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	<title>Comments on: Lieberman Wins Nomination, But Lamont Forces Primary!</title>
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		<title>By: rachelrachel</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/lieberman_wins_nomination_but_lamont_forces_primary/comment-page-1/#comment-84317</link>
		<dc:creator>rachelrachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 May 2006 04:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Ned Lamont exceeded even Joeâ��s inflated expectation of 30%&lt;/strong&gt;

If Lamont exceeded 30%, then the expectation wasn&#039;t inflated, was it?

Idiots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Ned Lamont exceeded even Joeâ��s inflated expectation of 30%</strong></p>
<p>If Lamont exceeded 30%, then the expectation wasn't inflated, was it?</p>
<p>Idiots.</p>
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		<title>By: Scrutator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scrutator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2006 14:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;a tough day for one of the good guys...&lt;/strong&gt;

	As you may have heard, Joe Lieberman now has a challenger  for the Democratic nomination for his old and current Senate seat in Connecticut.  Ned Lamont received about 33% of the votes in what I would describe as a moonbat insurrection.  
	Tom Watson ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>a tough day for one of the good guys...</strong></p>
<p>	As you may have heard, Joe Lieberman now has a challenger  for the Democratic nomination for his old and current Senate seat in Connecticut.  Ned Lamont received about 33% of the votes in what I would describe as a moonbat insurrection.<br />
	Tom Watson ...</p>
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		<title>By: yetanotherjohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>yetanotherjohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 18:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps the bit about Lieberman being the nominee is just them &quot;getting out ahead of the news cycle&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the bit about Lieberman being the nominee is just them "getting out ahead of the news cycle".</p>
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		<title>By: fester</title>
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		<dc:creator>fester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 18:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a Democratic partisan who has done a tiny, tiny bit of work for the Lamont campaign, and have sent money.  I need to disclaim that before I go further.

This was a victory for the Lamont campaign for the reasons Lily noted above --- and it is also likely going to be in a losing cause if the definition of winning is seeing Senator Ned next January.  However, one of the main pushes behind the Lamont run is to start installing progressive incentives into the calculations of Democratic politicians in much the same way that the Club for Growth has installed strong anti-tax incentives for Republican politicians.  The Club for Growth has power and policy sway within the GOP despite the fact that its primary challengers to GOP incumbents very, very rarely win.  However the threat of a serious, credible and well run primary challenge is often enough to make an incumbent to backdown, and even after they survive it, they don&#039;t want to face a double campaign every cycle and toe the line better (See Arlen Specter after he beat Toomey.)  If Lamont can approximate Toomey&#039;s performance and the end result is a weakened Lieberman who is less inclined to play political arbitage against the rest of the Democratic Party for his own personal gain, than that is a net win for progressives.  

Yes, of course, the best case scenario for the netroots is Senator Ned next January, but there are wins of various degrees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm a Democratic partisan who has done a tiny, tiny bit of work for the Lamont campaign, and have sent money.  I need to disclaim that before I go further.</p>
<p>This was a victory for the Lamont campaign for the reasons Lily noted above --- and it is also likely going to be in a losing cause if the definition of winning is seeing Senator Ned next January.  However, one of the main pushes behind the Lamont run is to start installing progressive incentives into the calculations of Democratic politicians in much the same way that the Club for Growth has installed strong anti-tax incentives for Republican politicians.  The Club for Growth has power and policy sway within the GOP despite the fact that its primary challengers to GOP incumbents very, very rarely win.  However the threat of a serious, credible and well run primary challenge is often enough to make an incumbent to backdown, and even after they survive it, they don't want to face a double campaign every cycle and toe the line better (See Arlen Specter after he beat Toomey.)  If Lamont can approximate Toomey's performance and the end result is a weakened Lieberman who is less inclined to play political arbitage against the rest of the Democratic Party for his own personal gain, than that is a net win for progressives.  </p>
<p>Yes, of course, the best case scenario for the netroots is Senator Ned next January, but there are wins of various degrees.</p>
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		<title>By: baric</title>
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		<dc:creator>baric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 03:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If Lieberman had scraped through with 51%, then there might be a story hereâ�¦&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Right... 51% is close enough to be a story, while 52% is a &quot;mandate&quot;

I think this main issue here is that Lamont was a political unknown just 4 months ago and now he has drawn 1/3 of the Democratic delegates in the CT Senate race.

If this were the primary, it &lt;i&gt;would&lt;/i&gt; be a crushing defeat for Lamont. But the primary is 4 months away, and going from &quot;unknown&quot; to 33% in just 4 months certainly has the Lieberman worried about what is going to happen in August.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If Lieberman had scraped through with 51%, then there might be a story hereâ�¦</p></blockquote>
<p>Right... 51% is close enough to be a story, while 52% is a "mandate"</p>
<p>I think this main issue here is that Lamont was a political unknown just 4 months ago and now he has drawn 1/3 of the Democratic delegates in the CT Senate race.</p>
<p>If this were the primary, it <i>would</i> be a crushing defeat for Lamont. But the primary is 4 months away, and going from "unknown" to 33% in just 4 months certainly has the Lieberman worried about what is going to happen in August.</p>
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		<title>By: thirdparty</title>
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		<dc:creator>thirdparty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 01:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your link to LamontBlog describes it as &lt;em&gt;&quot;His Lamontâ��sown blog&quot;&lt;/em&gt; (sic).

