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	<title>Comments on: Mark Penn: It Was Obama&#8217;s Money, Not My Incompetence</title>
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		<title>By: Patrick Vashon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Vashon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Politics like war is fought with strategies that worked last time thus it is the innovator that wins new wars and new political campaigns. Penn was so far out of step that he thought California was a winner take all state and not subject to the rules of apportionment. Ignorance like that is fatal. Even so Hillary&#039;s final wins and her performance was good enough to bring her within a gnats eyebrow of winning the Nomination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Politics like war is fought with strategies that worked last time thus it is the innovator that wins new wars and new political campaigns. Penn was so far out of step that he thought California was a winner take all state and not subject to the rules of apportionment. Ignorance like that is fatal. Even so Hillary's final wins and her performance was good enough to bring her within a gnats eyebrow of winning the Nomination.</p>
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		<title>By: vnjagvet</title>
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		<dc:creator>vnjagvet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 02:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Penn and McClellan have a major character flaw in common. They are blamers.

Based on their performance, I would automatically discount the judgment of anyone hiring either of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Penn and McClellan have a major character flaw in common. They are blamers.</p>
<p>Based on their performance, I would automatically discount the judgment of anyone hiring either of them.</p>
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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 01:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reasons why Hillary Clinton lost:

1. Hillary Clinton is a bad and badly flawed candidate.
2. Barack Obama&#039;s marketing of himself as a vessel for people to project their hopes and dreams, while he has studiously avoided specifics has largely been successful.
3. Hillary Clinton mounted a poor campaign driven by arrogance and a sense of entitlement until it was too late.  Just look at the final week to see this in all its glory.
4. Clinton fatigue finally took its toll, even on Democrats.
5. Hillary Clinton&#039;s elevation of sycophancy as a principle attribute for her staff finally caught up with her.  She paid the price for making it difficult, if not impossible, to get frank advice.

Note, Obama&#039;s pile of money did not make the list.  Mark Penn is to an extent I am unable to completely discern responsible for item 3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reasons why Hillary Clinton lost:</p>
<p>1. Hillary Clinton is a bad and badly flawed candidate.<br />
2. Barack Obama's marketing of himself as a vessel for people to project their hopes and dreams, while he has studiously avoided specifics has largely been successful.<br />
3. Hillary Clinton mounted a poor campaign driven by arrogance and a sense of entitlement until it was too late.  Just look at the final week to see this in all its glory.<br />
4. Clinton fatigue finally took its toll, even on Democrats.<br />
5. Hillary Clinton's elevation of sycophancy as a principle attribute for her staff finally caught up with her.  She paid the price for making it difficult, if not impossible, to get frank advice.</p>
<p>Note, Obama's pile of money did not make the list.  Mark Penn is to an extent I am unable to completely discern responsible for item 3.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Verdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Verdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 00:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t buy this at all.  The guy is clearly being dishonest.  From what I&#039;ve read Obama and his staff simply out manuevered Clinton and she wasn&#039;t smart enough to see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't buy this at all.  The guy is clearly being dishonest.  From what I've read Obama and his staff simply out manuevered Clinton and she wasn't smart enough to see it.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff b</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please.  There exist zero Democratic primary voters who give a flying handshake about the immigrant drivers license bogey man.  Hillary&#039;s downfall can be traced to the simple fact that she lost.  That may seem tautological but she lost because Penn did not understand the caucus system nor how to exploit it.  Even at the Nevada caucus, in which Hillary was nominally the winner, Obama came out with more delegates.  It helps to know the rules of the game.

Of course, why should Penn care?  He and his firm made an insane amount of money in the process of losing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please.  There exist zero Democratic primary voters who give a flying handshake about the immigrant drivers license bogey man.  Hillary's downfall can be traced to the simple fact that she lost.  That may seem tautological but she lost because Penn did not understand the caucus system nor how to exploit it.  Even at the Nevada caucus, in which Hillary was nominally the winner, Obama came out with more delegates.  It helps to know the rules of the game.</p>
<p>Of course, why should Penn care?  He and his firm made an insane amount of money in the process of losing.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Schuler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Or why they spent their money so foolishly.
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Technocrats are predisposed to spend their money on consultants.</description>
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Or why they spent their money so foolishly.
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<p>Technocrats are predisposed to spend their money on consultants.</p>
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		<title>By: jainphx</title>
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		<dc:creator>jainphx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Her down fall dates to the question about illegals drivers licenses, ask by Russert. He was dared by Rush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Her down fall dates to the question about illegals drivers licenses, ask by Russert. He was dared by Rush.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 21:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I heard there was some kind of war recently. Any truth to that? Could we ask Mark Penn?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Indeed. No doubt, Hillary&#039;s careful positioning on the war in 2003 in preparation for 2008 backfired. OTOH, she ran the worst possible campaign based on that original positioning, neither consistently explaining why she voted as she did, nor consistently explaining what she would, in the considered judgment gained in four decades of super-duper experience, do now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I heard there was some kind of war recently. Any truth to that? Could we ask Mark Penn?</p></blockquote>
<p>Indeed. No doubt, Hillary's careful positioning on the war in 2003 in preparation for 2008 backfired. OTOH, she ran the worst possible campaign based on that original positioning, neither consistently explaining why she voted as she did, nor consistently explaining what she would, in the considered judgment gained in four decades of super-duper experience, do now.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Henley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Henley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 21:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard there was some kind of war recently. Any truth to that? Could we ask Mark Penn?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard there was some kind of war recently. Any truth to that? Could we ask Mark Penn?</p>
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		<title>By: Spoker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spoker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 21:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone ever take the blame for their failures the way they want to take credit for someone else&#039;s successes any more?  One hell of a commentary on todays &quot;adults&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone ever take the blame for their failures the way they want to take credit for someone else's successes any more?  One hell of a commentary on todays "adults".</p>
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