Comments on: Katrina: New Orleans in Anarchy With Fights, Rapes

By: esoterically.net » National disgrace

esoterically.net » National disgrace — Thu, 15 Sep 2005 02:54:13 +0000

[...] But… according to right-wing blogger Outside The Beltway, all the problems in New Orleans right now are being caused by the criminals in New Orleans. Perhaps, just perhaps, my hometown would not have as many “criminals.” [...]

By: 504eva

504eva — Mon, 12 Sep 2005 21:17:08 +0000

Okie- calm down. You'd cry for food too if u didn't have it. It's great to sit in front of your computer in your dry home saying that u could go for four days without eating and not complain at all, but for someone who's gone through it, it's not easy. so if you're not helping, stop hurting

By: Okie

Okie — Thu, 08 Sep 2005 02:11:28 +0000

I think all of you are making fine points but the truth is that this was not seen coming. They were told to "get out of dodge" and many did that could but many who could did not. they were going to ride it out like always. who knew the flooding would be so bad? The flooding and then the looting kept feds at bay. Everyone cried 4 days with no food or water!!!! big deal....i know its hot in NO... Oklahoma is not that far away it is hot here to...but i do not need ice or food and water i am young and strong i could go 4 days with out food and water easy....the young and old are the only ones who have a right to cry for food and water after 4 days....help was on the way but if all else failed i would have started my azz to walking north out of that dome or covention center...i would have found someway to get my old and young out there before the storm hit...its sad that people who live with that threat did not prepare or take it serious enough......and yes i think alot of the looting was right if you need food and water take it but i saw pics of guys with 30 pairs of jeans and a trunk full of beer and tv's....i blame it on the poor blacks and i do not think that it is Americas(or white americas) fault that the blacks were poor...lots of them are young and strong ....they could have toughed it out or took off walking instead they stayed and when it was all over the raped looted and killed....and i would like to say that okies are not heartless...we got in there before any other state to help...alot of okies see things the way i do but we have not forgotten what america did for us in 95

By: Mr. Mardi Gras

Mr. Mardi Gras — Sat, 03 Sep 2005 20:17:49 +0000

Reading through this discussion has been almost as devastating as watching Katrina rip my city to pieces. I never could have imagined that in one day, my parents, my younger sister, all 4 of my grandparents, as well as many other family memebers and friends would lose everything they had worked for. I know it is just stuff but people have lost the large majority of all their material possesions. And to see the insensitivity some people have shown towards the people of New Orleans in nothing less than appalling. To thoughtlessly condemn an entire city based on what you see on the news is insulting and irresponsible. Imagine your family and friends being affected by something such as this and me saying, "Let them die! Let the alligators feed on em!" Trust me, its not a good feeling. Help should have been sent earlier, it's not like no one knew a hurricane of that magnitude would make New Orleans a giant urban swamp, and the looting of electronics and other non-essential items is in no way defendable, nor are the rapes and other senseless crimes, but now is not the time to have such discussions. We can argue about liberals, conservatives, republicans, and democrats , and other political stuff AFTER the people who were for one reason or another unable to leave are taken care of. It seems just a little ridiculous to argue about bush right now when some of my friends are still unaccounted for.

By: Fred

Fred — Sat, 03 Sep 2005 11:09:25 +0000

The gang bangers and rapist need to meet a quick end. They don't deserve any help. Too many inocent people need the help and support. I don't care what background they came from, but the lawlessness needs to stop.

By: Jasmine

Jasmine — Sat, 03 Sep 2005 10:15:28 +0000

looting is necessary, but rape is never necessary you fools! there are sexual offenders in every city. the rapists at the superdome included child molesters. a doctor on site counted 12 rapes in 2 days. it makes me mad that criminal background checks weren't run a week prior & the site wasn't set up then. you don't just house the bloods with the crips either. gang violence doesn't stop in a flood or hurricane. rape traumatizes witnesses and many people witnessed them (that's the second complaint out of everyone's mouth next to "i need water"). imagine you just saw a category five rip apart your house and next a rape. then, you have to sleep next to dead people. and you're starving for 5 days. the psychological effects of this chaos are going to be permanent. i doubt they have funding for that, though i heard the drug companies have stated "tell us what you need." prozac, morphine, lower drug prices all the time!

