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	<title>Comments on: Kennedy, Congress, and the Surge</title>
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		<title>By: Barry Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 01:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Kennedy is so concerned with the welfare of American citizens and wants to investigate something ; start with Sandy Berger and find out what top secret information he stole from the security archives ! Can you imagine his outrage if this were Condi Rice stuffing stolen secret security documents in her &quot;socks&quot; ! Oh` the New York Slimes wiping-paper would be all over this one if it were Condi or anyone other than a socialist that the liberal bias` New York Slimes supports or worships !! God Bless America !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Kennedy is so concerned with the welfare of American citizens and wants to investigate something ; start with Sandy Berger and find out what top secret information he stole from the security archives ! Can you imagine his outrage if this were Condi Rice stuffing stolen secret security documents in her "socks" ! Oh` the New York Slimes wiping-paper would be all over this one if it were Condi or anyone other than a socialist that the liberal bias` New York Slimes supports or worships !! God Bless America !</p>
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		<title>By: Bill's Bites</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/kennedy_congress_and_the_surge/comment-page-1/#comment-109250</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill's Bites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 23:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Last Best Chance-- Updated with Levin/Jabba audio recording...&lt;/strong&gt;

Official: Bush to Admit Iraq Mistakes WASHINGTON — President George W. Bush will tell the nation Wednesday night that he should have sent more troops to Iraq to fight the war during the earlier stages of the nearly four-year conflict,...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Last Best Chance-- Updated with Levin/Jabba audio recording...</strong></p>
<p>Official: Bush to Admit Iraq Mistakes WASHINGTON — President George W. Bush will tell the nation Wednesday night that he should have sent more troops to Iraq to fight the war during the earlier stages of the nearly four-year conflict,...</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 22:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;So we were supposed to threaten him to get him to show that he didn’t have WMDs&lt;/em&gt;

Well, he did deliver that report to the UN; the White House mocked it at the time, but didn&#039;t it turn out to be, um, true?

Besides which, how could Saddam prove a negative?  There are *still* people who think the WMD are in Syria or such.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>So we were supposed to threaten him to get him to show that he didn&rsquo;t have WMDs</em></p>
<p>Well, he did deliver that report to the UN; the White House mocked it at the time, but didn't it turn out to be, um, true?</p>
<p>Besides which, how could Saddam prove a negative?  There are *still* people who think the WMD are in Syria or such.</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Toldjah &#187; Dems determined to repeat &#8216;nam defeat with a defeat in Iraq</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/kennedy_congress_and_the_surge/comment-page-1/#comment-109229</link>
		<dc:creator>Sister Toldjah &#187; Dems determined to repeat &#8216;nam defeat with a defeat in Iraq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 21:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] AJ Strata    Posted By: Sister Toldjah in: Iraq, Middle East, Congress  &#124; EMail This Post &#124; Print This Post &#124; &#160;&#160;      Trackback URI for this post:http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/01/10/dems-determined-to-repeat-nam-defeat-with-a-defeat-in-iraq/trackback/ &#187; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: McGehee</title>
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		<dc:creator>McGehee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 21:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The 2002 resolution was most definitely not a de-facto declaration of war. It was, paraphrased, “we authorize you to use the threat of force to make this guy live up to his obligations”.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, that&#039;s rich. So we were supposed to threaten him to get him to &lt;b&gt;show that he didn&#039;t have WMDs,&lt;/b&gt; (which he refused to do -- claiming it while obstructing the inspectors doesn&#039;t qualify as &quot;showing&quot;) and when he refused to do what he ... refused to do, we were supposed to do...what again?

Threaten him some more?

Yeah, that makes all kinds of sense. Only a &lt;em&gt;Democrat&lt;/em&gt;-controlled Congress would have done such a thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The 2002 resolution was most definitely not a de-facto declaration of war. It was, paraphrased, “we authorize you to use the threat of force to make this guy live up to his obligations”.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, that's rich. So we were supposed to threaten him to get him to <b>show that he didn't have WMDs,</b> (which he refused to do -- claiming it while obstructing the inspectors doesn't qualify as "showing") and when he refused to do what he ... refused to do, we were supposed to do...what again?</p>
<p>Threaten him some more?</p>
<p>Yeah, that makes all kinds of sense. Only a <em>Democrat</em>-controlled Congress would have done such a thing.</p>
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		<title>By: M1EK</title>
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		<dc:creator>M1EK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 19:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 2002 resolution was most definitely &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; a de-facto declaration of war. It was, paraphrased, &quot;we authorize you to use the threat of force to make this guy live up to his obligations&quot;.

