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	<title>Comments on: McCain on Gas Prices:  &#8216;I Don&#8217;t See How it Matters&#8217; (Corrected)</title>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/mccain-on-gas-prices-i-dont-see-how-it-matters/comment-page-1/#comment-434564</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But Obama gets an &quot;He is tired&quot; excuse for 99% of his gaffs, McCain should get them too on occassion.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I&#039;m pretty sure the McCain camp would rather deal with a &quot;He&#039;s out of touch&quot; meme than a &quot;He&#039;s too tired&quot; meme which would once again bring up the age issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But Obama gets an "He is tired" excuse for 99% of his gaffs, McCain should get them too on occassion.</p></blockquote>
<p>I'm pretty sure the McCain camp would rather deal with a "He's out of touch" meme than a "He's too tired" meme which would once again bring up the age issue.</p>
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		<title>By: just me</title>
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		<dc:creator>just me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;McCain gave a really poor answer to this question and it&#039;s hardly unreasonable to point that out.&lt;/i&gt;

I think this is a reasonable opinion.

I think it was mostly clear that McCain was answering the &quot;when did you last pump gas question and how much did it cost?&quot; with an &quot;I don&#039;t remember, and the price then doesn&#039;t matter&quot; answer  I think he was right on that score-pumping your own gas isn&#039;t really relevant.

I also think how much it was then doesn&#039;t matter-he just would have been better to have tagged the actual current cost of gas onto the question.

But Obama gets an &quot;He is tired&quot; excuse for 99% of his gaffs, McCain should get them too on occassion.

I can go for a &quot;he should have given a better answer&quot; criticism, but that isn&#039;t what the headline was about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>McCain gave a really poor answer to this question and it's hardly unreasonable to point that out.</i></p>
<p>I think this is a reasonable opinion.</p>
<p>I think it was mostly clear that McCain was answering the "when did you last pump gas question and how much did it cost?" with an "I don't remember, and the price then doesn't matter" answer  I think he was right on that score-pumping your own gas isn't really relevant.</p>
<p>I also think how much it was then doesn't matter-he just would have been better to have tagged the actual current cost of gas onto the question.</p>
<p>But Obama gets an "He is tired" excuse for 99% of his gaffs, McCain should get them too on occassion.</p>
<p>I can go for a "he should have given a better answer" criticism, but that isn't what the headline was about.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Ah, but only one hundred percent loyalty will be tolerated. It&#039;s truly bizarre. &lt;/blockquote&gt;Again through, your loyalty still seemed 100% behind McCain, I think it was your enthusiasm that they found lacking.

&lt;blockquote&gt;It&#039;s truly bizarre. Not just a phenomenon of the right, of course, given the vociferousness of the Netroots on some issues, but most unproductive.&lt;/blockquote&gt;True, but I&#039;m not sure I&#039;ve ever see a case where people equate being critical of the statement choice of the candidate you have openly supported for over a year with being an enthusiastic proponent of the other candidate.

I guess, though, it&#039;s really no different than the &quot;If you question our tactics, then you must want the terrorists to win&quot; meme that&#039;s been cultivated all too well in the right blogosphere.

