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		<title>By: bryan</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/limbaugh_resigns_from_espn/comment-page-1/#comment-6442</link>
		<dc:creator>bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always thought McNabb was overrated, period. Race not being an issue. The NFC East has been a cakewalk for the Eagles, and he scrambles, so that makes him &quot;elite.&quot; I don&#039;t buy it.

that said, I think the whole issue is overblown, and ESPN&#039;s comment about the &quot;appropriate&quot; response shows exactly how little guts this network has.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've always thought McNabb was overrated, period. Race not being an issue. The NFC East has been a cakewalk for the Eagles, and he scrambles, so that makes him "elite." I don't buy it.</p>
<p>that said, I think the whole issue is overblown, and ESPN's comment about the "appropriate" response shows exactly how little guts this network has.</p>
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		<title>By: lefty skeptic</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/limbaugh_resigns_from_espn/comment-page-1/#comment-6443</link>
		<dc:creator>lefty skeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of coaches, black and white, get praised far out of proportion to their actual achievement on the field.  In my neck of the woods, Mike Shanahan is called a &quot;genius&quot; (a label I have never heard applied to a black coach), but he doesn&#039;t seem so brilliant without John Elway and Terrell Davis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of coaches, black and white, get praised far out of proportion to their actual achievement on the field.  In my neck of the woods, Mike Shanahan is called a "genius" (a label I have never heard applied to a black coach), but he doesn't seem so brilliant without John Elway and Terrell Davis.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ls,

Certainly true re: Shanahan.  There aren&#039;t that many black head coaches, but I&#039;ve certainly heard some mighty high praise for the few that there have been--Denny Green, Tyrone Willingham, Tony Dungy, and others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ls,</p>
<p>Certainly true re: Shanahan.  There aren't that many black head coaches, but I've certainly heard some mighty high praise for the few that there have been--Denny Green, Tyrone Willingham, Tony Dungy, and others.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; I disagree with Rush&#039;s analysis here, in that McNabb has obviously been one of the premier quarterbacks in the league over the last three seasons or so, &lt;/i&gt;

McNabb&#039;s Quarterback Ratings:

1999  60.1
2000  77.8
2001  84.3
2002  86.0
2003  51.1

A starter to be sure but not a &quot;premier&quot; QB IMO.

His is just a tad behind Kerry Collins.

1999  73.3
2000  83.1
2001  77.1
2002  85.4
2003  81.2

And Kerry Collins gets not even half the press McNabb gets. (And the press Collins gets is usually bad) Comparing McNabb&#039;s numbers to other QB&#039;s around the league puts him about in the middle or bottom of the pack of the &quot;good&quot; QB&#039;s.

I think there is an amazing amount of irony here...

Rush accused the media of over blowing the story because it has a racial component and they react by running the story wall to wall because Rush said something about race. CNN covered it for almost 10 hours. 

Ya think maybe Rush had a point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> I disagree with Rush's analysis here, in that McNabb has obviously been one of the premier quarterbacks in the league over the last three seasons or so, </i></p>
<p>McNabb's Quarterback Ratings:</p>
<p>1999  60.1<br />
2000  77.8<br />
2001  84.3<br />
2002  86.0<br />
2003  51.1</p>
<p>A starter to be sure but not a "premier" QB IMO.</p>
<p>His is just a tad behind Kerry Collins.</p>
<p>1999  73.3<br />
2000  83.1<br />
2001  77.1<br />
2002  85.4<br />
2003  81.2</p>
<p>And Kerry Collins gets not even half the press McNabb gets. (And the press Collins gets is usually bad) Comparing McNabb's numbers to other QB's around the league puts him about in the middle or bottom of the pack of the "good" QB's.</p>
<p>I think there is an amazing amount of irony here...</p>
<p>Rush accused the media of over blowing the story because it has a racial component and they react by running the story wall to wall because Rush said something about race. CNN covered it for almost 10 hours. </p>
<p>Ya think maybe Rush had a point?</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting, although I&#039;ve never been a big fan of QB rating.  Troy Aikman was rather mediocre by QBR while any schmoe in a West Coast Offense system puts up huge ratings. 

