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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/language_and_the_war_on_terror/comment-page-1/#comment-92992</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 21:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So what is the arabic term for these editor SOBs fighting the Jihad with their irhabist brethren?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You mean fighting the &lt;em&gt;hirabah&lt;/em&gt;, not so easy to change is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So what is the arabic term for these editor SOBs fighting the Jihad with their irhabist brethren?</p></blockquote>
<p>You mean fighting the <em>hirabah</em>, not so easy to change is it?</p>
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		<title>By: Old War Dogs</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/language_and_the_war_on_terror/comment-page-1/#comment-92947</link>
		<dc:creator>Old War Dogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Two you shoud read at OTB...&lt;/strong&gt;

American Muslims First Line of Defense Against Jihadists James Fallows declares that we have won the war against the terrorists in the cover story of this month’s Atlantic Monthly. One of the key reasons given will be quite controversial: the...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Two you shoud read at OTB...</strong></p>
<p>American Muslims First Line of Defense Against Jihadists James Fallows declares that we have won the war against the terrorists in the cover story of this month&rsquo;s Atlantic Monthly. One of the key reasons given will be quite controversial: the...</p>
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		<title>By: LJD</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/language_and_the_war_on_terror/comment-page-1/#comment-92915</link>
		<dc:creator>LJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Editors would not view this as elucidation but rather as assisting in a US propaganda program. Quite perversely, I can see the editors refusing - - on principle, no less - - to call the irhabists what they really are. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

So what is the arabic term for these editor SOBs fighting the Jihad with their irhabist brethren?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Editors would not view this as elucidation but rather as assisting in a US propaganda program. Quite perversely, I can see the editors refusing - - on principle, no less - - to call the irhabists what they really are. </p></blockquote>
<p>So what is the arabic term for these editor SOBs fighting the Jihad with their irhabist brethren?</p>
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		<title>By: Gollum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gollum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James - Curious as to what your original motive was for using the Arabic terms and also whether you are considering Guirard&#039;s suggestion for future reference.  Could you tease that out a little more?

My own thought is that Guirard&#039;s idea is smart but unlikely to catch on.  My recollection seems to be that for the first full year or so and even longer after 9/11 every occurrence of &quot;jihad&quot; in the news media was followed by its translation, same with mujahideen, shira, and my personal favorite from Afghanistan, the loya jirga.  I think editors tolerated this use of columninches almost out of necessity, to help its English-speaking readers understand what the jihadists were calling themselves.

A similar effort involving application of our own labels has, however, a different purpose, which is helping us understand what we ourselves are now calling them.  Editors would not view this as elucidation but rather as assisting in a US propaganda program.  Quite perversely, I can see the editors refusing - - on principle, no less - - to call the irhabists what they really are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James - Curious as to what your original motive was for using the Arabic terms and also whether you are considering Guirard's suggestion for future reference.  Could you tease that out a little more?</p>
<p>My own thought is that Guirard's idea is smart but unlikely to catch on.  My recollection seems to be that for the first full year or so and even longer after 9/11 every occurrence of "jihad" in the news media was followed by its translation, same with mujahideen, shira, and my personal favorite from Afghanistan, the loya jirga.  I think editors tolerated this use of columninches almost out of necessity, to help its English-speaking readers understand what the jihadists were calling themselves.</p>
<p>A similar effort involving application of our own labels has, however, a different purpose, which is helping us understand what we ourselves are now calling them.  Editors would not view this as elucidation but rather as assisting in a US propaganda program.  Quite perversely, I can see the editors refusing - - on principle, no less - - to call the irhabists what they really are.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting, though that in it&#039;s own way, this exemplifies the importance of winning the propaganda war as McQ mentioned the other day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's interesting, though that in it's own way, this exemplifies the importance of winning the propaganda war as McQ mentioned the other day.</p>
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		<title>By: Conservative Outpost</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/language_and_the_war_on_terror/comment-page-1/#comment-92905</link>
		<dc:creator>Conservative Outpost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Daily Summary...&lt;/strong&gt;

NEWS: - Senate rejects estate, minimum wage bill - Rice Signals Possible Compromise to Reach Cease-Fire - Israel&#039;s Resolve to Take Out Hezbollah Questioned - Bush urges Cubans to work for democracy - Cuba Addresses Washington - Data Contradicts Notion...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Daily Summary...</strong></p>
<p>NEWS: - Senate rejects estate, minimum wage bill - Rice Signals Possible Compromise to Reach Cease-Fire - Israel's Resolve to Take Out Hezbollah Questioned - Bush urges Cubans to work for democracy - Cuba Addresses Washington - Data Contradicts Notion...</p>
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		<title>By: Blogniscient</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blogniscient</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;Michelle Malkin &#124; 8/3/2006 1:47:4    These stills are from a BBC comedy called &quot;Time Trumpet&quot; (big hat tip - Steve J). The show features a satirical &quot;Terrorism Awards&quot; show with nominees i...  12[IMG Right] Language and the War on Terror &lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
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