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		<title>By: Adam's Blog</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Pork Continues...&lt;/strong&gt;

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<p>Despite Democrat promises, the pork continues&#8230;More people forced to pay the Jock Tax&#8230;Bloomberg doing the right thing on education&#8230;Mourning on Thanksgiving&#8230;A man in Michigan stops complaining and does something&#8230;A new soluti...</p>
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		<title>By: zuzu</title>
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		<dc:creator>zuzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 22:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, you need to start doing some basic research on this stuff.

I already gave you the documents.  Kerry enlisted as a reserve officer with an active duty commitment.

His active duty started shortly after graduation.  He attended OCS and was assigned to a destroyer.  Then he volunteered for Swift Boats in Vietnam.

He was not in some sort of reserve unit that got &quot;called up.&quot;  As I said, most if not all naval officers serving at that time were reserve officers like Kerry, unless they were commissioned out of the Naval Academy.

Really, please do some research.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, you need to start doing some basic research on this stuff.</p>
<p>I already gave you the documents.  Kerry enlisted as a reserve officer with an active duty commitment.</p>
<p>His active duty started shortly after graduation.  He attended OCS and was assigned to a destroyer.  Then he volunteered for Swift Boats in Vietnam.</p>
<p>He was not in some sort of reserve unit that got "called up."  As I said, most if not all naval officers serving at that time were reserve officers like Kerry, unless they were commissioned out of the Naval Academy.</p>
<p>Really, please do some research.</p>
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		<title>By: davod</title>
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		<dc:creator>davod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 22:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did he volunteer or was his unit called up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did he volunteer or was his unit called up.</p>
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		<title>By: zuzu</title>
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		<dc:creator>zuzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Copy of Kerry&#039;s Officer Candidate Agreement, obligating him to three years of active duty service:

http://fl1.findlaw.com/news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/jkerry/offcandagr.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Copy of Kerry's Officer Candidate Agreement, obligating him to three years of active duty service:</p>
<p><a href="http://fl1.findlaw.com/news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/jkerry/offcandagr.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://fl1.findlaw.com/news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/jkerry/offcandagr.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: zuzu</title>
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		<dc:creator>zuzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, no.

Kerry joined the reserves while in college.  The contract had a three year active duty commitment, which he fulfilled shortly after graduation.

During his active duty he volunteered for Vietnam.

After he was released from active duty he was transferred to the Individual Ready Reserve and then to the Standby Reserve - Inactive.

http://fl1.findlaw.com/news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/jkerry/trnsfr2stndyrsrv.pdf

http://fl1.findlaw.com/news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/jkerry/trnsfr2stndyrsrv.pdf

Unless they graduated from the USNA, most naval officers in those days were reserve officers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, no.</p>
<p>Kerry joined the reserves while in college.  The contract had a three year active duty commitment, which he fulfilled shortly after graduation.</p>
<p>During his active duty he volunteered for Vietnam.</p>
<p>After he was released from active duty he was transferred to the Individual Ready Reserve and then to the Standby Reserve - Inactive.</p>
<p><a href="http://fl1.findlaw.com/news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/jkerry/trnsfr2stndyrsrv.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://fl1.findlaw.com/news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/jkerry/trnsfr2stndyrsrv.pdf</a></p>
<p><a href="http://fl1.findlaw.com/news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/jkerry/trnsfr2stndyrsrv.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://fl1.findlaw.com/news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/jkerry/trnsfr2stndyrsrv.pdf</a></p>
<p>Unless they graduated from the USNA, most naval officers in those days were reserve officers.</p>
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		<title>By: Kerry Vows to Disprove Swift Boat Claims - Page 18 - Debate Politics Forums</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kerry Vows to Disprove Swift Boat Claims - Page 18 - Debate Politics Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002   Where did you hear that?           Famed oilman T. Boone Pickens has offered $1 million to anyone who can disprove claims my by the Swi... [...]</description>
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		<title>By: davod</title>
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		<dc:creator>davod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I recall Kerry was in the reserves and had the distinction of being in a navy unit that got activated.

Lets see Bush was in the ANG flying interceptors against Soviet intrusions and Kerry joined the navy reserve with little prospect of being activated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I recall Kerry was in the reserves and had the distinction of being in a navy unit that got activated.</p>
<p>Lets see Bush was in the ANG flying interceptors against Soviet intrusions and Kerry joined the navy reserve with little prospect of being activated.</p>
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		<title>By: Zuzu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zuzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 03:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kerry was in the Individual Ready Reserves and then the Standby Reserves.  No drilling requirement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kerry was in the Individual Ready Reserves and then the Standby Reserves.  No drilling requirement.</p>
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		<title>By: davod</title>
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		<dc:creator>davod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 20:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe he would like to see if Kery missed any drills?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe he would like to see if Kery missed any drills?</p>
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		<title>By: LaurenceB</title>
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		<dc:creator>LaurenceB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would Pickens want military records from &quot;1971-1978&quot;?  Kerry served in Vietnam in the 60&#039;s.  Weird.

