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		<title>By: davod</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/mccain_declares_cuba_policy_a_success/comment-page-1/#comment-286875</link>
		<dc:creator>davod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I&#039;m not sure Obama is right, in that I&#039;m not sure what we&#039;re going to accomplish talking with Castro, but I figure you&#039;ve got to talk to the people in charge.&quot;

Just like the Syrians and Iranians. Every time we talk with the people in charge they beat up on the opposition or continue to build bad things.

As for the US being held hostage by the Cuban expatriates in Florida, that may be so. But it still doesn&#039;t get past the fact that those in power in Cuba always had the means to make life better for Cubans and they did not. They always had the means to improve the Human Rights record and only did so when it suited them (then threw people back in jail after their aims were met). 

Just remember that a large number of those in and out of the US government were previously advised by Anna Montes the DIAs chief adviser on Cuba.  You know the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.frontpagemag.com/GoPostal/CommentsOverview.aspx?GUID=68f70f15-4217-4b66-94b6-849d0b2c7ac2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Anna Montes&lt;/A&gt;.  who spied for Cuba for over twenty years.

And let&#039;s not get all cuddly with Raul, who is as bad, if not worse, than his brother.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=6708FAE2-8D24-4AF2-8D11-552EA156ADE5&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gorbachev He&#039;s Not&lt;/A&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"I'm not sure Obama is right, in that I'm not sure what we're going to accomplish talking with Castro, but I figure you've got to talk to the people in charge."</p>
<p>Just like the Syrians and Iranians. Every time we talk with the people in charge they beat up on the opposition or continue to build bad things.</p>
<p>As for the US being held hostage by the Cuban expatriates in Florida, that may be so. But it still doesn't get past the fact that those in power in Cuba always had the means to make life better for Cubans and they did not. They always had the means to improve the Human Rights record and only did so when it suited them (then threw people back in jail after their aims were met). </p>
<p>Just remember that a large number of those in and out of the US government were previously advised by Anna Montes the DIAs chief adviser on Cuba.  You know the <a href="http://www.frontpagemag.com/GoPostal/CommentsOverview.aspx?GUID=68f70f15-4217-4b66-94b6-849d0b2c7ac2" rel="nofollow"> Anna Montes</a>.  who spied for Cuba for over twenty years.</p>
<p>And let's not get all cuddly with Raul, who is as bad, if not worse, than his brother.<br />
<a href="http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=6708FAE2-8D24-4AF2-8D11-552EA156ADE5" rel="nofollow">Gorbachev He's Not</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Tano</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/mccain_declares_cuba_policy_a_success/comment-page-1/#comment-286694</link>
		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 03:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we just agree now that John McCain is totally clueless about foreign policy, and singularly unqualified to become POTUS?

I mean, to call a policy a success, when it has failed miserably for over 40 years is beyond misguided, it is even beyond delusional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we just agree now that John McCain is totally clueless about foreign policy, and singularly unqualified to become POTUS?</p>
<p>I mean, to call a policy a success, when it has failed miserably for over 40 years is beyond misguided, it is even beyond delusional.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/mccain_declares_cuba_policy_a_success/comment-page-1/#comment-286651</link>
		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 02:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny how the GOP has no problem at all doing business with the ruthless, brutal communist dictators of China.

But Cuba, which is about as much threat to America as a toy poodle... hey, we are drawing the line!

Moronic at best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny how the GOP has no problem at all doing business with the ruthless, brutal communist dictators of China.</p>
<p>But Cuba, which is about as much threat to America as a toy poodle... hey, we are drawing the line!</p>
<p>Moronic at best.</p>
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		<title>By: tom p</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My question is simply this: Why do we continue to allow a major segment of our foraign policy to be held hostage by a minority in a single state that continues to be fixated on a bygone era?

