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	<title>Comments on: Rush Limbaugh Nets $2.1 Million for &#8216;Phony Soldiers&#8217; Letter</title>
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		<title>By: Leaning Straight Up</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/limbaugh_gets_21_million_for_phony_soldiers_letter/comment-page-1/#comment-196068</link>
		<dc:creator>Leaning Straight Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 08:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Why I hate Public Schools...&lt;/strong&gt;

Another John Stossel pice, this time on why our public schools suck.&#160; Again, a great summary of the problems.
 
Note, it&#039;s long but see it thru, its worth it. 
 
And for people like Ken Schram, who think money is the cure, guess again. 
 
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<p>Another John Stossel pice, this time on why our public schools suck.  Again, a great summary of the problems.</p>
<p>Note, it's long but see it thru, its worth it. </p>
<p>And for people like Ken Schram, who think money is the cure, guess again. </p>
<p>&amp;...</p>
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		<title>By: ringadingding</title>
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		<dc:creator>ringadingding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Bruce Moomaw, except that I don&#039;t think they were saying the war opponents never talk to real soldiers.  I think they were saying the media never talks to real soldiers.  Look at the context.

Don&#039;t forget that Limbaugh called the previous caller, who thought the troops should come home, a phony vet.  The guy said &quot;I used to be military and I&#039;m a Republican.&quot;  Limbaugh responded: &quot;And I used to walk on the moon.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Bruce Moomaw, except that I don't think they were saying the war opponents never talk to real soldiers.  I think they were saying the media never talks to real soldiers.  Look at the context.</p>
<p>Don't forget that Limbaugh called the previous caller, who thought the troops should come home, a phony vet.  The guy said "I used to be military and I'm a Republican."  Limbaugh responded: "And I used to walk on the moon."</p>
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		<title>By: ringadingding</title>
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		<dc:creator>ringadingding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Now, obviously, Owens knows far, far more about tax law than I do. But, rather clearly, this is a charitable donation to the Marine Corps-Law Enforcement Foundation, which is presumably a registered charity, so I’m not sure what the problem is. Perhaps there’s a question of the intrinsic value of the letter?&lt;/em&gt;


The problem is that under the eBay rules, it is the seller who collects the money from the buyer and donates it to charity.  So Rush Limbaugh is taking the Casey Fdn money and giving it to the charity.

The Casey Fdn operates under strict rules that requires nonprofits to use their money only for charitable purposes.  Buying something from Rush Limbaugh probably doesn&#039;t qualify.

Look at it this way, if I bought something at a yard sale and the seller donated the money to the Goodwill, he would get the tax break, not me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Now, obviously, Owens knows far, far more about tax law than I do. But, rather clearly, this is a charitable donation to the Marine Corps-Law Enforcement Foundation, which is presumably a registered charity, so I&rsquo;m not sure what the problem is. Perhaps there&rsquo;s a question of the intrinsic value of the letter?</em></p>
<p>The problem is that under the eBay rules, it is the seller who collects the money from the buyer and donates it to charity.  So Rush Limbaugh is taking the Casey Fdn money and giving it to the charity.</p>
<p>The Casey Fdn operates under strict rules that requires nonprofits to use their money only for charitable purposes.  Buying something from Rush Limbaugh probably doesn't qualify.</p>
<p>Look at it this way, if I bought something at a yard sale and the seller donated the money to the Goodwill, he would get the tax break, not me.</p>
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		<title>By: Woman Honor Thyself</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woman Honor Thyself</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;You say &#8220;HatE SpeecH&#8221;, I say &#8220;TrutH&#8221;...&lt;/strong&gt;

Then along come the Libs buddies. IzlamoNazis, who are a breed unto themselves.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>You say &#8220;HatE SpeecH&#8221;, I say &#8220;TrutH&#8221;...</strong></p>
<p>Then along come the Libs buddies. IzlamoNazis, who are a breed unto themselves.</p>
<p>......</p>
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		<title>By: Nuke&#8217;s News &#38; Views &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Hillary&#8217;s Secret Papers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nuke&#8217;s News &#38; Views &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Hillary&#8217;s Secret Papers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Right Truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Right Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Blog Rush and their Quality Review criteria...&lt;/strong&gt;

In case any fellow bloggers have thought about signing up for BLOG RUSH, a blog syndication site, don&#039;t bother. I signed up, checked it out, and the majority of their syndication consists of &#039;news&#039; like what Paris Hilton or some...</description>
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		<title>By: Steph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 23:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The anti war pro Sharia law websites do not ask for credentials when claiming to be a soldier.  

It&#039;s like the 911 kook sites claiming to be architects or whatever.  Anyone can join them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The anti war pro Sharia law websites do not ask for credentials when claiming to be a soldier.  </p>
<p>It's like the 911 kook sites claiming to be architects or whatever.  Anyone can join them.</p>
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		<title>By: Steph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 22:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Democrats support phony soldiers but don&#039;t support the real ones.

Rush has talked about Metcalf and others quite often and had talked about it during the show.

The caller was referring to these people.

Democrats talk about supporting civil rights.  Unless it&#039;s your right to talk badly about them.  Therefore the call for the Fairness Doctrine. I wonder if they will wear their brown shirts while passing it?  


