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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/journalistic_force_multipliers/comment-page-1/#comment-101806</link>
		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like the NYT story on the White House&#039;s burial of the &quot;stay the course&quot; slogan, which somehow failed to even mention Bush&#039;s &quot;it&#039;s never been &#039;stay the course&#039;&quot; remark over the weekend.  I guess the White House left that out of the press release.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like the NYT story on the White House's burial of the "stay the course" slogan, which somehow failed to even mention Bush's "it's never been 'stay the course'" remark over the weekend.  I guess the White House left that out of the press release.</p>
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		<title>By: cian</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/journalistic_force_multipliers/comment-page-1/#comment-101795</link>
		<dc:creator>cian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 13:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do their job is right, John. The New York Times just ran an article on whether or not Joe Lieberman ever used the &#039;stay the course&#039; phrase. After an exhaustive search of their database they confidently reported that no such phrase was ever uttered by the good Senator.

The apology is now online. Nexis, Factiva, pubmed and all the rest are amazing tools, but you have to use them. Sorry, let me rephrase that- you need to want to use them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do their job is right, John. The New York Times just ran an article on whether or not Joe Lieberman ever used the 'stay the course' phrase. After an exhaustive search of their database they confidently reported that no such phrase was ever uttered by the good Senator.</p>
<p>The apology is now online. Nexis, Factiva, pubmed and all the rest are amazing tools, but you have to use them. Sorry, let me rephrase that- you need to want to use them.</p>
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		<title>By: John Burgess</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/journalistic_force_multipliers/comment-page-1/#comment-101782</link>
		<dc:creator>John Burgess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 05:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don, we don&#039;t want you &quot;gone&quot;, we just wish your profession would do its fricking job! Instead, it&#039;s a combination of overtaxed reporters doing half-assed jobs.

The overtaxed part isn&#039;t your fault--but where oh where is that journalists&#039; union? The half-assed and lazy part is your (collective) fault. The total lack of introspection on the part of journalists is only typical for the age, I guess, but it&#039;s one of the major reasons that traditional journalism is dying an ugly death. 

Instead of J-school grads trying to &quot;save the world,&quot; they could start by trying to save their souls. And I mean that in a humanistic, not a religious sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don, we don't want you "gone", we just wish your profession would do its fricking job! Instead, it's a combination of overtaxed reporters doing half-assed jobs.</p>
<p>The overtaxed part isn't your fault--but where oh where is that journalists' union? The half-assed and lazy part is your (collective) fault. The total lack of introspection on the part of journalists is only typical for the age, I guess, but it's one of the major reasons that traditional journalism is dying an ugly death. </p>
<p>Instead of J-school grads trying to "save the world," they could start by trying to save their souls. And I mean that in a humanistic, not a religious sense.</p>
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		<title>By: don surber</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/journalistic_force_multipliers/comment-page-1/#comment-101773</link>
		<dc:creator>don surber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 02:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yer gonna miss us when we&#039;re gone ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yer gonna miss us when we're gone ...</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/journalistic_force_multipliers/comment-page-1/#comment-101748</link>
		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 22:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And yet, as Brad DeLong shows over &amp; over, journalists ignore the wealth of data at their fingertips, in favor of writing down whatever the gov&#039;t tells them and getting an &quot;oppo quote&quot; for the next-to-last graf on page A15.

Quality, not quantity, of journalists is the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet, as Brad DeLong shows over &amp; over, journalists ignore the wealth of data at their fingertips, in favor of writing down whatever the gov't tells them and getting an "oppo quote" for the next-to-last graf on page A15.</p>
<p>Quality, not quantity, of journalists is the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: yetanotherjohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>yetanotherjohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 22:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The one qualitative advantage the newspapers have is in getting the story. Blogs are much better at context and analysis (which is in part because of the stuff the middle schooler example points out), but not as good at getting the original reporting. I think they have the potential in the future for improving on this, but not yet. 

So when a newspaper takes its top assets (reporters who presumably are gathering the news) and reduces it, they are cutting into their advantage. The more they reduce themselves, the more they tend to rely on the &quot;press release&quot; story. And there, the blogs can be just as good.

I would suggest that they work on becoming a more trustworthy news source. The paper that can produce the most accurate, unslanted report on what is going on will have a huge advantage as the internet age unfolds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one qualitative advantage the newspapers have is in getting the story. Blogs are much better at context and analysis (which is in part because of the stuff the middle schooler example points out), but not as good at getting the original reporting. I think they have the potential in the future for improving on this, but not yet. </p>
<p>So when a newspaper takes its top assets (reporters who presumably are gathering the news) and reduces it, they are cutting into their advantage. The more they reduce themselves, the more they tend to rely on the "press release" story. And there, the blogs can be just as good.</p>
<p>I would suggest that they work on becoming a more trustworthy news source. The paper that can produce the most accurate, unslanted report on what is going on will have a huge advantage as the internet age unfolds.</p>
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		<title>By: John Burgess</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Burgess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 21:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d argue that the more foreign correspondents who exist within the realm of journalists, the better the nation--as well as the newspapers--are served.

Leaving foreign reporting to a handful of &quot;biggies&quot; means limiting perspectives to a handful of people. Some of the best foreign reporting I&#039;ve seen has come from papers like &lt;em&gt;The Hartford Courant&lt;/em&gt;. I already know how the NYT and WaPo will report an incident, how close to the facts they care to get. With one reporter responsible for a half-dozen or more reporters, there will be okay coverage of one or two countries, then a hash on everything else. 

In my dealings with the reporters from the big papers and networks, it was always a matter of providing data to support the pre-conceived story. Those from small papers were usually a surprise.

Not all NYT or WaPo foreign correspondents are junk, just most of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'd argue that the more foreign correspondents who exist within the realm of journalists, the better the nation--as well as the newspapers--are served.</p>
<p>Leaving foreign reporting to a handful of "biggies" means limiting perspectives to a handful of people. Some of the best foreign reporting I've seen has come from papers like <em>The Hartford Courant</em>. I already know how the NYT and WaPo will report an incident, how close to the facts they care to get. With one reporter responsible for a half-dozen or more reporters, there will be okay coverage of one or two countries, then a hash on everything else. </p>
<p>In my dealings with the reporters from the big papers and networks, it was always a matter of providing data to support the pre-conceived story. Those from small papers were usually a surprise.</p>
<p>Not all NYT or WaPo foreign correspondents are junk, just most of them.</p>
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