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	<title>Comments on: Larry Craig and Right Wing Hypocrisy</title>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/larry_craig_and_right_wing_hypocrisy/comment-page-1/#comment-145213</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn’t be able to say too much as regards his integrity, but if you really wanted to save his job, he could have taken the path of Gary Condit, Gary Hart, Ted Kennedy, (ANd for that matter, Patrick Kennedy, too) Bill Clinton, Gavin Newsom and Jim McGreevey, Gary Studds, Barney Frank, and so many others as to make the point a repetitive one.

Oh, wait, he &lt;strong&gt;did&lt;/strong&gt; that. The people I’ve listed here didn’t shut up, either. Of course, the louder they streamed, the louder the democratic party as a whole screamed, too. Of course, it was labeled as “understanding”.

Hmmm.
Perhaps the what is being illustrated here is the difference between the Republican party as a whole, and the Democrats;

When the Democrats that I’ve listed above, were caught in their particular misdeeds, instead of being kicked out, they were reelected. 

Indeed, to get removed from office once elected while being a Democrat, one would have to do one of two things; they would have to do a Michael Vick on a handful of puppies and kittens, or they would have to have a reputation for going against the Democrat lockstep, as James Trafficant did. Or, Joe Lieberman.

Getting the picture, yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&rsquo;t be able to say too much as regards his integrity, but if you really wanted to save his job, he could have taken the path of Gary Condit, Gary Hart, Ted Kennedy, (ANd for that matter, Patrick Kennedy, too) Bill Clinton, Gavin Newsom and Jim McGreevey, Gary Studds, Barney Frank, and so many others as to make the point a repetitive one.</p>
<p>Oh, wait, he <strong>did</strong> that. The people I&rsquo;ve listed here didn&rsquo;t shut up, either. Of course, the louder they streamed, the louder the democratic party as a whole screamed, too. Of course, it was labeled as “understanding”.</p>
<p>Hmmm.<br />
Perhaps the what is being illustrated here is the difference between the Republican party as a whole, and the Democrats;</p>
<p>When the Democrats that I&rsquo;ve listed above, were caught in their particular misdeeds, instead of being kicked out, they were reelected. </p>
<p>Indeed, to get removed from office once elected while being a Democrat, one would have to do one of two things; they would have to do a Michael Vick on a handful of puppies and kittens, or they would have to have a reputation for going against the Democrat lockstep, as James Trafficant did. Or, Joe Lieberman.</p>
<p>Getting the picture, yet?</p>
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		<title>By: bains</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/larry_craig_and_right_wing_hypocrisy/comment-page-1/#comment-144817</link>
		<dc:creator>bains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 21:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;...my guess is that if Craig were hanging out in the stalls of a woman’s restroom engaging in similar conduct, there would be more outrage, not less.&lt;/blockquote&gt;  Seems I recall a number of people raging on that allegations of groping were enough to preclude an actor from becoming a Governer.  You think if those women consented and enjoyed it they would refer to it as groping?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>...my guess is that if Craig were hanging out in the stalls of a woman&rsquo;s restroom engaging in similar conduct, there would be more outrage, not less.</p></blockquote>
<p>  Seems I recall a number of people raging on that allegations of groping were enough to preclude an actor from becoming a Governer.  You think if those women consented and enjoyed it they would refer to it as groping?</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/larry_craig_and_right_wing_hypocrisy/comment-page-1/#comment-144566</link>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Do you mean &quot;far less&quot;?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes. Corrected now.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Why not just own up to the hypocrisy and the party-trumps-all mentality and move on?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Because that&#039;s not what I believe happened, as explained in the post.  There may be people who made that calculation but that&#039;s not what I&#039;ve done.  The cases are markedly different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Do you mean "far less"?</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes. Corrected now.</p>
<blockquote><p>Why not just own up to the hypocrisy and the party-trumps-all mentality and move on?</p></blockquote>
<p>Because that's not what I believe happened, as explained in the post.  There may be people who made that calculation but that's not what I've done.  The cases are markedly different.</p>
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		<title>By: madmatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>madmatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Rogers was threatening to destroy the lives of people who held a secret they feared making public, who were causing little harm in holding that secret, simply to make political points for a cause&quot;  

So Rogers was telling the truth about a hypocritical little secret that allows Craig to vote in the Senate to hurt millions of americans who are just trying to live their lives...which act is more despicable...the one that effects millions or the one that effects an individual family?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Rogers was threatening to destroy the lives of people who held a secret they feared making public, who were causing little harm in holding that secret, simply to make political points for a cause"  </p>
<p>So Rogers was telling the truth about a hypocritical little secret that allows Craig to vote in the Senate to hurt millions of americans who are just trying to live their lives...which act is more despicable...the one that effects millions or the one that effects an individual family?</p>
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		<title>By: SavageView</title>
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		<dc:creator>SavageView</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Greenwald also notes that the recent news that David Vitter was having sex with a prostitute garnered far more outrage and ascribes this to homophobia.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Do you mean &quot;far less&quot;?  Why not just own up to the hypocrisy and the party-trumps-all mentality and move on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Greenwald also notes that the recent news that David Vitter was having sex with a prostitute garnered far more outrage and ascribes this to homophobia.</p></blockquote>
<p>Do you mean "far less"?  Why not just own up to the hypocrisy and the party-trumps-all mentality and move on?</p>
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