Because you know it won&#039;t be appled to CNN and MSNBC Bin Laden&#039;s favorite channels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Democrats support phony soldiers but don't support the real ones.</p>
<p>Rush has talked about Metcalf and others quite often and had talked about it during the show.</p>
<p>The caller was referring to these people.</p>
<p>Democrats talk about supporting civil rights.  Unless it's your right to talk badly about them.  Therefore the call for the Fairness Doctrine. I wonder if they will wear their brown shirts while passing it?  </p>
<p>Because you know it won't be appled to CNN and MSNBC Bin Laden's favorite channels.</p>
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		<title>By: Nuke&#8217;s News &#38; Views &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Top 4 Huckabee one-liners</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nuke&#8217;s News &#38; Views &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Top 4 Huckabee one-liners</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 20:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Bay Area Gone Mad &#124; Adam's Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Bay Area Gone Mad &#124; Adam's Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 20:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bruce Moomaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Moomaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 20:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ehould add that -- until L&#039;Affaire Phony came up -- I had never even HEARD of Jesse MacBeth despite my hbit of prowling around liberal sites ad nauseam, which gives you some idea of the real extent to which the liberals have supposedly been covering the man.  

Not that I really object to having Limbaugh yell this sort of thing, at least since I saw last year&#039;s CNN poll giving him a 58-26 negative approval rating.  Evidently every time he opens his yap he provides a few more votes for the Dems, and in fact -- given the fact that the same poll gave Michael J. Fox an 8 to 1 positive rating -- it&#039;s possible that he made the difference in the close Missouri Senate race that put the Senate in Democratic hands.  Go, Rush!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ehould add that -- until L'Affaire Phony came up -- I had never even HEARD of Jesse MacBeth despite my hbit of prowling around liberal sites ad nauseam, which gives you some idea of the real extent to which the liberals have supposedly been covering the man.  </p>
<p>Not that I really object to having Limbaugh yell this sort of thing, at least since I saw last year's CNN poll giving him a 58-26 negative approval rating.  Evidently every time he opens his yap he provides a few more votes for the Dems, and in fact -- given the fact that the same poll gave Michael J. Fox an 8 to 1 positive rating -- it's possible that he made the difference in the close Missouri Senate race that put the Senate in Democratic hands.  Go, Rush!</p>
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		<title>By: 1st Amendment not OK in OK &#171; Wolf Pangloss</title>
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		<dc:creator>1st Amendment not OK in OK &#171; Wolf Pangloss</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Big Dogs Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Dogs Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 16:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Right Voices &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Open Trackback:Louisiana Elects Bobby Jindal(R) As Governor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Right Voices &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Open Trackback:Louisiana Elects Bobby Jindal(R) As Governor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 15:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bruce Moomaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Moomaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 10:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here we go again.  As Steve Benen pointed out at the time, Limbaugh:

(1)  Agreed with his harebrained caller that &quot;They [war opponents] never talk to real soldiers...If you talk to any real soldier, they’re proud to serve, they want to be over in Iraq, they understand their sacrifice and they’re willing to sacrifice for the country&quot;;

(2)  Talked about other subjects for 1 minute and 50 seconds before it occurred to him that he just might get in trouble for that comment, and only then brought up Jesse MacBeth;

(3) &lt;a href=&quot;http://mediamatters.org/items/200709280009&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Released a doctored clip of that conversation &lt;/a&gt;(which he called &quot;the entire segment&quot;) on Sept. 28 to make it look as though there was a gap of only 15 seconds before he brought up MacBeth;

(3)  Then announced that John Murtha (Bronze Star with Valor device, two Purple Hearts, the Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry, and the Navy Distinguished Service Medal) was a real &quot;phony soldier&quot; because (as MSNBC pointed out at the time) Murtha had correctly quoted miliary investigators &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12838343/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;(who confirmed it to NBC reporters) &lt;/a&gt;as saying that the Haditha affair almost certainly had been a genuine massacre of innocent civilians. 

So, can we knock off the crap?  Limbaugh remains a moderately clever liar, but an unquestionable liar nevertheless, and this whole affair is just a replay of his confident &quot;diagnosis&quot; of Michael J. Fox as faking his Parkinson&#039;s symptons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here we go again.  As Steve Benen pointed out at the time, Limbaugh:</p>
<p>(1)  Agreed with his harebrained caller that "They [war opponents] never talk to real soldiers...If you talk to any real soldier, they&rsquo;re proud to serve, they want to be over in Iraq, they understand their sacrifice and they&rsquo;re willing to sacrifice for the country";</p>
<p>(2)  Talked about other subjects for 1 minute and 50 seconds before it occurred to him that he just might get in trouble for that comment, and only then brought up Jesse MacBeth;</p>
<p>(3) <a href="http://mediamatters.org/items/200709280009" rel="nofollow">Released a doctored clip of that conversation </a>(which he called "the entire segment") on Sept. 28 to make it look as though there was a gap of only 15 seconds before he brought up MacBeth;</p>
<p>(3)  Then announced that John Murtha (Bronze Star with Valor device, two Purple Hearts, the Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry, and the Navy Distinguished Service Medal) was a real "phony soldier" because (as MSNBC pointed out at the time) Murtha had correctly quoted miliary investigators <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12838343/" rel="nofollow">(who confirmed it to NBC reporters) </a>as saying that the Haditha affair almost certainly had been a genuine massacre of innocent civilians. </p>
<p>So, can we knock off the crap?  Limbaugh remains a moderately clever liar, but an unquestionable liar nevertheless, and this whole affair is just a replay of his confident "diagnosis" of Michael J. Fox as faking his Parkinson's symptons.</p>
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