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	<title>Comments on: McCain and Giuliani GOP&#8217;s Best?</title>
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		<title>By: davod</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/mccain_and_giuliani_gops_best/comment-page-1/#comment-260238</link>
		<dc:creator>davod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 10:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chavez is shilling for these two because they are ambiguous on illegal immigration and she is for amnesty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chavez is shilling for these two because they are ambiguous on illegal immigration and she is for amnesty.</p>
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		<title>By: Derrick</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/mccain_and_giuliani_gops_best/comment-page-1/#comment-260207</link>
		<dc:creator>Derrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 06:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;As Dr. Paul pointed out, which keeps being omitted by people referring to the interview, every other civilized nation of the 19th century managed to abolish slavery without a civil war. So it&#039;s not at all unreasonable to think that the US just -might- have been able to pull it off....&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Unfortunately, unlike most countries, we had an entire region of the country that was subsidized based on the free labor provided by slavery and had a racist philosophy that blacks were significantly inferior.  Most civilized countries didn&#039;t have a region willing to go to war over slavery and quite frankly didn&#039;t treat their black slaves as non-humans.  For gods sake, the South still won&#039;t let go of the Confederate Flag, so to think that they would have let go of slavery at that time without a fight is pure fantasy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>As Dr. Paul pointed out, which keeps being omitted by people referring to the interview, every other civilized nation of the 19th century managed to abolish slavery without a civil war. So it's not at all unreasonable to think that the US just -might- have been able to pull it off....</p></blockquote>
<p>Unfortunately, unlike most countries, we had an entire region of the country that was subsidized based on the free labor provided by slavery and had a racist philosophy that blacks were significantly inferior.  Most civilized countries didn't have a region willing to go to war over slavery and quite frankly didn't treat their black slaves as non-humans.  For gods sake, the South still won't let go of the Confederate Flag, so to think that they would have let go of slavery at that time without a fight is pure fantasy.</p>
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		<title>By: a libertarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>a libertarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 04:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, for one, will happily ignore the opinion of someone who dismisses Fred Thompson without even bothering to give a reason.  As for Ron Paul being a &quot;crank,&quot; it&#039;s a sad day indeed when one of the very few candidates the Founding Fathers would have even recognized as an &quot;American&quot; is seen as being &quot;too weird.&quot;

Strangely enough, he&#039;s also probably quite correct about the Civil War.  Had anyone but Lincoln been elected in 1860, the slavery issue might have been resolved peacefully within the succeeding two decades.  As Dr. Paul pointed out, which keeps being omitted by people referring to the interview, every other civilized nation of the 19th century managed to abolish slavery without a civil war.  So it&#039;s not at all unreasonable to think that the US just -might- have been able to pull it off....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, for one, will happily ignore the opinion of someone who dismisses Fred Thompson without even bothering to give a reason.  As for Ron Paul being a "crank," it's a sad day indeed when one of the very few candidates the Founding Fathers would have even recognized as an "American" is seen as being "too weird."</p>
<p>Strangely enough, he's also probably quite correct about the Civil War.  Had anyone but Lincoln been elected in 1860, the slavery issue might have been resolved peacefully within the succeeding two decades.  As Dr. Paul pointed out, which keeps being omitted by people referring to the interview, every other civilized nation of the 19th century managed to abolish slavery without a civil war.  So it's not at all unreasonable to think that the US just -might- have been able to pull it off....</p>
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		<title>By: Tlaloc</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/mccain_and_giuliani_gops_best/comment-page-1/#comment-260060</link>
		<dc:creator>Tlaloc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 22:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know if we had two presidenets, one to deal with foreign policy and the other domestic, I&#039;d vote for Paul for the former in a heartbeat.

I just want to keep his hands off of, well, everything back here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know if we had two presidenets, one to deal with foreign policy and the other domestic, I'd vote for Paul for the former in a heartbeat.</p>
<p>I just want to keep his hands off of, well, everything back here.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Schuler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 22:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, you never seem to tire of stirring up the Underpants Gnomes, do you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, you never seem to tire of stirring up the Underpants Gnomes, do you?</p>
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		<title>By: Louis Lambert</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/mccain_and_giuliani_gops_best/comment-page-1/#comment-260020</link>
		<dc:creator>Louis Lambert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 20:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is quite clear that Ron Paul is the only candidate who is qualified to lead the country as he is the only one with a plan to address the looming financial crisis and reverse the march toward fascism that the other candidates simply ignore as real issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is quite clear that Ron Paul is the only candidate who is qualified to lead the country as he is the only one with a plan to address the looming financial crisis and reverse the march toward fascism that the other candidates simply ignore as real issues.</p>
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		<title>By: bgodley</title>
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		<dc:creator>bgodley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 20:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well lets talk about the &quot;cranks&quot; two main positions, the economy and the war. The economy is now the number one concern among surveyed Republicans.

The reason the economy is more of a hot topic than Iraq is because people&#039;s pocketbooks are at home, our soldiers are in another country. 

People are starting to feel the pinch. We don&#039;t have the home equity to refinance our troubles and many are losing their home. Some experts including Greenspan are predicting a recession, some are predicting worse.

However, Iraq goes hand in hand with the economic thing. We have borrowed silly to finance the war. We are going to spend at least 4 trillion on it. That is trillion with a T. If we didn&#039;t put this on our national credit card with interest each family in the US would have been sent a bill for the war. It simply would have said:

Dear US family,

Even though we didn&#039;t find any WMDs in Iraq we are going to change it into a war on terrorism thing. Even though you don&#039;t support this activity now you did when we started so we are going to send you a bill for your portion.

$100,000.00 (actual figure)

Please send in a check or money order with your tax return. 

If you can&#039;t pay it please forward the bill to your 8 year old or 10 year and do the interest calculation because they are going to have to pay a lot more.

