the board has some conflicts of interest.  Still, one presumes they would prefer to pay their CEO $100k rather than $1 mil ceteris parabas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bryan:  Market determines price.  Plunkett was a #1 overall pick and a huge bust, until he finally reached his potential with the Raiders as a veteran.  Presumably, though, teams would pay QBs minimum salary if they thought that was the best way to compete.  The best course, certainly, is to get lucky on a 6th round pick and have him pay dividends before the second contract.  </p>
<p>The CEOs issue is fuzzier, since the board has some conflicts of interest.  Still, one presumes they would prefer to pay their CEO $100k rather than $1 mil ceteris parabas.</p>
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		<title>By: bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Ditto CEOs who can turn a multi-billion dollar conglomerate around&lt;/em&gt;

Actually, I could find plenty of CEO candidates who could do what CEOs did to Enron or WorldCom. In fact, from what I&#039;ve seen, CEO pay has very little to do with their record in past jobs or even with present performance of their companies, except on the margins. And getting fired is the ultimate perk, because they get massive buyouts.

As for quarterbacks who can take their teams to the Super Bowl, that&#039;s a little bit misleading as well. 
Rich Gannon,
Jim Plunkett
Tony Eason
Mark Rypien
Neil O&#039;Donnell
Brad Johnson
Jake Delhomme
Trent Dilfer
Kerry Collins

Any of those names ring a bell? They all went to the super bowl. None of them I&#039;d classify as super star quarterbacks. And then there&#039;s the Ryan Leaf factor to consider.

And as for Hollywood, somebody should be punished for some of the crap they put out (like, say, Ishtar, half of Adam Sandler&#039;s movies, and Steven Seagal).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Ditto CEOs who can turn a multi-billion dollar conglomerate around</em></p>
<p>Actually, I could find plenty of CEO candidates who could do what CEOs did to Enron or WorldCom. In fact, from what I've seen, CEO pay has very little to do with their record in past jobs or even with present performance of their companies, except on the margins. And getting fired is the ultimate perk, because they get massive buyouts.</p>
<p>As for quarterbacks who can take their teams to the Super Bowl, that's a little bit misleading as well.<br />
Rich Gannon,<br />
Jim Plunkett<br />
Tony Eason<br />
Mark Rypien<br />
Neil O'Donnell<br />
Brad Johnson<br />
Jake Delhomme<br />
Trent Dilfer<br />
Kerry Collins</p>
<p>Any of those names ring a bell? They all went to the super bowl. None of them I'd classify as super star quarterbacks. And then there's the Ryan Leaf factor to consider.</p>
<p>And as for Hollywood, somebody should be punished for some of the crap they put out (like, say, Ishtar, half of Adam Sandler's movies, and Steven Seagal).</p>
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		<title>By: hln</title>
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		<dc:creator>hln</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And if you&#039;re a woman seeking a job for which a man would certainly be negotiating and not taking the first offer, you&#039;d best do the same.

So many women don&#039;t.

hln</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if you're a woman seeking a job for which a man would certainly be negotiating and not taking the first offer, you'd best do the same.</p>
<p>So many women don't.</p>
<p>hln</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bryan: But the market isn&#039;t just demand, it&#039;s also supply.  The supply of superstar quarterbacks who can take a team to the Super Bowl is exceedingly small.  Ditto CEOs who can turn a multi-billion dollar conglomerate around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bryan: But the market isn't just demand, it's also supply.  The supply of superstar quarterbacks who can take a team to the Super Bowl is exceedingly small.  Ditto CEOs who can turn a multi-billion dollar conglomerate around.</p>
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		<title>By: bryan</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/john_stossel_wage_gap_economics_not_discrimination/comment-page-1/#comment-49639</link>
		<dc:creator>bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;The marketâs definition of justice carries no moral component that would make it punish CEOs, athletes or actors.&lt;/em&gt;

That&#039;s a new definition of justice to me, and no doubt to about 99 percent of the rest of the world. What is &quot;justice&quot; without a moral component, McGehee?

Anyway, the point stands. The demand for CEOs would stand regardless of the obscene salaries they are given. Ditto athletes and movie stars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>The marketâs definition of justice carries no moral component that would make it punish CEOs, athletes or actors.</em></p>
<p>That's a new definition of justice to me, and no doubt to about 99 percent of the rest of the world. What is "justice" without a moral component, McGehee?</p>
<p>Anyway, the point stands. The demand for CEOs would stand regardless of the obscene salaries they are given. Ditto athletes and movie stars.</p>
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		<title>By: McGehee</title>
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		<dc:creator>McGehee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The market&#039;s definition of justice carries no moral component that would make it punish CEOs, athletes or actors. The market rewards based on the demand for the product and nothing else.

Seen in those terms, Stossel is right -- but it&#039;s an understanding of the word most people aren&#039;t familiar with. Maybe he should have put it differently, but the point stands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The market's definition of justice carries no moral component that would make it punish CEOs, athletes or actors. The market rewards based on the demand for the product and nothing else.</p>
<p>Seen in those terms, Stossel is right -- but it's an understanding of the word most people aren't familiar with. Maybe he should have put it differently, but the point stands.</p>
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		<title>By: bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt; But the market isn&#039;t hostile. The market is just. It rewards you for the work you do, not for the work you choose not to do.&lt;/em&gt;

I agree that the market isn&#039;t hostile to women, but it damn sure isn&#039;t &quot;just,&quot; either. That wouldn&#039;t explain the obscene salaries paid to CEOs, star athletes and hollywood actors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em> But the market isn't hostile. The market is just. It rewards you for the work you do, not for the work you choose not to do.</em></p>
<p>I agree that the market isn't hostile to women, but it damn sure isn't "just," either. That wouldn't explain the obscene salaries paid to CEOs, star athletes and hollywood actors.</p>
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		<title>By: Musings from Brian J. Noggle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Musings from Brian J. Noggle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Unintentional Irony Alert&lt;/strong&gt;

Undoubtedly, the distinguished gentleperson is upset she makes $118,575 and her male colleagues make $158,100.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Unintentional Irony Alert</strong></p>
<p>Undoubtedly, the distinguished gentleperson is upset she makes $118,575 and her male colleagues make $158,100.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/category/21/the-wage-gap-series/</description>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As oposed to racial issues, how about looking at the connection between monetary disparity and cultural issues?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As oposed to racial issues, how about looking at the connection between monetary disparity and cultural issues?</p>
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