Since, as it turned out, he was living up to the obligations we cared most about (not having WMDs), it&#039;s arguable whether it should even still be considered in effect at all, much less a de-facto open-end declaration of war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 2002 resolution was most definitely <em>not</em> a de-facto declaration of war. It was, paraphrased, "we authorize you to use the threat of force to make this guy live up to his obligations".</p>
<p>Since, as it turned out, he was living up to the obligations we cared most about (not having WMDs), it's arguable whether it should even still be considered in effect at all, much less a de-facto open-end declaration of war.</p>
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		<title>By: yetanotherjohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>yetanotherjohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 19:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is a prime example of constitutional struggle and politics. If we are really wrong to be in Iraq, then congress has two strong levers to pull. One is cutting funding and the other is impeachment. If we aren&#039;t wrong to be in Iraq, then congress can pass resolutions to &#039;advise&#039; the president, but they have to recognize that the constitution gives the control on how we fight the war into the president&#039;s hand. The people who drew up the constitution knew this first hand from their experience in the revolutionary war and the continental congress.

But if you can&#039;t make the case that it is wrong well enough to get the votes to cut funding or impeach, then you need to step back and ask the question who benefits from trying to joggle the president&#039;s arm during a war. And if you are playing petty politics when such high stakes are on the table, is there any reason to wonder that calmer heads are starting to appear now that the democrats got what they asked for in gaining control of congress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is a prime example of constitutional struggle and politics. If we are really wrong to be in Iraq, then congress has two strong levers to pull. One is cutting funding and the other is impeachment. If we aren't wrong to be in Iraq, then congress can pass resolutions to 'advise' the president, but they have to recognize that the constitution gives the control on how we fight the war into the president's hand. The people who drew up the constitution knew this first hand from their experience in the revolutionary war and the continental congress.</p>
<p>But if you can't make the case that it is wrong well enough to get the votes to cut funding or impeach, then you need to step back and ask the question who benefits from trying to joggle the president's arm during a war. And if you are playing petty politics when such high stakes are on the table, is there any reason to wonder that calmer heads are starting to appear now that the democrats got what they asked for in gaining control of congress.</p>
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		<title>By: Pug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 19:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Most of the pick-ups were from so call conservative Democrats.&lt;/i&gt;

No they weren&#039;t, Wayne.  In more conservative parts of the country the seats picked up by Democrats were mainly won by moderate-to-conservative candidates.  However, they &lt;em&gt;were&lt;/em&gt; still Democrats.  The seats won in the Northeast and California were won by more liberal Democrats.  Saying conservative Democrats won all the seats picked up is just conservative spin.

Are you attempting to make the argument that the elections were an endorsement of GWB&#039;s Iraq policy but people just decided they liked Democrats more for some reason?  It&#039;s time for a change meant it&#039;s time to send more troops to Iraq?

Seems like a lot of Republicans, including the president, don&#039;t give a damn about election results or Baker Commissions or anything else.  If thngs in Iraq in 2008 are the same or worse, it&#039;s look out below for Republicans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Most of the pick-ups were from so call conservative Democrats.</i></p>
<p>No they weren't, Wayne.  In more conservative parts of the country the seats picked up by Democrats were mainly won by moderate-to-conservative candidates.  However, they <em>were</em> still Democrats.  The seats won in the Northeast and California were won by more liberal Democrats.  Saying conservative Democrats won all the seats picked up is just conservative spin.</p>
<p>Are you attempting to make the argument that the elections were an endorsement of GWB's Iraq policy but people just decided they liked Democrats more for some reason?  It's time for a change meant it's time to send more troops to Iraq?</p>
<p>Seems like a lot of Republicans, including the president, don't give a damn about election results or Baker Commissions or anything else.  If thngs in Iraq in 2008 are the same or worse, it's look out below for Republicans.</p>
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		<title>By: MinorRipper</title>
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		<dc:creator>MinorRipper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 19:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So let me get this straight: Bush is now defying the Baker Report, Congress, the military, and the American public by escalating the war...Forgive me for not brimming over with confidence...
www.minor-ripper.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So let me get this straight: Bush is now defying the Baker Report, Congress, the military, and the American public by escalating the war...Forgive me for not brimming over with confidence...<br />
<a href="http://www.minor-ripper.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.minor-ripper.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 19:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It amazing that the Dems are claiming that the people voted for so many of these specifics policies. I don’t remember most of the Dems running on it before the election. About all the ran on was “it is time for a change” without ever spelling it out exactly how the were going to change it.

 Most of the pick-ups were from so call conservative Democrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It amazing that the Dems are claiming that the people voted for so many of these specifics policies. I don&rsquo;t remember most of the Dems running on it before the election. About all the ran on was “it is time for a change” without ever spelling it out exactly how the were going to change it.</p>
<p> Most of the pick-ups were from so call conservative Democrats.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 19:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apropos of the &quot;chicken hawk meme&quot; post, The Onion presents a headline we won&#039;t see in reality any time soon:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theonion.com/content/news/privileged_youths_enlist_to_fight_in_iraq&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;800,000 Privileged Youths Enlist To Fight In Iraq&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;em&gt;&quot;They don&#039;t have these recruitment centers where I live,&quot; said Daniel Feldman, 26, who resides in the affluent neighborhood of Brookline, MA and recently passed his bar exam. &quot;I didn&#039;t realize you could just sign up, but now that I do, all of my friends from law school, yoga class, and temple are going to join, too. And not the Reserves either. We&#039;re talking down and dirty, right on the front lines.&quot; * * *

