Comments on: Lebanon Asks for UN Cease-fire as Total Middle East War Looms

By: jodie khourshid

jodie khourshid — Thu, 20 Jul 2006 20:29:38 +0000

it makes you wonder over the years of fighting between Israel and Palestine what has been happing to the Palestinians behind closed doors while the world is sleeping.
Israel has no right to attack a country, (which in turn has many innocent people) on the bases of terrorism acts as its not the country at fault.
we all have terrorist breeding in all of our country's ie Tymothy McVeigh. but we cant go and attack con tries and demolish the land.
Israel are attacking a country weaker than they are!
let them try a bigger country next time and see where it gets them.
but then again they have always go the USA to help

By: Bithead

Bithead — Sun, 16 Jul 2006 16:31:08 +0000

But for how long without external support?

By: Christopher

Christopher — Sun, 16 Jul 2006 16:02:29 +0000

Read "6 days of War" by Michael B. Oren, and you will see exactly how tough the Israelis can be!

By: Bithead

Bithead — Sun, 16 Jul 2006 15:59:41 +0000

There is much in the way of history which lends credence to this theory. The fall of the Shah for example, And the militant Islamics which sprung up in their place. The Chechnya situation, and the Strength of response that Puten was forced to use. The Somalian situation. The Taliban in Afghanistan. All of these lend credence to the idea that with militant Islamics in place, even outside of government, rational governments cannot stand.

It is in the best interests of these so called moderate Islamic governments to wage war against Hamas and Hezbollah and win. I say again the future existence of these governments, of these countries, depends on it.

By: Bithead

Bithead — Sun, 16 Jul 2006 15:51:50 +0000

Yes, it does.
The largest one of which is American leftists.

Do you really think that sans American support, the Israelis would survive for fifteen minutes? I don't, and neither do they. More, removal of said support would send exactly the wrong message to an enemy intent on having the entire world under the crescent.

The fact of the matter is is that there is no moderate government in the Middle East at the moment that would withstand Hamas being turned loose. It's really that simple. This is not merely a military judgment but a political one, as well. I'm not talking about the parent country is going to war with Hamas and Hezbollah on behalf of Israel. I'm suggesting that they better start considering doing it for themselves. If that happens to place them in alliance with Israel temporarily, so much the better.

By: Jim Henley

Jim Henley — Sun, 16 Jul 2006 15:10:51 +0000

Bithead, your response is too full of logical fallacies for me to know quite where to start. I'm sure you've got a perfectly logical plan for dealing with some alternate dimension in your mind, but it has nothing to do with life on Earth. Just to get you started: You know all that blather about "Jacksonians?" Do you think we're the only country that has them? We're not. Every country has them. Meanwhile you've somehow got into your head that the preeminent military power in the Middle East is somehow facing an existential threat.

By: Bithead

Bithead — Sun, 16 Jul 2006 14:36:20 +0000

Oh, and how would they do that, precisely? Maybe by abridging civil liberties at home and locking up or killing all the Islamists they can get their hands on?

Look, they're already being charged with abusing civil liberties... what would be the loss?

A lot of them have already tried that. (Egypt, Jordan, SA, even Syria blasted hell out of its chapter of the Muslim Brotherhood.)

Well, they made a show out of looking like they were trying, yes.

Or do you want Egypt, Jordan, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Bahrain to actually go to war with Hezbollah and Hamas on behalf of Israel? Because the term for that isnâ��t â��moderate.â�� Thatâ��s called being allied.

The word 'moderate' in the context you've placed it here, expresses the though that there is any half-way with Hezbollah and Hamas. History seems to indicate nothing of the sort. So, yes, I want them to ally themselves with Israel against Hezbollah and Hamas, because in the end all their existance depends on it... and yes, I think that's what it really comes down to. Because, (think, now...) do you really consider that once Israel is out of the way, these suppsoedly 'moderate' governments will be allowed to stand by Hezbollah and Hamas? Or, for that matter, anyone else?

By: Conservative Cat

Conservative Cat — Sun, 16 Jul 2006 07:07:43 +0000

Of Course You Realize This Means War...

It's no longer possible to pretend that Israel is engaged in a military strike against terrorists. Martial law is in effect in the north, and Hezbollah is firing missiles deeper into Israeli territory. This is a full-scale war. Lebanese Prime......

By: NOTR

NOTR — Sun, 16 Jul 2006 05:30:04 +0000

Geesh! If were about the Lebanese "Government" it would never have been an issue. But is never was, and it IS an issue. But the heart of it goest to Teheran and Damascus.

By: Christopher

Christopher — Sun, 16 Jul 2006 02:56:09 +0000

LOL!

Daniel, Israel has supported a Palestinian state! But the Palestinians want it ALL! They won't agree to anything less than their demands which is more and more territory. They are CRAZY! And of it takes bombing them into submission, then I guess that is what it takes.

By: Daniel DiRito

Daniel DiRito — Sun, 16 Jul 2006 01:39:46 +0000

As to the current problems that have spiraled into a near full scale regional war, Iâ??m convinced that the solution to the many issues rests solely upon one defining problemâ?¦from which all others emanate and from which all others can be resolved. In fact, in what some may call my fanciful Hollywood formulaic prescription, one particular movie quotation seems to capture the essence of my proposed story lineâ?¦â??If you build it, they will comeâ??. The â??itâ?? is none other than a Palestinian state.

Read an analysis on the Middle East that posits that the solution to the regions turmoil rests in the immediate creation of an independent Palestinian state...here:

http://www.thoughttheater.com

By: Jim Henley

Jim Henley — Sun, 16 Jul 2006 00:30:09 +0000

Oh, and how would they do that, precisely? Maybe by abridging civil liberties at home and locking up or killing all the Islamists they can get their hands on? A lot of them have already tried that. (Egypt, Jordan, SA, even Syria blasted hell out of its chapter of the Muslim Brotherhood.) Maybe it's even worked to an extent. Maybe it's bred more terrorists. Maybe it's just shifted them around. Or do you want Egypt, Jordan, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Bahrain to actually go to war with Hezbollah and Hamas on behalf of Israel? Because the term for that isn't "moderate." That's called being allied.

By: Bithead

Bithead — Sat, 15 Jul 2006 22:42:16 +0000

Suggestion to Jim Henley:

How about (Hmmmm...) Stopping the islamic terrorists?

By: Jim Henley

Jim Henley — Sat, 15 Jul 2006 22:19:00 +0000

James, you quote a story which reports that pretty much every Arab state of any consequence except Syria has blamed Hezbollah for roiling the region in an inter-Arab meeting, then conclude the entry talking about "so-called" moderate states. What would they have to do to drop the "so-called" modifier?

By: Herb

Herb — Sat, 15 Jul 2006 21:35:43 +0000

With the petition by Lebanon to the UN, This war should last for another 5 to 6 years or until Israel completely eliminates Hezbollah. The UN, as everyone has witnessed, couldn't move off the toilet that quickly, even if the toilet had a bomb under it with a 6 month fuse.

Any Nation seeking anything at the UN will go down the tubes waiting for the UN to act. That is, unless there was a few million dollars in it for the members to steal.