But at the very top of the page is this disclaimer in big, bold letters:

&lt;strong&gt;(This website is unauthorized and unfunded by any campaign or campaign committee.)&lt;/strong&gt;

I&#039;m very interested in why right-wing blogs care so much about taking Lieberman&#039;s side in what is a closed Democratic primary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your link to LamontBlog describes it as <em>"His Lamontâ��sown blog"</em> (sic).</p>
<p>But at the very top of the page is this disclaimer in big, bold letters:</p>
<p><strong>(This website is unauthorized and unfunded by any campaign or campaign committee.)</strong></p>
<p>I'm very interested in why right-wing blogs care so much about taking Lieberman's side in what is a closed Democratic primary.</p>
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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 22:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s see, how does that old sports aphorism go? Oh yes, statistics are for losers.  And Kos and his friends are geekier than SABREmetricians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let's see, how does that old sports aphorism go? Oh yes, statistics are for losers.  And Kos and his friends are geekier than SABREmetricians.</p>
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		<title>By: Tano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 17:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excuse me?

A political unknown runs against a sitting three term senator, former VP nominee, one of the most well-known pols in America, and gets a third of the vote from the guy&#039;s own party faithful, and that is not a remarkable story? Especially given the sense that everyone has about where the momentum in this race is going?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me?</p>
<p>A political unknown runs against a sitting three term senator, former VP nominee, one of the most well-known pols in America, and gets a third of the vote from the guy's own party faithful, and that is not a remarkable story? Especially given the sense that everyone has about where the momentum in this race is going?</p>
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		<title>By: The Moderate Voice</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Moderate Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 16:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Two More Views Of The Lamont Lieberman Showdown In Connecticut...&lt;/strong&gt;

The big news and cause for many progressives continues to be how Ned Lamont has forced Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman into a primary. There are many excellent (and often highly emotional on both sides) takes on this battle.

Here are ......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Two More Views Of The Lamont Lieberman Showdown In Connecticut...</strong></p>
<p>The big news and cause for many progressives continues to be how Ned Lamont has forced Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman into a primary. There are many excellent (and often highly emotional on both sides) takes on this battle.</p>
<p>Here are ......</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 06:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well stated, Lily. For those interested in learning, you do a good job of explaining why Lamont&#039;s results can be viewed as a victory for him and his supporters. Your explanation of Lieberman&#039;s offensiveness to most Dems nationally goes without saying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well stated, Lily. For those interested in learning, you do a good job of explaining why Lamont's results can be viewed as a victory for him and his supporters. Your explanation of Lieberman's offensiveness to most Dems nationally goes without saying.</p>
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		<title>By: G A Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>G A Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2006 23:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lily, as if not being a Donkocrat is a bad thing, you got one smart dude in your whole worthless party and you disown him, lol, lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lily, as if not being a Donkocrat is a bad thing, you got one smart dude in your whole worthless party and you disown him, lol, lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Schuler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2006 22:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, indeedy.  In the netroots world defeat is victory.  Also, war is peace, freedom is slavery, and ignorance is strength.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, indeedy.  In the netroots world defeat is victory.  Also, war is peace, freedom is slavery, and ignorance is strength.</p>
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		<title>By: lily</title>
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		<dc:creator>lily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2006 21:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Connecticut is a &quot;machine&quot; state and the Lamont campaign never expected more than 5%.  Their plan all along has been to run as a write-in on the assumption that they wouldn&#039;t get enough delegates to force a primary.  So, with that in mind, it is a victory.  I&#039;m thrilled since I&#039;m one of the people who sent Lamont money.
Iraq isn&#039;t the only issue.  In fact, for me, it isn&#039;t an important issue at all. I&#039;m far more offended by Leiberman&#039;s constant presence on Faux, repeating Republican talking points against the party he purports to part of, his votes on bankruptcy and other issues, and his wingnut statement about rape victims just trotting off to another hospital if they can&#039;t get help from a Catholic facility.  As far as I&#039;m concerned, he isn&#039;t a Democrat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Connecticut is a "machine" state and the Lamont campaign never expected more than 5%.  Their plan all along has been to run as a write-in on the assumption that they wouldn't get enough delegates to force a primary.  So, with that in mind, it is a victory.  I'm thrilled since I'm one of the people who sent Lamont money.<br />
Iraq isn't the only issue.  In fact, for me, it isn't an important issue at all. I'm far more offended by Leiberman's constant presence on Faux, repeating Republican talking points against the party he purports to part of, his votes on bankruptcy and other issues, and his wingnut statement about rape victims just trotting off to another hospital if they can't get help from a Catholic facility.  As far as I'm concerned, he isn't a Democrat.</p>
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		<title>By: John Burgess</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Burgess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2006 21:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Except in places like the former Iraq and Sierra Leone, a 2/3-majority win (even for an incumbent) is actually pretty good. If Lieberman had scraped through with 51%, then there might be a story here...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except in places like the former Iraq and Sierra Leone, a 2/3-majority win (even for an incumbent) is actually pretty good. If Lieberman had scraped through with 51%, then there might be a story here...</p>
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		<title>By: Kent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2006 20:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;How anyone could consider that a â??crushingâ?? victory is beyond me! Maybe they need a refresher course on their math skills.&lt;/em&gt;

Yeah, it would be interesting to hear Lamont&#039;s views on education and the NEA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>How anyone could consider that a â??crushingâ?? victory is beyond me! Maybe they need a refresher course on their math skills.</em></p>
<p>Yeah, it would be interesting to hear Lamont's views on education and the NEA.</p>
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