At least people who question Obama&#039;s campaign are only labeled racists, it seems that anyone who questions McCain&#039;s is labeled an Obama supporter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Ah, but only one hundred percent loyalty will be tolerated. It's truly bizarre. </p></blockquote>
<p>Again through, your loyalty still seemed 100% behind McCain, I think it was your enthusiasm that they found lacking.</p>
<blockquote><p>It's truly bizarre. Not just a phenomenon of the right, of course, given the vociferousness of the Netroots on some issues, but most unproductive.</p></blockquote>
<p>True, but I'm not sure I've ever see a case where people equate being critical of the statement choice of the candidate you have openly supported for over a year with being an enthusiastic proponent of the other candidate.</p>
<p>I guess, though, it's really no different than the "If you question our tactics, then you must want the terrorists to win" meme that's been cultivated all too well in the right blogosphere.</p>
<p>At least people who question Obama's campaign are only labeled racists, it seems that anyone who questions McCain's is labeled an Obama supporter.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/mccain-on-gas-prices-i-dont-see-how-it-matters/comment-page-1/#comment-434531</link>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Only you &lt;strong&gt;are&lt;/strong&gt; with them. So I guess it&#039;s more a case of &quot;If you&#039;re not as loud as we are, you&#039;re against us&quot;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ah, but only one hundred percent loyalty will be tolerated.  It&#039;s truly bizarre.  Not just a phenomenon of the right, of course, given the vociferousness of the Netroots on some issues, but most unproductive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Only you <strong>are</strong> with them. So I guess it's more a case of "If you're not as loud as we are, you're against us".</p></blockquote>
<p>Ah, but only one hundred percent loyalty will be tolerated.  It's truly bizarre.  Not just a phenomenon of the right, of course, given the vociferousness of the Netroots on some issues, but most unproductive.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shawn Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talk about a misleading headline.  What a waste of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about a misleading headline.  What a waste of time.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Will truth matter? Yes, according to Patterico who I thank for the quote.&lt;/blockquote&gt;You mean the same Pattrico who posted the above quote right here yesterday, whom James credited in his correction update in the post itself?

Really, what did you add?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Will truth matter? Yes, according to Patterico who I thank for the quote.</p></blockquote>
<p>You mean the same Pattrico who posted the above quote right here yesterday, whom James credited in his correction update in the post itself?</p>
<p>Really, what did you add?</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmm.....

So, does John McCain know the cost of a gallon of gas in America? Yes, he does. Here’s a news story from June 18:

    “The price of a gallon of gas in America stands at more than four dollars. Yesterday, a barrel of oil cost about 134 dollarsm” said McCain.

Will truth matter?  Yes, according to Patterico who I thank for the quote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm.....</p>
<p>So, does John McCain know the cost of a gallon of gas in America? Yes, he does. Here&rsquo;s a news story from June 18:</p>
<p>    “The price of a gallon of gas in America stands at more than four dollars. Yesterday, a barrel of oil cost about 134 dollarsm” said McCain.</p>
<p>Will truth matter?  Yes, according to Patterico who I thank for the quote.</p>
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		<title>By: harkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>harkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice correction/apology.....NOT

Not only do you only make a half-hearted attempt at correction, you blame McCain for your mistake (&#039;the answer he should have given&#039;)

It&#039;s funny watching the netroots turn this from an example of their own lack of reporting skills to a spin on McCain&#039;s irritability.

Pwned</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice correction/apology.....NOT</p>
<p>Not only do you only make a half-hearted attempt at correction, you blame McCain for your mistake ('the answer he should have given')</p>
<p>It's funny watching the netroots turn this from an example of their own lack of reporting skills to a spin on McCain's irritability.</p>
<p>Pwned</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It&#039;s the era of &quot;If you&#039;re not with us, you&#039;re against us,&quot; I guess.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Only you &lt;b&gt;are&lt;/b&gt; with them.  So I guess it&#039;s more a case of &quot;If you&#039;re not as loud as we are, you&#039;re against us&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It's the era of "If you're not with us, you're against us," I guess.</p></blockquote>
<p>Only you <b>are</b> with them.  So I guess it's more a case of "If you're not as loud as we are, you're against us".</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It&#039;s funny that James, someone who&#039;s been advocating for McCain since back when everyone thought his campaign was dead, can in any way be considered as pro-Obama. That&#039;s some party you guys have got going over there on the right.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s the era of &quot;If you&#039;re not with us, you&#039;re against us,&quot; I guess.