By: 504eva

504eva — Sat, 03 Sep 2005 07:38:49 +0000

wow. some of you guys really dont care about my city
the reason theres so much chaos in new orleans is because we didn't get any help for so long.
I agree, most of the stuff they show on tv is horrible, but it's not so bad to break into wal-mart to get baby food.
Maybe you all cant imagine your city and all your possessions destroyed, but it's rough, and some people can't deal. I still haven't found everyone.
Please have a little more heart for New Orleans
P.S. And Fred, thanks for your comment about the allegators can eat my people. I really appreciate that, especially since some of my family and friends are stuck there. I'm praying for you

By: Son

Son — Sat, 03 Sep 2005 05:59:14 +0000

I've noticed that a common theme on this thread is "Why the hell are they raping and pillaging?" Why the hell not? Why should they stop? If people need to be helping, why the hell aren't you driving your ass over there to help? We all know how much space your huge SUV has. Oh wait, that's right. You people will act noble, and then go back to minding your own business. Here's the real deal. The people of the state that are willing to rape, loot, and pillage have had the urge for a long, long time now. It didn't suddenly just pop into their minds. Similar to Los Angeles riots, it probably has something to do with oppression on some level (read:Bush). Are they correct in rioting? Are their actions Just? I think so. Were a hurricane that created that much pure chaos to hit my home, I'd be the first in the street with my shotty ready to start some looting. Only because I live in a very "red" state, though. I'd never consider it at home in Philly.

By: hondo -NYC

hondo -NYC — Sat, 03 Sep 2005 02:45:03 +0000

So typical making excuses and rationalizing for thugs - and there are not a few of them but many. When people (any people) have needs out of desperation they can work together to survive. But self-serving opportunistic thievery began almost immediately - and they are gonna need food and water too when they run out in a day or two - and quess where they are going to turn when they've had their fill of TVs and stereos - be prepared for the most massive black-on-black violence ever seen outside the 3rd world - rationalize that with a straight face.

By: Natalie

Natalie — Sat, 03 Sep 2005 00:47:28 +0000

It doesn't matter the race/ethnicity of the looters- these people are acting out of desperation. When people have no hope, they behave in a multitude of ways. People are shooting at the helicopters b/c they're stuck on roofs- how would you feel being stuck on a roof for several days while watching neighboors get rescued? You'd be pretty pissed too. Also, there's a small number of thugs/looters making trouble. There are thousands of people who aren't doing anything but waiting for help! We should concentrate on those people and not the few thugs causing problems. You have to understand the psychology of people. When you're pissed off, desparate and hopeless (b/c of a lack of help), then people tend to do things for survival purposes. I read a story where hotel managers told their guests to go to the local market and steal food, b/c they didn't have any. So the guests did just that! The government has just now stepped in, but it's a bit too late. People have been dying. It's horrible.

By: Natalie

Natalie — Sat, 03 Sep 2005 00:40:45 +0000

The Federal government needs to take over in order for the situation to be handled properly. It is wrong how the fed. gov. responded so late- people have dyed and others are living in filth. It's wrong. The National Guard and FEMA should be ashamed of themselves!

By: hondo -NYC

hondo -NYC — Fri, 02 Sep 2005 19:32:08 +0000

Some may have made overt racist comments - inevitable - but nothing is going to change this fact - this is all being filmed - the whole world and America are watching - NO is a black-run city, with a hugh black majority, and the peolpe we are seeing are black. Every stereotype and negative opinion imagined is being played out before our eyes. Some can attempt to re-package this, glaze over it, explain away, or better yet, blame Bush - but it is not going to work. Where I live is an affluent upscale very liberal neighborhood - they all have the proper opinions and believes and are all eager to tell you. But they are also quietly eager to tell you of their increased fears and nightmare senerios of those two housing projects off in the distance and "that" neighborhood along the waterfront. Everyone is watching NO.

By: Patrick

Patrick — Fri, 02 Sep 2005 16:56:50 +0000

So if I'm understanding this correctly, a bunch of predatory thugs AND their victims (incl. many children, elderly, sick) are being conflated as "THEM" (or better yet "the jigs")? And it's the fault of hip hop culture?? Shiiiiit.

By: Anderson

Anderson — Fri, 02 Sep 2005 16:06:02 +0000

LJD, your references to Jackson and Sharpton seem to belie your race-neutrality. I don't know why you single them out.

But N.O. is 70% black; when you leave only the poorer residents, that % skews up dramatically. So naturally, most looters & thugs will be black.

As for the alleged problem of the Left's failing to unify, etc., well, we did that on 9/11, only to be called traitors. Screw that. If this disaster had been handled properly, there would be little to complain about right now. As it stands, the President has said that what's been done isn't acceptable. I agree.

By: LJD

LJD — Fri, 02 Sep 2005 15:05:48 +0000

People should be labeled by their actions, not by the color of their skin. Any one who can steal for possessions or profit, who shoots at aid workers, starts fires, or rapes,... is acting like a "jig". This is no time for racism, and no time for political correctness. Get over it.

To reiterate my previous point, we are seeing the underbelly of American society here. Rather than make excuses, or point fingers, we should be looking at solutions. There needs to be some member of the black community stepping forward to call for calm and civility. Very likely they are there, doing just that, but for some reason it's not newsworthy. Again, Jackson and Sharpton should be ashamed. Maybe they need a Cosby-like awakening.