In any case, it&#039;s truly sad that anyone still believes the Smear Boat Veterans.  What a world we live in.  (sigh)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would Pickens want military records from "1971-1978"?  Kerry served in Vietnam in the 60's.  Weird.</p>
<p>In any case, it's truly sad that anyone still believes the Smear Boat Veterans.  What a world we live in.  (sigh)</p>
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		<title>By: The Pink Flamingo</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Pink Flamingo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 06:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Zuzu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zuzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 05:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Posted by vnjagvet: &quot;IMO, his records during that period are most relevant to the total picture.&quot;

They may be relevant to your idea of the total picture, but they would only be relevant to a claim about his reserve duty that he was refuting.   Period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posted by vnjagvet: "IMO, his records during that period are most relevant to the total picture."</p>
<p>They may be relevant to your idea of the total picture, but they would only be relevant to a claim about his reserve duty that he was refuting.   Period.</p>
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		<title>By: vnjagvet</title>
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		<dc:creator>vnjagvet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 01:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason Kerry&#039;s records for his Reserve Duty from 1971-1978 is relevant because it was during that period that he conducted his overt pro-NVA activities, including meeting with NVA diplomats in Paris.  It was those activities &lt;strong&gt;while still an officer in the Naval Reserve&lt;/strong&gt; that incensed VN vets like me and my contemporaries.

My informal (and admittedly unscientific) polling of those who I know who also served in RVN yielded about an 80/20 vote against Kerry as Presidential timber.

Among RVN vets of my acquaintance, Kerry&#039;s activities &lt;strong&gt;while still an oficer in the Naval Reserve&lt;/strong&gt; were the most often cited reasons for anti-Kerry attitudes.

IMO, his records during that period are most relevant to the total picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason Kerry's records for his Reserve Duty from 1971-1978 is relevant because it was during that period that he conducted his overt pro-NVA activities, including meeting with NVA diplomats in Paris.  It was those activities <strong>while still an officer in the Naval Reserve</strong> that incensed VN vets like me and my contemporaries.</p>
<p>My informal (and admittedly unscientific) polling of those who I know who also served in RVN yielded about an 80/20 vote against Kerry as Presidential timber.</p>
<p>Among RVN vets of my acquaintance, Kerry's activities <strong>while still an oficer in the Naval Reserve</strong> were the most often cited reasons for anti-Kerry attitudes.</p>
<p>IMO, his records during that period are most relevant to the total picture.</p>
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		<title>By: The World According To Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>The World According To Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a hearty and positively politically incorrect &#8220;Ho-ho-ho!&#8221; to readers from Outside the Beltway, Stop the ACLU, The Virtuous Republic, Perri Nelson&#8217;s Website, Rosemary&#8217;s Thoughts, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: davod</title>
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		<dc:creator>davod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joyner:

&quot;Kerry led men in combat in Vietnam, was wounded, and awarded the country&#039;s third highest medal for gallantry. Bush underwent pilot training and showed up for the occasional weekend Guard drill.&quot;

Grow up. Your sarcasm reflects your bias.  I do not recall Bush being critical of Kerry&#039;s service.  In fact, I recall him more than once praising Kerry for his service and denigrating the efforts of the Swift Boat people.

You conveniently left out the role of the ANG in your comments. The defense of the United States against intruders.  The 60s was hardly a time when this was considered an insignificant task.
Flying a interceptor might be considered integral to this task.

The majority of US military forces were in the same boat as Bush.  Unless you volunteered,and their are some who were there who said Bush did volunteer, and were accepted, you go where they send you (In the latter half of the 60s the ANG had 22 Fighter Interceptor squadrons. During the Vietnam war the ANG activated 4 fighter squadrons to go to Vietnam and two to go to Korea for a total of  10,676 personnel.)
 
I would suggest that a good proportion of the US military went where they were posted and never served in Vietnam. 

Then again, you may just be throwing Bush into your post to increase the number of posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joyner:</p>
<p>"Kerry led men in combat in Vietnam, was wounded, and awarded the country's third highest medal for gallantry. Bush underwent pilot training and showed up for the occasional weekend Guard drill."</p>
<p>Grow up. Your sarcasm reflects your bias.  I do not recall Bush being critical of Kerry's service.  In fact, I recall him more than once praising Kerry for his service and denigrating the efforts of the Swift Boat people.</p>
<p>You conveniently left out the role of the ANG in your comments. The defense of the United States against intruders.  The 60s was hardly a time when this was considered an insignificant task.<br />
Flying a interceptor might be considered integral to this task.</p>
<p>The majority of US military forces were in the same boat as Bush.  Unless you volunteered,and their are some who were there who said Bush did volunteer, and were accepted, you go where they send you (In the latter half of the 60s the ANG had 22 Fighter Interceptor squadrons. During the Vietnam war the ANG activated 4 fighter squadrons to go to Vietnam and two to go to Korea for a total of  10,676 personnel.)</p>
<p>I would suggest that a good proportion of the US military went where they were posted and never served in Vietnam. </p>
<p>Then again, you may just be throwing Bush into your post to increase the number of posts.</p>
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