There is a host of supporting economic indicators, historical foreign policy positions, historical Republican Party positions, Bush administration distortions that I could write a 300 page novel about which would support Paul&#039;s ideas. The only thing required is a non closed mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well lets talk about the "cranks" two main positions, the economy and the war. The economy is now the number one concern among surveyed Republicans.</p>
<p>The reason the economy is more of a hot topic than Iraq is because people's pocketbooks are at home, our soldiers are in another country. </p>
<p>People are starting to feel the pinch. We don't have the home equity to refinance our troubles and many are losing their home. Some experts including Greenspan are predicting a recession, some are predicting worse.</p>
<p>However, Iraq goes hand in hand with the economic thing. We have borrowed silly to finance the war. We are going to spend at least 4 trillion on it. That is trillion with a T. If we didn't put this on our national credit card with interest each family in the US would have been sent a bill for the war. It simply would have said:</p>
<p>Dear US family,</p>
<p>Even though we didn't find any WMDs in Iraq we are going to change it into a war on terrorism thing. Even though you don't support this activity now you did when we started so we are going to send you a bill for your portion.</p>
<p>$100,000.00 (actual figure)</p>
<p>Please send in a check or money order with your tax return. </p>
<p>If you can't pay it please forward the bill to your 8 year old or 10 year and do the interest calculation because they are going to have to pay a lot more.</p>
<p>There is a host of supporting economic indicators, historical foreign policy positions, historical Republican Party positions, Bush administration distortions that I could write a 300 page novel about which would support Paul's ideas. The only thing required is a non closed mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Tlaloc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tlaloc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 20:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;James Joyner says...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No actually JJ didn&#039;t say that.  There&#039;s a reason there was a blockquote.  Kind of like how I put the words *you* said in a blockquote to indicate someone else besides me said them.

I realize the concept of a quote is extremely new, having originated a mere ten millenia ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>James Joyner says...</p></blockquote>
<p>No actually JJ didn't say that.  There's a reason there was a blockquote.  Kind of like how I put the words *you* said in a blockquote to indicate someone else besides me said them.</p>
<p>I realize the concept of a quote is extremely new, having originated a mere ten millenia ago.</p>
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		<title>By: commentarytoday@gmail.com</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/mccain_and_giuliani_gops_best/comment-page-1/#comment-260013</link>
		<dc:creator>commentarytoday@gmail.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 20:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since I cannot delete my previous post, I will issue this correction in light my erroneous understanding of who said what regarding Dr.Paul.  It is Linda Chavez who swims without touching the water.  James Joyner, on the other hand dives in head first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I cannot delete my previous post, I will issue this correction in light my erroneous understanding of who said what regarding Dr.Paul.  It is Linda Chavez who swims without touching the water.  James Joyner, on the other hand dives in head first.</p>
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		<title>By: DL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 20:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Linda Chavez is a trumpeter for a divided America. Just as some will vote for Obama simply because he&#039;s black and some will vote for Hillary simply because she&#039;s not a man, Chavez tries to tell us that we should support certain un-conservative candidates because they support ,breaking fundamental American laws, that have Spanish blood. Never mind the fact that legal immigration for many years has radically discriminated in favor of Mexico.



he Special interest politics - &quot;my group versus your group&quot; - has destroyed the historically great melting pot experiment called America. 

The left has successfully divided and fractionalized AAmerica and eventually will conquer. Linda has become, in my book, just another Huffington turncoat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linda Chavez is a trumpeter for a divided America. Just as some will vote for Obama simply because he's black and some will vote for Hillary simply because she's not a man, Chavez tries to tell us that we should support certain un-conservative candidates because they support ,breaking fundamental American laws, that have Spanish blood. Never mind the fact that legal immigration for many years has radically discriminated in favor of Mexico.</p>
<p>he Special interest politics - "my group versus your group" - has destroyed the historically great melting pot experiment called America. </p>
<p>The left has successfully divided and fractionalized AAmerica and eventually will conquer. Linda has become, in my book, just another Huffington turncoat.</p>
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		<title>By: milton pearch</title>
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		<dc:creator>milton pearch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 19:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Linda Chavez is a neocon shill and a political hack. John McCain and Rudy Giuliani are only qualified to lead us further and further into the Iraq quagmire and away from the Constitution. Dr, Paul is the only true conservative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linda Chavez is a neocon shill and a political hack. John McCain and Rudy Giuliani are only qualified to lead us further and further into the Iraq quagmire and away from the Constitution. Dr, Paul is the only true conservative.</p>
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		<title>By: xtrabiggg</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/mccain_and_giuliani_gops_best/comment-page-1/#comment-259994</link>
		<dc:creator>xtrabiggg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 19:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a sad day for journalism when name-calling substitutes for critical thinking, and mere differences of opinion on a subject automatically disqualify someone from consideration.

xtrabiggg
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's a sad day for journalism when name-calling substitutes for critical thinking, and mere differences of opinion on a subject automatically disqualify someone from consideration.</p>
<p>xtrabiggg<br />
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		<title>By: commentarytoday@gmail.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>commentarytoday@gmail.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 19:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James Joyner says,&quot;Ron Paul is a bona fide crank. Last week we learned, for example, that he not only opposes the war in Iraq, but that he regards the Civil War as a mistake as well.&quot;

After considering Joyner&#039;s critical analysis of Dr.Paul&#039;s opinions I venture to guess that James Joyner swims without touching the water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James Joyner says,"Ron Paul is a bona fide crank. Last week we learned, for example, that he not only opposes the war in Iraq, but that he regards the Civil War as a mistake as well."</p>
<p>After considering Joyner's critical analysis of Dr.Paul's opinions I venture to guess that James Joyner swims without touching the water.</p>
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