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		<title>By: Dodd</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/los_angeles_times_bans_edwards_scandal_story/comment-page-1/#comment-475556</link>
		<dc:creator>Dodd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 04:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &lt;em&gt;London Times&lt;/em&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4406814.ece&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sees the point&lt;/a&gt; quite as clearly as I do:
&lt;blockquote&gt;The New York Times has not deigned to touch the story, although it recently ran thousands of words on a relationship between McCain and a female lobbyist, which appeared to be based more on innuendo than fact.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <em>London Times</em> <a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4406814.ece" rel="nofollow">sees the point</a> quite as clearly as I do:</p>
<blockquote><p>The New York Times has not deigned to touch the story, although it recently ran thousands of words on a relationship between McCain and a female lobbyist, which appeared to be based more on innuendo than fact.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Jim Treacher</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/los_angeles_times_bans_edwards_scandal_story/comment-page-1/#comment-475443</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Treacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 03:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Perhaps one of the reasons for this shocking journalistic double standard is that McCain was running for president when the story ran and John Edwards is not.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So it&#039;s not a story because they weren&#039;t able to catch him red-handed until after he&#039;d already dropped out of the race? Even though the baby would&#039;ve had to have been conceived on the campaign trail?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Perhaps one of the reasons for this shocking journalistic double standard is that McCain was running for president when the story ran and John Edwards is not.</p></blockquote>
<p>So it's not a story because they weren't able to catch him red-handed until after he'd already dropped out of the race? Even though the baby would've had to have been conceived on the campaign trail?</p>
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		<title>By: TCP Wagner</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/los_angeles_times_bans_edwards_scandal_story/comment-page-1/#comment-473324</link>
		<dc:creator>TCP Wagner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 01:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it must be even handier to be a Republican. Whose name is more known when it comes to scandal? Gennifer Flowers or Jennifer Fitzgerald?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it must be even handier to be a Republican. Whose name is more known when it comes to scandal? Gennifer Flowers or Jennifer Fitzgerald?</p>
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		<title>By: Spoker</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/los_angeles_times_bans_edwards_scandal_story/comment-page-1/#comment-473068</link>
		<dc:creator>Spoker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is truly amazing how fast policies change at the LA Times.  Just happened to see this in todays edition.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedishrag/2008/07/matthew-broderi.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is truly amazing how fast policies change at the LA Times.  Just happened to see this in todays edition.<br />
<a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedishrag/2008/07/matthew-broderi.html" rel="nofollow">http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedishrag/2008/07/matthew-broderi.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Spoker</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/los_angeles_times_bans_edwards_scandal_story/comment-page-1/#comment-472927</link>
		<dc:creator>Spoker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And they keep calling asking me why I canceled my subscription.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And they keep calling asking me why I canceled my subscription.</p>
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		<title>By: Dodd</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/los_angeles_times_bans_edwards_scandal_story/comment-page-1/#comment-472732</link>
		<dc:creator>Dodd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;No, Dodd, simply not true. Did you even read the original story? It was about how Mr. Clean was elbows deeps into close ties with lobbyists. The affair part was a throw-away &lt;/em&gt;

Even assuming for the sake of argument that that&#039;s correct (which I do not concede - we shall simply have to agree to disagree on the import of the alleged affair in that story getting to press), we still have a) on the one hand a salacious story they were all too happy to run with, based on basically nothing, about events that were almost a decade old, and b) on the other hand a salacious story that&#039;s still breaking about which they&#039;re suddenly so cautious about that they&#039;ve banned any mention of it, even posts which question its legitimacy. The disconnect is quite apparent to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>No, Dodd, simply not true. Did you even read the original story? It was about how Mr. Clean was elbows deeps into close ties with lobbyists. The affair part was a throw-away </em></p>
<p>Even assuming for the sake of argument that that's correct (which I do not concede - we shall simply have to agree to disagree on the import of the alleged affair in that story getting to press), we still have a) on the one hand a salacious story they were all too happy to run with, based on basically nothing, about events that were almost a decade old, and b) on the other hand a salacious story that's still breaking about which they're suddenly so cautious about that they've banned any mention of it, even posts which question its legitimacy. The disconnect is quite apparent to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard Finel</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/los_angeles_times_bans_edwards_scandal_story/comment-page-1/#comment-472655</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernard Finel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Dodd, simply not true.  Did you even read the original story?  It was about how Mr. Clean was elbows deeps into close ties with lobbyists.  The affair part was a throw-away -- it just said, basically, some of his staffers were concerned that she was getting so much access that they might be having an affair.

Again, I am not defending the reporting.  But the claim that these are both just affair stories is simply wrong and embarrassing and well below the standards readers like me expect of this site. 

