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		<title>By: BlogRunner: McCain Hits Romney</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlogRunner: McCain Hits Romney</dc:creator>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] McCain Hits RomneyMitt Romney has been trying to make quite a bit of political hay out of the compromise immigration bill &#8212; he sees it as one of John McCain's key weaknesses as relates to the Republican base and a great way to differentiate himself as the One True Conserv...  BLOG POST &raquo;Ryan Sager Latest Politics Blog Monday, May 21TAGS: &#8226;  Stories &gt; Immigration Agreement &#160; &#8226;  BlogRunner &gt; Politics &#160; &#8226;  BlogRunner &gt; Immigration &#160; &#8226;  BlogRunner &gt; Mitt Romney &#160; &#8226;  BlogRunner &gt; John McCain &#160;  more  Who's Blogging  View as List View as Thread   Most Relevant First Most Recent First McCain on Immigration Bill James Joyner Outside the Beltway  elap('1179769400');I just got off a blogger conference call with Senator John McCain. The main topic, as one might imagine, was the immigration bill he and Senator Teddy Kennedy have put together ... Other participants' takes: Ed Morrissey, Soren Dayton, Ryan Sager, Ann AlthouseMcCain Conference Call Ed Morrissey Captain's Quarters  elap('1179768748');I just completed a conference call with John McCain which meant to cover a wide range of topics -- but in the end focused almost entirely on immigration ... Other blogger takes: Outside the BeltwayMcCain on Romney Ryan Lizza The New Republic: The Plank  elap('1179784232');Via The New York Sun's political blog... McCain still unhinged. Nico Pitney Think Progress  elap('1179771218');Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) offers this response to criticism of his immigration plan: "In the case of Governor Romney, maybe I should wait a couple of weeks and see if it changes, because it's changed in less than a year from his position a year before... Varmints! Ben Smith POLITICO Ben Smith  elap('1179769860');And some days... McCain on McCain v. Cornyn Jonathan Rick No Straw Men  elap('1179750540');From the senator's opening statement during a blogger conference call (rough transcription, because it's live):The exchange between myself and my friend John Cornyn has been a bit exaggerated ... Update: Ryan Sager posts McCain's words, which prompts a rather mild response from Romney'sLiveblogging Glenn Reynolds Instapundit.com  elap('1179773374');A conference call with McCain. UPDATE: More from Ryan Sager and James Joyner. ANOTHER UPDATE: Still more from Capt. Ed.... Unhinged McCain apologizes for one outburst, starts another Steve Benen The Carpetbagger Report  elap('1179774034');On Friday, during a back-room discussion on the new immigration-reform package, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz) started shouting at Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), who dared to disagree with him on the legislation ... Someone asked McCain today about the former governor's position on the issue.Blowing Smoke Up Their Own Asses Bill Quick Daily Pundit  elap('1179777411');McCain on Immigration Bill » Outside The Beltway | OTB His position and mine are identical at a high level, although we likely disagree on some of the nuts and bolts ... McCain on Immigration Bill Â» Outside The Beltway / OTBMeow  David Corn  elap('1179779610');The Nastiest Comment of the 2008 Presidential Campaign (So Far) Award goes to...John McCain. From the political blog of The New York Daily Sun: Mitt Romney has been trying to make quite a bit of political hay out of the...  