Millions of Americans fought (and 60,000+ died) in Vietnam, and yet we have normalized relations with them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My question is simply this: Why do we continue to allow a major segment of our foraign policy to be held hostage by a minority in a single state that continues to be fixated on a bygone era?</p>
<p>Millions of Americans fought (and 60,000+ died) in Vietnam, and yet we have normalized relations with them?</p>
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		<title>By: obsessed</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/mccain_declares_cuba_policy_a_success/comment-page-1/#comment-286524</link>
		<dc:creator>obsessed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s another Arizona Republican, Jeff Flake, who has a &lt;a href=&quot;http://flake.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=84164&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;very good handle on the Cuban situation&lt;/a&gt;. Too bad he&#039;s not the one with the commanding lead for the nomination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There's another Arizona Republican, Jeff Flake, who has a <a href="http://flake.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=84164" rel="nofollow">very good handle on the Cuban situation</a>. Too bad he's not the one with the commanding lead for the nomination.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Schuler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder what things would have looked like if the policy had failed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what things would have looked like if the policy had failed.</p>
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		<title>By: FireWolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>FireWolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anyone has read any history on US relations with Cuba either before or after the Cuban missile crisis can see that our foreign policy was stupid.

The containment policies for communism wasn&#039;t very effective when you consider the cost we had to pay for that narrowminded viewpoint. When Truman was president he decided that Stalin was a bum, and after the Churchill &quot;Iron Curtain&quot; speech sealed the fate of the Cold War era.

There is nothing wrong with re-establishing diplomatic relations with a Cuban government sans Fidel. Raul doesn&#039;t have much time for a 74yr old and that country needs to look ahead beyond the castro monopoly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone has read any history on US relations with Cuba either before or after the Cuban missile crisis can see that our foreign policy was stupid.</p>
<p>The containment policies for communism wasn't very effective when you consider the cost we had to pay for that narrowminded viewpoint. When Truman was president he decided that Stalin was a bum, and after the Churchill "Iron Curtain" speech sealed the fate of the Cold War era.</p>
<p>There is nothing wrong with re-establishing diplomatic relations with a Cuban government sans Fidel. Raul doesn't have much time for a 74yr old and that country needs to look ahead beyond the castro monopoly.</p>
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		<title>By: Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course Obama wants to talk to Raul Castro.  He needs to know what to do with those who oppose the change he has in mind for America.  He wants to manage the economy.  Only in socialist/communist dictatorships currently do we have managed economies.  If you believe anything B. Hussein Obama has to say, I want to sell you some property I own in Florida.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course Obama wants to talk to Raul Castro.  He needs to know what to do with those who oppose the change he has in mind for America.  He wants to manage the economy.  Only in socialist/communist dictatorships currently do we have managed economies.  If you believe anything B. Hussein Obama has to say, I want to sell you some property I own in Florida.</p>
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		<title>By: Brainster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brainster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 21:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, I asked the question about the electoral college map; I was very pleased to hear him mention my old home state of New Jersey, because I definitely think he has a chance to break through there.  New York seems unlikely though.  I am hopeful that New Mexico can be won due to McCain&#039;s obvious popularity with Hispanics, but it&#039;s definitely trending blue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, I asked the question about the electoral college map; I was very pleased to hear him mention my old home state of New Jersey, because I definitely think he has a chance to break through there.  New York seems unlikely though.  I am hopeful that New Mexico can be won due to McCain's obvious popularity with Hispanics, but it's definitely trending blue.</p>
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		<title>By: yetanotherjohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>yetanotherjohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 21:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There seems to be a bit of a flip flop on Obama&#039;s part.

Last August he was for easing the travel restrictions part of the embargo.

When Fidel stepped down, he issued a press release including this statement.

&lt;blockquote&gt;If the Cuban leadership begins opening Cuba to meaningful democratic change, the United States must be prepared to begin taking steps to normalize relations and to ease the embargo of the last five decades.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That statement would sure seem to be a pre-condition. Now maybe he issued the statement and then on further consideration changed his mind. Maybe its a Clintonesque parsing of the sentence that allows two seemingly incompatible statements be true at the same time. Or maybe he has decided that his original reaction captured in his initial statement doesn&#039;t play well with the democrats and being a bold candidate for change he quickly changed tack to align himself with the left side of the democratic party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seems to be a bit of a flip flop on Obama's part.</p>
<p>Last August he was for easing the travel restrictions part of the embargo.</p>
<p>When Fidel stepped down, he issued a press release including this statement.</p>
<blockquote><p>If the Cuban leadership begins opening Cuba to meaningful democratic change, the United States must be prepared to begin taking steps to normalize relations and to ease the embargo of the last five decades.</p></blockquote>
<p>That statement would sure seem to be a pre-condition. Now maybe he issued the statement and then on further consideration changed his mind. Maybe its a Clintonesque parsing of the sentence that allows two seemingly incompatible statements be true at the same time. Or maybe he has decided that his original reaction captured in his initial statement doesn't play well with the democrats and being a bold candidate for change he quickly changed tack to align himself with the left side of the democratic party.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 21:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Fidel left office only because of old age and infirmity, rather than anything the US has done&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Agreed.  We pretty much agreed to disagree on this one.

