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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/losing_the_war_against_radical_islam/comment-page-1/#comment-135439</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 02:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I sure would like to know where you get your information on these great men from, another liberal?&lt;/blockquote&gt;See, when you label everyone who says what you don&#039;t want to hear a &quot;liberal&quot;, and thus disregard their conclusions regardless of their evidence, what then can I possibly use to convince you?

&lt;blockquote&gt;what would you say If I told you that 54 of the 56 singers of the Declaration of Independence were Christians?&lt;/blockquote&gt;I would say that nearly all Democratic congressmen today, the ones you accuse of abandoning our &quot;conservative Christian&quot; founding, are also Christians.  If these Christians can create a non-Christian government, then so could the ones of 200 years ago.

&lt;blockquote&gt;And I was not speaking of the modern definition but true definition.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I&#039;m willing to bet that less than 10% of those who claim to be Christian will agree with you on what is the &quot;true definition&quot; of the word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I sure would like to know where you get your information on these great men from, another liberal?</p></blockquote>
<p>See, when you label everyone who says what you don't want to hear a "liberal", and thus disregard their conclusions regardless of their evidence, what then can I possibly use to convince you?</p>
<blockquote><p>what would you say If I told you that 54 of the 56 singers of the Declaration of Independence were Christians?</p></blockquote>
<p>I would say that nearly all Democratic congressmen today, the ones you accuse of abandoning our "conservative Christian" founding, are also Christians.  If these Christians can create a non-Christian government, then so could the ones of 200 years ago.</p>
<blockquote><p>And I was not speaking of the modern definition but true definition.</p></blockquote>
<p>I'm willing to bet that less than 10% of those who claim to be Christian will agree with you on what is the "true definition" of the word.</p>
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		<title>By: G.A.Phillips</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/losing_the_war_against_radical_islam/comment-page-1/#comment-135413</link>
		<dc:creator>G.A.Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

 I sure would like to know where you get your information on these great men from, another liberal? 

what would you say If I told you that 54 of the 56 singers of the Declaration of Independence were Christians?

And I was not speaking of the modern definition but true definition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p> I sure would like to know where you get your information on these great men from, another liberal? </p>
<p>what would you say If I told you that 54 of the 56 singers of the Declaration of Independence were Christians?</p>
<p>And I was not speaking of the modern definition but true definition.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 19:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adams was much closer to being a Deist than a Christian in his day, and even further from the modern definition of a &quot;conservative christian&quot;*.  Washington too, while maybe not a Deist, was much more inclined to the deist ideologies for government than the christians of his day, and the &quot;conservative christians&quot;* of our day.  Franklin, Jefferson and Madison were all noted deists.

* At least on science and political views, all would probably be repulsed by homosexuality and abortions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adams was much closer to being a Deist than a Christian in his day, and even further from the modern definition of a "conservative christian"*.  Washington too, while maybe not a Deist, was much more inclined to the deist ideologies for government than the christians of his day, and the "conservative christians"* of our day.  Franklin, Jefferson and Madison were all noted deists.</p>
<p>* At least on science and political views, all would probably be repulsed by homosexuality and abortions.</p>
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		<title>By: G.A.Phillips</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/losing_the_war_against_radical_islam/comment-page-1/#comment-135383</link>
		<dc:creator>G.A.Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 18:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

George Washington, John Adams.

oh and thanks for the info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>George Washington, John Adams.</p>
<p>oh and thanks for the info.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/losing_the_war_against_radical_islam/comment-page-1/#comment-135351</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 15:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;you could not be more wrong? The above is a common liberal lie.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Ok, name a couple of conservative christian founders.

&lt;blockquote&gt;and I was refereeing to the un-jumbled statements of my new post and asking how to get the gold bar on on the side of the statements that we cut and post.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Use the b-quote button when writing your comment.  It will create the HTML tags &lt;blockquote&gt; before the comment you&#039;re quoting, paste the quote you want, then press it again to add the &lt;/blockquote&gt; tag to close the quote.  For example, the above I used code that looked like this:

&lt;blockquote&gt;and I was refereeing to the un-jumbled statements of my new post and asking how to get the gold bar on on the side of the statements that we cut and post.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>you could not be more wrong? The above is a common liberal lie.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ok, name a couple of conservative christian founders.</p>
<blockquote><p>and I was refereeing to the un-jumbled statements of my new post and asking how to get the gold bar on on the side of the statements that we cut and post.</p></blockquote>
<p>Use the b-quote button when writing your comment.  It will create the HTML tags &lt;blockquote&gt; before the comment you're quoting, paste the quote you want, then press it again to add the &lt;/blockquote&gt; tag to close the quote.  For example, the above I used code that looked like this:</p>
<p>&lt;blockquote&gt;and I was refereeing to the un-jumbled statements of my new post and asking how to get the gold bar on on the side of the statements that we cut and post.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</p>
<p>(Here's hoping the forum allows my escaped HTML through unchanged.)</p>
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		<title>By: G.A.Phillips</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/losing_the_war_against_radical_islam/comment-page-1/#comment-135338</link>
		<dc:creator>G.A.Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 14:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael?

