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	<title>Comments on: Lockheed Martin Wins Marine One Contract</title>
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		<title>By: Johnny</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/lockheed_martin_wins_marine_one_contract/comment-page-1/#comment-36366</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Feb 2005 11:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally the president can fly a real helicopter.
Sikorsky should realise that we entered the 21st century, their designs still look (and work) as if Igor self is running the show!! I know, because I fly both Sikorsky and european built helicopters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally the president can fly a real helicopter.<br />
Sikorsky should realise that we entered the 21st century, their designs still look (and work) as if Igor self is running the show!! I know, because I fly both Sikorsky and european built helicopters.</p>
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		<title>By: crbn8</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/lockheed_martin_wins_marine_one_contract/comment-page-1/#comment-36073</link>
		<dc:creator>crbn8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2005 01:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as an American TAXPAYER I am not only dissappointed but insulted and outraged at the Navy&#039;s descision to hand the next presidential helicopter responsibility to a foreign designed and built manufacture. No, that is not a misstatement, as anybody who is involved in the making of these type of aircraft can tell you, blade and rotor assemblies are the most flight critical components of helicopters and all manufacturers condsider them &#039;core technology&#039;. These will NOT be &#039;made in the U.S.&#039;  but will come here fully ready to install from Europe. Even worse is the fact this contract is mainly R&amp;D work, where do you think that will go?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as an American TAXPAYER I am not only dissappointed but insulted and outraged at the Navy's descision to hand the next presidential helicopter responsibility to a foreign designed and built manufacture. No, that is not a misstatement, as anybody who is involved in the making of these type of aircraft can tell you, blade and rotor assemblies are the most flight critical components of helicopters and all manufacturers condsider them 'core technology'. These will NOT be 'made in the U.S.'  but will come here fully ready to install from Europe. Even worse is the fact this contract is mainly R&#038;D work, where do you think that will go?</p>
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		<title>By: Stormy Dragon</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/lockheed_martin_wins_marine_one_contract/comment-page-1/#comment-35109</link>
		<dc:creator>Stormy Dragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2005 22:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the extent that the next Marine One isn&#039;t &quot;made in the US&quot; is a problem, the problem is that Sikorsky, the company that invented the helicopter, has slipped behind its foreign competitors and no longer makes the world&#039;s premiere helicopters.

Buying American just for the sake of buying American isn&#039;t going to do anything to fix that problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the extent that the next Marine One isn't "made in the US" is a problem, the problem is that Sikorsky, the company that invented the helicopter, has slipped behind its foreign competitors and no longer makes the world's premiere helicopters.</p>
<p>Buying American just for the sake of buying American isn't going to do anything to fix that problem.</p>
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		<title>By: DC Loser</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/lockheed_martin_wins_marine_one_contract/comment-page-1/#comment-35098</link>
		<dc:creator>DC Loser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2005 20:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congress&#039; butting in on the award decision after the fact is to say the least, disappointing.  This is playing politics with the decision by a panel of Navy contracting and technical experts.  If they wanted a &quot;made in the US&quot; helicopter then they should have specified it in the Request for Proposal.  But federal acquisition law didn&#039;t allow for that so that can&#039;t be used as a criteria for award.  But Lockheed Martin are the big boys too and they won&#039;t take any crap lying down I can assure you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congress' butting in on the award decision after the fact is to say the least, disappointing.  This is playing politics with the decision by a panel of Navy contracting and technical experts.  If they wanted a "made in the US" helicopter then they should have specified it in the Request for Proposal.  But federal acquisition law didn't allow for that so that can't be used as a criteria for award.  But Lockheed Martin are the big boys too and they won't take any crap lying down I can assure you.</p>
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		<title>By: IR</title>
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		<dc:creator>IR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2005 20:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris Dodd, Joe Lieberman, and some woman (presumably a local politician) were over at Sikorsky two days after the announcement acting like raving lunatics.  The local news showed a piece from each of their speeches before the  Sikorsky workers.  The common theme (even from Lieberman) was that the decision was &quot;payback&quot; to a Blue state.  

They acted, and came across, like children...or more apt...like they were channeling Howard Dean.
Cheers
IR

PS:  And where was Chris Shays (one of the few Repub. CT congressmen)?  He was in Iraq on his 8th visit to encourage a successful Iraqi election...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris Dodd, Joe Lieberman, and some woman (presumably a local politician) were over at Sikorsky two days after the announcement acting like raving lunatics.  The local news showed a piece from each of their speeches before the  Sikorsky workers.  The common theme (even from Lieberman) was that the decision was "payback" to a Blue state.  </p>
<p>They acted, and came across, like children...or more apt...like they were channeling Howard Dean.<br />
Cheers<br />
IR</p>
<p>PS:  And where was Chris Shays (one of the few Repub. CT congressmen)?  He was in Iraq on his 8th visit to encourage a successful Iraqi election...</p>
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		<title>By: Bucky Katt</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/lockheed_martin_wins_marine_one_contract/comment-page-1/#comment-35095</link>
		<dc:creator>Bucky Katt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2005 19:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hold your horses on that one:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aviationnow.com/avnow/news/channel_aerospacedaily_story.jsp?id=news/VXXLAW02015.xml&quot;&gt;Unclear whether Lawmakers will alter VXX award&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hold your horses on that one:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.aviationnow.com/avnow/news/channel_aerospacedaily_story.jsp?id=news/VXXLAW02015.xml">Unclear whether Lawmakers will alter VXX award</a></p>
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		<title>By: flydiveski</title>
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		<dc:creator>flydiveski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2005 18:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful.  Lock-Mart also built the NOAA satellite that fell over during construction, costing the taxpayer $300 million, and the Genesis satellite that crashed into the Utah desert because of L-M&#039;s faulty design instructions.  Perhaps, for safety&#039;s sake, the Marines should drive a Lock-Mart helicopter from place to place, and not risk actually flying it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful.  Lock-Mart also built the NOAA satellite that fell over during construction, costing the taxpayer $300 million, and the Genesis satellite that crashed into the Utah desert because of L-M's faulty design instructions.  Perhaps, for safety's sake, the Marines should drive a Lock-Mart helicopter from place to place, and not risk actually flying it.</p>
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		<title>By: DC Loser</title>
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		<dc:creator>DC Loser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2005 17:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having been on military source selections before I&#039;ll just say that the winner won on how it met the technical specifications and cost better than the competition.  Politics has no place in such a process, unless you let it into the process (such as the case with Druyun).  If there is some shenanigan, you can bet Sikorsky would be filing a protest pretty fast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been on military source selections before I'll just say that the winner won on how it met the technical specifications and cost better than the competition.  Politics has no place in such a process, unless you let it into the process (such as the case with Druyun).  If there is some shenanigan, you can bet Sikorsky would be filing a protest pretty fast.</p>
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