By the way, I don&#039;t particularly have any objection to the Edwards story.  I do think adultery is a character issue that should be covered.  I really, really doubt any McCain supporter is going to want to open up that can of worms though.  The shenanigans with Cindy back when he was married to Carol were enough to turn Nancy Reagan off to McCain, and she was closer to the story than any of us is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Dodd, simply not true.  Did you even read the original story?  It was about how Mr. Clean was elbows deeps into close ties with lobbyists.  The affair part was a throw-away -- it just said, basically, some of his staffers were concerned that she was getting so much access that they might be having an affair.</p>
<p>Again, I am not defending the reporting.  But the claim that these are both just affair stories is simply wrong and embarrassing and well below the standards readers like me expect of this site. </p>
<p>By the way, I don't particularly have any objection to the Edwards story.  I do think adultery is a character issue that should be covered.  I really, really doubt any McCain supporter is going to want to open up that can of worms though.  The shenanigans with Cindy back when he was married to Carol were enough to turn Nancy Reagan off to McCain, and she was closer to the story than any of us is.</p>
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		<title>By: Dodd</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/los_angeles_times_bans_edwards_scandal_story/comment-page-1/#comment-472632</link>
		<dc:creator>Dodd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;improper relationship with a lobbyist.&lt;/em&gt;

And this is different from &quot;inappropriate relationship with Vicki Iseman&quot; how? Seriously, the only reason the supposed lobbyist angle had any traction was because he was accused of having an affair with her. No difference. 

As to the status of the campaigns, that dog won&#039;t hunt. Edwards is frequently mentioned as a potential AG and, given that he won some delegates, will most likely have a nice speaking slot at the convention. As such, this is just as (if not more) &lt;em&gt;newsworthy&lt;/em&gt; as the bogus McCain story. As such, there&#039;s no &lt;em&gt;credible&lt;/em&gt; excuse for this gag order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>improper relationship with a lobbyist.</em></p>
<p>And this is different from "inappropriate relationship with Vicki Iseman" how? Seriously, the only reason the supposed lobbyist angle had any traction was because he was accused of having an affair with her. No difference. </p>
<p>As to the status of the campaigns, that dog won't hunt. Edwards is frequently mentioned as a potential AG and, given that he won some delegates, will most likely have a nice speaking slot at the convention. As such, this is just as (if not more) <em>newsworthy</em> as the bogus McCain story. As such, there's no <em>credible</em> excuse for this gag order.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard Finel</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/los_angeles_times_bans_edwards_scandal_story/comment-page-1/#comment-472611</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernard Finel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh... the McCain story was not about an affair... it was about an improper relationship with a lobbyist.  The prurient element was just an added bonus.  The Edwards story is a pure affair.

Let&#039;s at least keep straight what the stories were about before we talk about whether they are credible or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh... the McCain story was not about an affair... it was about an improper relationship with a lobbyist.  The prurient element was just an added bonus.  The Edwards story is a pure affair.</p>
<p>Let's at least keep straight what the stories were about before we talk about whether they are credible or not.</p>
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		<title>By: LeatherPenguin &#187; SPEAK NO ILL OF SILKY PONY!</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeatherPenguin &#187; SPEAK NO ILL OF SILKY PONY!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Los Angeles Times Bans Edwards Scandal Story [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Los Angeles Times Bans Edwards Scandal Story [...]</p>
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		<title>By: WR</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/los_angeles_times_bans_edwards_scandal_story/comment-page-1/#comment-472540</link>
		<dc:creator>WR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps one of the reasons for this shocking journalistic double standard is that McCain was running for president when the story ran and John Edwards is not.

Of course, having watched the McCain campaign of late, it could be argued that he&#039;s not really running, either. But at the time of the story, he seemed to be giving it a shot...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps one of the reasons for this shocking journalistic double standard is that McCain was running for president when the story ran and John Edwards is not.</p>
<p>Of course, having watched the McCain campaign of late, it could be argued that he's not really running, either. But at the time of the story, he seemed to be giving it a shot...</p>
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		<title>By: unspun</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/los_angeles_times_bans_edwards_scandal_story/comment-page-1/#comment-472514</link>
		<dc:creator>unspun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does someone like that get his job?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does someone like that get his job?</p>
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		<title>By: B. Minich</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/los_angeles_times_bans_edwards_scandal_story/comment-page-1/#comment-472438</link>
		<dc:creator>B. Minich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I&#039;d have trouble taking career direction from a man who signs his e-mails &quot;keep rockin&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I'd have trouble taking career direction from a man who signs his e-mails "keep rockin".</p>
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		<title>By: yetanotherjohn</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/los_angeles_times_bans_edwards_scandal_story/comment-page-1/#comment-472400</link>
		<dc:creator>yetanotherjohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It must be nice to be a politician with a D after your name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It must be nice to be a politician with a D after your name.</p>
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		<title>By: Dantheman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dantheman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course this is partisan.  After all, the LA Times spent so much ink on all of the lurid Bush rumors about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/7/25/9551/87873/937/556389&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;drinking binges and divorce proceedings&lt;/a&gt;.

Or maybe not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course this is partisan.  After all, the LA Times spent so much ink on all of the lurid Bush rumors about <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/7/25/9551/87873/937/556389" rel="nofollow">drinking binges and divorce proceedings</a>.</p>
<p>Or maybe not.</p>
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