Indeed, the idea that &lt;em&gt;Think Progress&lt;/em&gt;, which quoted the whole passage and linked to the source, was &quot;lying&quot; on this one is bizarre.  McCain gave a really poor answer to this question and it&#039;s hardly unreasonable to point that out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It's funny that James, someone who's been advocating for McCain since back when everyone thought his campaign was dead, can in any way be considered as pro-Obama. That's some party you guys have got going over there on the right.</p></blockquote>
<p>It's the era of "If you're not with us, you're against us," I guess.</p>
<p>Indeed, the idea that <em>Think Progress</em>, which quoted the whole passage and linked to the source, was "lying" on this one is bizarre.  McCain gave a really poor answer to this question and it's hardly unreasonable to point that out.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s funny that James, someone who&#039;s been advocating for McCain since back when everyone thought his campaign was dead, can in any way be considered as pro-Obama.  That&#039;s some party you guys have got going over there on the right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's funny that James, someone who's been advocating for McCain since back when everyone thought his campaign was dead, can in any way be considered as pro-Obama.  That's some party you guys have got going over there on the right.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Tony:&lt;/strong&gt; Nobody&#039;s seriously under the illustion of 87 cents, Tony, but the enviro-whackjob fantasy of $5.00 gas isn&#039;t going to be going on for long if it happens at all, either. And yes, we can lower the prices by eliminating the foolish stuff we&#039;ve been doing, in the supposed name of the &#039;environment&#039;... For one thing, increasing domestic supply.

&lt;strong&gt;Norman:&lt;/strong&gt; I&#039;m not sure I&#039;m ready to blast James on this one.  He certainly doesn&#039;t have the same habit as one blog leveled a flamethrower at yesterday on their reaction. As an example of that difference, I&#039;ve yet to see a correction run at that other place. 

That said, it seems to me that the whole meme was designed to give Obama a talking point, and avoding hs own bass-ackward stand on the issue... namely he&#039;s firmly convinced we&#039;re not paying enough.  I look to McCain to come out swinging on this over the 4th.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Tony:</strong> Nobody's seriously under the illustion of 87 cents, Tony, but the enviro-whackjob fantasy of $5.00 gas isn't going to be going on for long if it happens at all, either. And yes, we can lower the prices by eliminating the foolish stuff we've been doing, in the supposed name of the 'environment'... For one thing, increasing domestic supply.</p>
<p><strong>Norman:</strong> I'm not sure I'm ready to blast James on this one.  He certainly doesn't have the same habit as one blog leveled a flamethrower at yesterday on their reaction. As an example of that difference, I've yet to see a correction run at that other place. </p>
<p>That said, it seems to me that the whole meme was designed to give Obama a talking point, and avoding hs own bass-ackward stand on the issue... namely he's firmly convinced we're not paying enough.  I look to McCain to come out swinging on this over the 4th.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 05:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the gas prices are one of the more important things to the voter right now.  But no, the president won&#039;t be able to drop gas back down to $0.87.

It&#039;s going to take us a while, but eventually we&#039;ll realize that high gas prices are here to stay.  We can blame the government, or at least yell at them and tell them to fix it, but it doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s going to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the gas prices are one of the more important things to the voter right now.  But no, the president won't be able to drop gas back down to $0.87.</p>
<p>It's going to take us a while, but eventually we'll realize that high gas prices are here to stay.  We can blame the government, or at least yell at them and tell them to fix it, but it doesn't mean it's going to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Many Buy Into Silly McCain Quote &#124; McCain Blogs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Many Buy Into Silly McCain Quote &#124; McCain Blogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] as well as many other lefties, such as the Huffington Post and Balloon Juice, and even some of those on the right (at least originally), bought in to the line of thinking that McCain is divorced from reality, and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] as well as many other lefties, such as the Huffington Post and Balloon Juice, and even some of those on the right (at least originally), bought in to the line of thinking that McCain is divorced from reality, and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: PoliBlog (TM): A Rough Draft of my Thoughts &#187; Not a Smart Thing to Say</title>
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		<dc:creator>PoliBlog (TM): A Rough Draft of my Thoughts &#187; Not a Smart Thing to Say</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] See also: James Joyner. [...]</description>
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