The actual order of questions was reversed -- I did the write-up in journalistic style so the lede matched the headline -- or I&#039;d have just kept pressing rather than doing the Kosovo question.  He&#039;s very generous with his time and allows back-and-forths on these things but it&#039;s not a traditional interview, either.

My sense on Cuba is that politicians have their positions, often for historical and/or electoral reasons, and then do the best they can to make the facts fit their policy.  

I&#039;m not sure Obama is right, in that I&#039;m not sure what we&#039;re going to accomplish talking with Castro, but I figure you&#039;ve got to talk to the people in charge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Fidel left office only because of old age and infirmity, rather than anything the US has done</p></blockquote>
<p>Agreed.  We pretty much agreed to disagree on this one.</p>
<p>The actual order of questions was reversed -- I did the write-up in journalistic style so the lede matched the headline -- or I'd have just kept pressing rather than doing the Kosovo question.  He's very generous with his time and allows back-and-forths on these things but it's not a traditional interview, either.</p>
<p>My sense on Cuba is that politicians have their positions, often for historical and/or electoral reasons, and then do the best they can to make the facts fit their policy.  </p>
<p>I'm not sure Obama is right, in that I'm not sure what we're going to accomplish talking with Castro, but I figure you've got to talk to the people in charge.</p>
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		<title>By: legion</title>
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		<dc:creator>legion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 21:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. The amount of unadulterated BS in McCain&#039;s remarks is impressive.
&lt;blockquote&gt;I noted that we had managed to have unconditional talks with the likes of Joe Stalin and Chairman Mao. While conceding that point, he thinks Raul is a particularly bad fellow...&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Really, John? Raul Freaking Castro is a &quot;particularly bad fellow&quot; compared to Stalin and Mao? &lt;em&gt;Really?&lt;/em&gt; I double-dog dare him to support that statement. I triple-dog dare any mainstream interviewer to do a follow-up on it.
&lt;blockquote&gt;McCain begged to differ, saying our policy was containment and it had worked. He noted that Cuba’s ability to expand their influence to far-flung places in Africa and even inside Latin America had been eliminated.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
What utter crap. Cuba&#039;s not influencing many other places any more, but it&#039;s because of the collapse of the USSR (and resulting loss of their aegis) that rendered them moot, not anything we specifically did to &lt;em&gt;Cuba&lt;/em&gt;. The fact that Fidel left office only because of old age and infirmity, rather than anything the US has done, pretty much puts the lie to McCain&#039;s entire pile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. The amount of unadulterated BS in McCain's remarks is impressive.</p>
<blockquote><p>I noted that we had managed to have unconditional talks with the likes of Joe Stalin and Chairman Mao. While conceding that point, he thinks Raul is a particularly bad fellow...</p></blockquote>
<p>Really, John? Raul Freaking Castro is a "particularly bad fellow" compared to Stalin and Mao? <em>Really?</em> I double-dog dare him to support that statement. I triple-dog dare any mainstream interviewer to do a follow-up on it.</p>
<blockquote><p>McCain begged to differ, saying our policy was containment and it had worked. He noted that Cuba&rsquo;s ability to expand their influence to far-flung places in Africa and even inside Latin America had been eliminated.</p></blockquote>
<p>What utter crap. Cuba's not influencing many other places any more, but it's because of the collapse of the USSR (and resulting loss of their aegis) that rendered them moot, not anything we specifically did to <em>Cuba</em>. The fact that Fidel left office only because of old age and infirmity, rather than anything the US has done, pretty much puts the lie to McCain's entire pile.</p>
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