&quot;With a few exceptions, this country was founded by atheists, agnostics and deists.&quot;

you could not be more wrong? The above is a common liberal lie.

and I was refereeing to the  un-jumbled statements of my new post and asking how to get the gold bar on on the side of the statements that we cut and post.

 I don&#039;t don&#039;t drink liquor any more, but when I did I saw Pink donkey&#039;s not gold bar&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael?</p>
<p>"With a few exceptions, this country was founded by atheists, agnostics and deists."</p>
<p>you could not be more wrong? The above is a common liberal lie.</p>
<p>and I was refereeing to the  un-jumbled statements of my new post and asking how to get the gold bar on on the side of the statements that we cut and post.</p>
<p> I don't don't drink liquor any more, but when I did I saw Pink donkey's not gold bar's.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 02:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Liberals have used terrorist technique on regular bases to promote their agenda while it is an exception on the conservative side.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I  can only assume you&#039;re talking about groups in other countries who are labeled as &quot;Liberal&quot; and &quot;Conservative&quot;, since neither American political party has engaged in terrorism of any kind, and have much more in common with each other than those similarly labeled groups in other countries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Liberals have used terrorist technique on regular bases to promote their agenda while it is an exception on the conservative side.</p></blockquote>
<p>I  can only assume you're talking about groups in other countries who are labeled as "Liberal" and "Conservative", since neither American political party has engaged in terrorism of any kind, and have much more in common with each other than those similarly labeled groups in other countries.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 02:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Ken, if you read your history books, well maybe not your history books, you will find that this country was founded by conservative Christians.&lt;/blockquote&gt;With a few exceptions, this country was founded by atheists, agnostics and deists.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I&#039;&#039;m trying bro, and while we&#039;re at it how do they get them cool gold bars to appear on the sides of the comments? You will be happy to know my girlfriend just taught me how to separate, ha ha!&lt;/blockquote&gt;WTF?  I seriously have no idea what you&#039;re talking about.  Are you drunk?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Ken, if you read your history books, well maybe not your history books, you will find that this country was founded by conservative Christians.</p></blockquote>
<p>With a few exceptions, this country was founded by atheists, agnostics and deists.</p>
<blockquote><p>I''m trying bro, and while we're at it how do they get them cool gold bars to appear on the sides of the comments? You will be happy to know my girlfriend just taught me how to separate, ha ha!</p></blockquote>
<p>WTF?  I seriously have no idea what you're talking about.  Are you drunk?</p>
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		<title>By: G.A.Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.A.Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 00:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken, once again you have learned nothing.

&quot;What is the difference then? I see they both want essentially the same thing: kill, torture, and dominate those who do not agree with them. Basically neither believes in our American values. Basically both are our enemies.&quot; 

Dude??????

&quot;We fight them (radical islamists) here the same way we fight conservatives. It is not easy but we have the moral, ethical and legal high ground that gives us all the advantage. We will win in the end.&quot;

Ken, you truly are mad. Please tell me why you think this?
  
Ken, if you read your history books, well maybe not your history books, you will find that this country was founded by conservative Christians.

 It is reason you are free to talk your crazy donkey smack.
 
&quot;G.A.Philips,
Good God man, punctuate&quot;

I&#039;&#039;m trying bro, and while we&#039;re at it how do they get them cool gold bars to appear on the sides of the comments? You will be happy to know my girlfriend just taught me how to separate, ha ha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken, once again you have learned nothing.</p>
<p>"What is the difference then? I see they both want essentially the same thing: kill, torture, and dominate those who do not agree with them. Basically neither believes in our American values. Basically both are our enemies." </p>
<p>Dude??????</p>
<p>"We fight them (radical islamists) here the same way we fight conservatives. It is not easy but we have the moral, ethical and legal high ground that gives us all the advantage. We will win in the end."</p>
<p>Ken, you truly are mad. Please tell me why you think this?</p>
<p>Ken, if you read your history books, well maybe not your history books, you will find that this country was founded by conservative Christians.</p>
<p> It is reason you are free to talk your crazy donkey smack.</p>
<p>"G.A.Philips,<br />
Good God man, punctuate"</p>
<p>I''m trying bro, and while we're at it how do they get them cool gold bars to appear on the sides of the comments? You will be happy to know my girlfriend just taught me how to separate, ha ha!</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 00:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many of the Muslims flee to other countries because of religious prosecution. Some of them have practices that are radical and they plan to intimidate host countries in those practices. Key word is “some”. There are those that move to U.S. not because they believe in American standards but because they think they can take over areas of the U.S.  