I think virtually every GM would rather have McNabb over Collins to build around, given the choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, although I've never been a big fan of QB rating.  Troy Aikman was rather mediocre by QBR while any schmoe in a West Coast Offense system puts up huge ratings. </p>
<p>I think virtually every GM would rather have McNabb over Collins to build around, given the choice.</p>
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		<title>By: JadeGold1</title>
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		<dc:creator>JadeGold1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s see, McNabb&#039;s been to 3 straight ProBowls, taken his team to 2 NFC championship games, and was runner-up for the NFL MVP once.

Hmmm. Limbaugh should stick to what he knows best: racist demagoguery and procuring illegal narcotics.

The plain fact is Donovan McNabb would be the starter on all but maybe 3-4 NFL teams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let's see, McNabb's been to 3 straight ProBowls, taken his team to 2 NFC championship games, and was runner-up for the NFL MVP once.</p>
<p>Hmmm. Limbaugh should stick to what he knows best: racist demagoguery and procuring illegal narcotics.</p>
<p>The plain fact is Donovan McNabb would be the starter on all but maybe 3-4 NFL teams.</p>
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		<title>By: lefty skeptic</title>
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		<dc:creator>lefty skeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I don&#039;t think Rush had a point.  Hype is part of the sport.  White players get hyped.  Black players get hyped.  I&#039;m pretty sure that everyone here can think of players of both races that are over-hyped.

For Rush to just pick an example of a black player that has been hyped (deservingly *or* not), and then claim media bias, while ignoring all the hyped and over-hyped white players, is disingenuous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I don't think Rush had a point.  Hype is part of the sport.  White players get hyped.  Black players get hyped.  I'm pretty sure that everyone here can think of players of both races that are over-hyped.</p>
<p>For Rush to just pick an example of a black player that has been hyped (deservingly *or* not), and then claim media bias, while ignoring all the hyped and over-hyped white players, is disingenuous.</p>
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		<title>By: DANEgerus</title>
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		<dc:creator>DANEgerus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dusty Baker: 

&quot;I&#039;m not playing the race card. I&#039;m telling it like it is,&quot; Baker said by telephone Monday. 

&quot;What I meant is that blacks and Latins take the heat better than most whites, and whites take the cold better than most blacks and Latins. That&#039;s it, pure and simple. Nothing deeper than that.&quot;
 
Gets a pass on the Race card... Limbaugh...: 

&quot;I think what we&#039;ve had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well,&#039;&#039; Limbaugh said. &quot;There is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn&#039;t deserve. The defense carried this team.&quot; 

Gets the pink slip of course.  Which proves his point...  notice White Rush Limbaugh criticizes the media, not McNabb... He&#039;s clearly targeting the media for a double standard... but he gets crucified in a &#039;rush&#039; of misquotes and unfounded allegations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dusty Baker: </p>
<p>"I'm not playing the race card. I'm telling it like it is," Baker said by telephone Monday. </p>
<p>"What I meant is that blacks and Latins take the heat better than most whites, and whites take the cold better than most blacks and Latins. That's it, pure and simple. Nothing deeper than that."</p>
<p>Gets a pass on the Race card... Limbaugh...: </p>
<p>"I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well,'' Limbaugh said. "There is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn't deserve. The defense carried this team." </p>
<p>Gets the pink slip of course.  Which proves his point...  notice White Rush Limbaugh criticizes the media, not McNabb... He's clearly targeting the media for a double standard... but he gets crucified in a 'rush' of misquotes and unfounded allegations.</p>
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		<title>By: lefty skeptic</title>
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		<dc:creator>lefty skeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, it doesn&#039;t prove Rush&#039;s point.  His point was that the media over-hypes black quarterbacks because they are black.  That&#039;s bunk.  Rush&#039;s experience may prove some other point, such as how difficult it is to talk about race nowadays without getting everyone all amped up.  Maybe more so if you are white ... but remember the reaction Reggie White got to his comments?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, it doesn't prove Rush's point.  His point was that the media over-hypes black quarterbacks because they are black.  That's bunk.  Rush's experience may prove some other point, such as how difficult it is to talk about race nowadays without getting everyone all amped up.  Maybe more so if you are white ... but remember the reaction Reggie White got to his comments?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; experience may prove some other point, such as
&gt; how difficult it is to talk about race nowadays
&gt; without getting everyone all amped up

This is the issue.  Rush made an opinion.  Is it right?  Is it wrong?  I personally don&#039;t know and don&#039;t care, but you get people like JadeGold:

&gt; Limbaugh should stick to what he knows best:
&gt; racist demagoguery 

You&#039;re thinking Al Sharpton.  