U.S. Gen. John Abizaid, who has in the past argued against a timetable for withdrawal from Iraq, now says that with the influx of nearly a million troops expected to be on the ground Feb. 1, the region should be stabilized within six weeks.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apropos of the "chicken hawk meme" post, The Onion presents a headline we won't see in reality any time soon:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theonion.com/content/news/privileged_youths_enlist_to_fight_in_iraq" rel="nofollow">800,000 Privileged Youths Enlist To Fight In Iraq</a></p>
<p><em>"They don't have these recruitment centers where I live," said Daniel Feldman, 26, who resides in the affluent neighborhood of Brookline, MA and recently passed his bar exam. "I didn't realize you could just sign up, but now that I do, all of my friends from law school, yoga class, and temple are going to join, too. And not the Reserves either. We're talking down and dirty, right on the front lines." * * *</p>
<p>U.S. Gen. John Abizaid, who has in the past argued against a timetable for withdrawal from Iraq, now says that with the influx of nearly a million troops expected to be on the ground Feb. 1, the region should be stabilized within six weeks.</em></p>
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		<title>By: MY Vast Right Wing Conspiracy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ted Kennedy, the antiwar hero</title>
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		<dc:creator>MY Vast Right Wing Conspiracy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ted Kennedy, the antiwar hero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] He&#8217;s such an ass (read it). And he&#8217;s exactly the kind of ass who wants us to lose, because partisan showmanship and power (read it) are all that matters to him. (Well, that along with the booze and wimmen.)&#42; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] He&#8217;s such an ass (read it). And he&#8217;s exactly the kind of ass who wants us to lose, because partisan showmanship and power (read it) are all that matters to him. (Well, that along with the booze and wimmen.)&#42; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Right Voices &#187; Blog Archive &#187; OUTLINE OF SPEECH:Bush To Admit Iraq Mistakes Dems Don&#8217;t Understand The Constitution</title>
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		<dc:creator>Right Voices &#187; Blog Archive &#187; OUTLINE OF SPEECH:Bush To Admit Iraq Mistakes Dems Don&#8217;t Understand The Constitution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 17:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Others Blogging this:  Riehl World View, Outside The Beltway, Gateway Pundit, CorrenteWire, The Caucus, Sigmund, Carl and Alfred, Don Surber, Unclaimed Territory, Liberty Street, AMERICAN FUTURE, Pajamas Media and The Raw Story   – [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Others Blogging this:  Riehl World View, Outside The Beltway, Gateway Pundit, CorrenteWire, The Caucus, Sigmund, Carl and Alfred, Don Surber, Unclaimed Territory, Liberty Street, AMERICAN FUTURE, Pajamas Media and The Raw Story   – [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Triumph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Triumph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 17:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;the people have spoken- wind down with what little honour&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Uhh..nice try.   The American people would never speak about &quot;honour.&quot;  What are you, Canadian?

Stop trying to speak for Americans--your weird spelling exposes you as an agent of a foreign government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>the people have spoken- wind down with what little honour</p></blockquote>
<p>Uhh..nice try.   The American people would never speak about "honour."  What are you, Canadian?</p>
<p>Stop trying to speak for Americans--your weird spelling exposes you as an agent of a foreign government.</p>
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		<title>By: cian</title>
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		<dc:creator>cian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While it is the president&#039;s war it is being waged at the peoples&#039; expense and no matter how you skin the November election, the people have spoken- wind down with what little honour is left to muster and do your best for the ordinary Iraqi caught up in this conflagration of America&#039;s making, but no more US lives lost for a cause that no longer makes any sense to a resounding majority of our citizens.

There is no winning to this war. America&#039;s involvement is over (put it in brackets- 2003-2006). The battle is now between Shia and Sunni. A Shia Saddam will appear (or has already, as many believe, in the shape of Muqtada al-Sadr) and the Sunni will be persecuted. To withdraw leaving millions of innocent Iraqis at the mercy of raging sectarian gangs is dishonourable and a disgrace. To continue sacrificing the lives of American soldiers for what can only be described as a face saving exercise for this president and his supporters, would be nothing short of criminal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While it is the president's war it is being waged at the peoples' expense and no matter how you skin the November election, the people have spoken- wind down with what little honour is left to muster and do your best for the ordinary Iraqi caught up in this conflagration of America's making, but no more US lives lost for a cause that no longer makes any sense to a resounding majority of our citizens.</p>
<p>There is no winning to this war. America's involvement is over (put it in brackets- 2003-2006). The battle is now between Shia and Sunni. A Shia Saddam will appear (or has already, as many believe, in the shape of Muqtada al-Sadr) and the Sunni will be persecuted. To withdraw leaving millions of innocent Iraqis at the mercy of raging sectarian gangs is dishonourable and a disgrace. To continue sacrificing the lives of American soldiers for what can only be described as a face saving exercise for this president and his supporters, would be nothing short of criminal</p>
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