Just because a group move to another country is be no means a definition they are not radical. In fact history has shown that many radical groups are force to move because they are radical. Of course many groups move for other reasons as well.

Liberals have used terrorist technique on regular bases to promote their agenda while it is an exception on the conservative side. Neither group has reach anywhere close the level as radical Islam. To think we will be able to treat it solely as law enforcement matter is naive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many of the Muslims flee to other countries because of religious prosecution. Some of them have practices that are radical and they plan to intimidate host countries in those practices. Key word is “some”. There are those that move to U.S. not because they believe in American standards but because they think they can take over areas of the U.S.  </p>
<p>Just because a group move to another country is be no means a definition they are not radical. In fact history has shown that many radical groups are force to move because they are radical. Of course many groups move for other reasons as well.</p>
<p>Liberals have used terrorist technique on regular bases to promote their agenda while it is an exception on the conservative side. Neither group has reach anywhere close the level as radical Islam. To think we will be able to treat it solely as law enforcement matter is naive.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkT</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 23:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Conservatives in the US haven’t been using terrorism on a regular basis yet to further their cause.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not on a regular basis, but they have used it, agreed?

And there are many conservatives in the US that approve of the use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Conservatives in the US haven&rsquo;t been using terrorism on a regular basis yet to further their cause.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not on a regular basis, but they have used it, agreed?</p>
<p>And there are many conservatives in the US that approve of the use.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 20:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken,
    It became a western problem very shortly after the fall of the Ottoman empire.  The British and French did a remarkably good job at screwing up Arab-Western relations.

Wayne,
    No radical Muslims came to America with the hope of a better life.  Those that see America as a better way of living are almost by definition NOT radical Muslims.

G.A.Philips,
    Good God man, punctuate!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken,<br />
    It became a western problem very shortly after the fall of the Ottoman empire.  The British and French did a remarkably good job at screwing up Arab-Western relations.</p>
<p>Wayne,<br />
    No radical Muslims came to America with the hope of a better life.  Those that see America as a better way of living are almost by definition NOT radical Muslims.</p>
<p>G.A.Philips,<br />
    Good God man, punctuate!</p>
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		<title>By: ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 19:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If you think that radical Islam and conservative Christians are on the same level, you are sadly mistaken.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What is the difference then? I see they both want essentially the same thing: kill, torture, and   dominate those who do not agree with them. Basically neither believes in our American values. Basically both are our enemies. 

I see no reason to fear either radical Islam or conservative ideology. I believe America is stronger than either alone or both together. We will prevail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If you think that radical Islam and conservative Christians are on the same level, you are sadly mistaken.</p></blockquote>
<p>What is the difference then? I see they both want essentially the same thing: kill, torture, and   dominate those who do not agree with them. Basically neither believes in our American values. Basically both are our enemies. </p>
<p>I see no reason to fear either radical Islam or conservative ideology. I believe America is stronger than either alone or both together. We will prevail.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 19:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard outrage about the feces on Jesus display from the conservative Christians but don’t recall riots like Muslim did with the cartoon. 

Conservatives in the US haven’t been using terrorism on a regular basis yet to further their cause. Problems with the Muslim immigrants have been on the rise and will probably continue. Leaving the radicals alone in the ME will allow them to build and concentrate their fight outside the ME. 

If you think that radical Islam and conservative Christians are on the same level, you are sadly mistaken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard outrage about the feces on Jesus display from the conservative Christians but don&rsquo;t recall riots like Muslim did with the cartoon. </p>
<p>Conservatives in the US haven&rsquo;t been using terrorism on a regular basis yet to further their cause. Problems with the Muslim immigrants have been on the rise and will probably continue. Leaving the radicals alone in the ME will allow them to build and concentrate their fight outside the ME. </p>
<p>If you think that radical Islam and conservative Christians are on the same level, you are sadly mistaken.</p>
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		<title>By: G,A.Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>G,A.Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 19:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&quot;What about them? If they become citizens, register to vote, and get legislation passed to impose sharia somewhere how is that any different from what the conservative Christians want to do?&quot;&quot; Ken, do you have any idea what country you live in or how it and its Constitution and laws where founded?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>""What about them? If they become citizens, register to vote, and get legislation passed to impose sharia somewhere how is that any different from what the conservative Christians want to do?"" Ken, do you have any idea what country you live in or how it and its Constitution and laws where founded?</p>
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