How about debating the merits, or simply saying &quot;no, I disagree&quot;.  No, that takes too much brain power. It becomes name calling and silencing of opinion with any who disagree with you.  You&#039;d make a good Nazi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>> experience may prove some other point, such as<br />
> how difficult it is to talk about race nowadays<br />
> without getting everyone all amped up</p>
<p>This is the issue.  Rush made an opinion.  Is it right?  Is it wrong?  I personally don't know and don't care, but you get people like JadeGold:</p>
<p>> Limbaugh should stick to what he knows best:<br />
> racist demagoguery </p>
<p>You're thinking Al Sharpton.  </p>
<p>How about debating the merits, or simply saying "no, I disagree".  No, that takes too much brain power. It becomes name calling and silencing of opinion with any who disagree with you.  You'd make a good Nazi.</p>
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		<title>By: lefty skeptic</title>
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		<dc:creator>lefty skeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Returning to James&#039; point about coaches.  

Black QBs are commonplace now, and I think that is the main reason nobody feels afraid to say things like &quot;Kordell Stewart sucks&quot; or &quot;Favre is better than McNabb&quot; (whether those things are true or not).
That&#039;s because questioning the ability of a single black QB is not questioning the ability of them all.
When there are more black coaches in the league, I think the same thing will happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Returning to James' point about coaches.  </p>
<p>Black QBs are commonplace now, and I think that is the main reason nobody feels afraid to say things like "Kordell Stewart sucks" or "Favre is better than McNabb" (whether those things are true or not).<br />
That's because questioning the ability of a single black QB is not questioning the ability of them all.<br />
When there are more black coaches in the league, I think the same thing will happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But here is the kicker.. 

Basically what we have is an opportunity for the left wing hates to spew hate. 

And they have.

IRONICALLY none of the left wing haters here are smart enough to see that they are bashing Rush for &quot;being a hater.&quot;

The things that have been typed on this site and on Poliblog latley are filled with FAR more hate than anything Rush says.

All the liberal hate spewers are bashing Rush for spewing hate when they bring it to new level.

So go head Jadegold  et al and tell me how horrible, stupid and evil all republicans are and how YOU would never say anything like Rush.

You are all a bunch of hate filled foolish hypocrites.

You spew more hate in a day then he does in a life time.

Are you too stupid to see it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But here is the kicker.. </p>
<p>Basically what we have is an opportunity for the left wing hates to spew hate. </p>
<p>And they have.</p>
<p>IRONICALLY none of the left wing haters here are smart enough to see that they are bashing Rush for "being a hater."</p>
<p>The things that have been typed on this site and on Poliblog latley are filled with FAR more hate than anything Rush says.</p>
<p>All the liberal hate spewers are bashing Rush for spewing hate when they bring it to new level.</p>
<p>So go head Jadegold  et al and tell me how horrible, stupid and evil all republicans are and how YOU would never say anything like Rush.</p>
<p>You are all a bunch of hate filled foolish hypocrites.</p>
<p>You spew more hate in a day then he does in a life time.</p>
<p>Are you too stupid to see it?</p>
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		<title>By: PoliBlog</title>
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		<dc:creator>PoliBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;A Bad Day for Rush&lt;/strong&gt;
In case you hadn&#039;t heard, Ruch Limbaugh is having a very bad day. James of OTB comments on the ESPN aspect of this story and there has been quite a bite of chatter on this topic at NRO&#039;s The Corner....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>A Bad Day for Rush</strong><br />
In case you hadn't heard, Ruch Limbaugh is having a very bad day. James of OTB comments on the ESPN aspect of this story and there has been quite a bite of chatter on this topic at NRO's The Corner....</p>
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		<title>By: Cobb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cobb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Cobb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cobb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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