McCain Hits RomneyRYAN SAGER Latest Politics Blog elap('1179764760');Mitt Romney has been trying to make quite a bit of political hay out of the compromise immigration bill &#8212; he sees it as one of John McCain's key weaknesses as relates to the Republican base and a great way to differentiate himself as the One True Conserv... Varmints!POLITICO Ben Smith elap('1179769860');Ben Smith: And some days... McCain still unhinged. Think Progress elap('1179771218');Nico Pitney: Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) offers this response to criticism of his immigration plan: "In the case of Governor Romney, maybe I should wait a couple of weeks and see if it changes, because it's changed in less than a year from his position a year before... McCain on Immigration Bill Outside the Beltway elap('1179769400');DISCUSSIONJames Joyner: I just got off a blogger conference call with Senator John McCain. The main topic, as one might imagine, was the immigration bill he and Senator Teddy Kennedy have put together... Other participants' takes: Ed Morrissey, Soren Dayton, Ryan Sager, Ann Althouse McCain Conference Call Captain's Quarters elap('1179768748');Ed Morrissey: I just completed a conference call with John McCain which meant to cover a wide range of topics -- but in the end focused almost entirely on immigration... Other blogger takes: Outside the Beltway Blowing Smoke Up Their Own AssesDaily Pundit elap('1179777411');Bill Quick: McCain on Immigration Bill » Outside The Beltway | OTB His position and mine are identical at a high level, although we likely disagree on some of the nuts and bolts... McCain on Immigration Bill Â» Outside The Beltway / OTB Liveblogging Instapundit.com elap('1179773374');Glenn Reynolds: A conference call with McCain. UPDATE: More from Ryan Sager and James Joyner. ANOTHER UPDATE: Still more from Capt. Ed.... Unhinged McCain apologizes for one outburst, starts anotherThe Carpetbagger Report elap('1179774034');Steve Benen: On Friday, during a back-room discussion on the new immigration-reform package, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz) started shouting at Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), who dared to disagree with him on the legislation... Someone asked McCain today about the former governor's position on the issue. Liveblogging Instapundit.com elap('1179773374');Glenn Reynolds: A conference call with McCain. UPDATE: More from Ryan Sager and James Joyner. ANOTHER UPDATE: Still more from Capt. Ed.... MeowDavid Corn elap('1179779610');The Nastiest Comment of the 2008 Presidential Campaign (So Far) Award goes to...John McCain. From the political blog of The New York Daily Sun: Mitt Romney has been trying to make quite a bit of political hay out of the... McCain on Romney The New Republic: The Plank elap('1179784232');Ryan Lizza: Via The New York Sun's political blog... Unhinged McCain apologizes for one outburst, starts anotherThe Carpetbagger Report elap('1179774034');Steve Benen: On Friday, during a back-room discussion on the new immigration-reform package, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz) started shouting at Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), who dared to disagree with him on the legislation... As Ryan Lizza noted, it kind of helps â€śreinforce the idea that McCain is a little thin-skinned and quick to fly off the handle,â€ť doesn't it? McCain on McCain v. CornynNo Straw Men elap('1179750540');Jonathan Rick: From the senator's opening statement during a blogger conference call (rough transcription, because it's live):The exchange between myself and my friend John Cornyn has been a bit exaggerated... Update: Ryan Sager posts McCain's words, which prompts a rather mild response from Romney's  Related ArticlesMcCain assails Romney on immigration LIZ SIDOTI The Associated Press elap('1179786060');Republican John McCain accused presidential rival Mitt Romney of flip-flopping on immigration Monday and said with sarcasm: "Maybe his solution will be to get out his small varmint gun and drive those Guatemalans off his lawn."Romney's immigration stance pleases South Carolina Republicans  Boston Globe elap('1179684002');The crowd at South Carolina's Republican convention cheered yesterday when former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney criticized a new immigration proposal and booed a key ally of US Senator John McCain when he defended it.COLUMBIA...DISCUSSIONBlogRunner &gt; Politics   BlogRunner &gt; Immigration   BlogRunner &gt; Mitt Romney   BlogRunner &gt; John McCain   Romney Slams Immigration Plan JIM DAVENPORT The Associated Press elap('1179658802');(Columbia, S.C.) The crowd at South Carolina's Republican convention cheered Saturday when Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney criticized a new immigration proposal and booed a key ally of U.S. Sen....BlogRunner &gt; Politics   BlogRunner &gt; Immigration   BlogRunner &gt; Mitt Romney   S.C. GOP Cheers Romney Immigration Attacks  CBS News elap('1179658802');The former Massachusetts Governor blasted the Senate's immigration bill before delegates assembled for South Carolina's Republican State Party Convention.BlogRunner &gt; Politics   BlogRunner &gt; Immigration   BlogRunner &gt; Mitt Romney   Stories &gt; Immigration Agreement   Romney Blasts Immigration Bill  Wall Street Journal elap('1179657600');The crowd at South Carolina's Republican convention cheered Saturday when former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney criticized a new immigration proposal and booed a key ally of U.S. Sen. John McCain when he defended it.BlogRunner &gt; Politics   BlogRunner &gt; Immigration   BlogRunner &gt; Mitt Romney   BlogRunner &gt; John McCain   Stories &gt; Immigration Agreement   Related BlogsMcCain Romney Slam: The AudioRYAN SAGER Latest Politics Blog elap('1179779160');Here's the audio of that McCain-Romney slam. And, based on that audio, here's a bit more complete transcript of John McCain's statement: "I'm a little disappointed in Fred, &lsquo;cause, again, he had a very &#8212; a different position not that long ago.BlogRunner &gt; Politics   BlogRunner &gt; Mitt Romney   BlogRunner &gt; John McCain   Romney Responds to McCainRYAN SAGER Latest Politics Blog elap('1179775320');The Romney campaign responds to John McCain's rather harsh attack on immigration: "Governor Romney has been very clear that he opposes this immigration agreement, which clearly falls short of the American public's expectations.BlogRunner &gt; Politics   BlogRunner &gt; Immigration   BlogRunner &gt; Mitt Romney   BlogRunner &gt; John McCain   McCain Raps Romney, Thompson Over Immigration RICK KLEIN Political Radar elap('1179774314');ABC News' Rick Klein reports: It sure doesn't look like Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., is afraid of the politics of immigration.On a conference call today with conservative bloggers, McCain launched his sharpest attack yet on former governor Mitt Romney...BlogRunner &gt; Politics   BlogRunner &gt; Immigration   BlogRunner &gt; Mitt Romney   BlogRunner &gt; John McCain   McCain Snaps Again on Immigration Kicking Ass elap('1179773465');Asked by Ryan Sager of the New York Sun about Mitt Romney and Fred Thompson using the immigration issue against him, McCain said he was "disappointed" in Thompson, but reserved his harshest comments for Romney.BlogRunner &gt; Politics   BlogRunner &gt; Mitt Romney   McCain Blasts RomneyPHILIP KLEIN AmSpec Blog elap('1179771717');John McCain escalated his war of words with Mitt Romney, ripping his rival for flip-flopping on the immigration issue.BlogRunner &gt; Politics   BlogRunner &gt; Immigration   BlogRunner &gt; Mitt Romney   BlogRunner &gt; John McCain   McCain vs. Romney STEPHEN SPRUIELL The Corner on National Review Online elap('1179771074');The New York Sun s Ryan Sager just asked McCain to comment on Mitt Romney s public criticism of the immigration compromise. 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John McCain of Arizona clashed sharply in a Republican presidential debate in South Carolina.BlogRunner &gt; Politics   BlogRunner &gt; Mitt Romney   BlogRunner &gt; Rudy Giuliani   BlogRunner &gt; John McCain   &ldquo;My view is, we ought to double Guantanamo&rdquo;KAISERBENJAMIN The Progressive Blog Alliance HQ - The central node of the PBA elap('1179704943');Thank you Mitt Romney for that jewel of wisdom. So basically McCain is the only major Republican candidate against American use of torture. Oh, Rudy and Romney can say they want "enhanced interrogation techniques" but what does that actually mean?BlogRunner &gt; Politics   BlogRunner &gt; Mitt Romney   Romney Leads In IowaGREG Rhymes With Right elap('1179702590');At least among those who count -- the folks who actually participate in the caucuses. Mitt Romney has sprinted ahead of presidential competitors John McCain and Rudy Giuliani in a new Iowa Poll of likely Republican caucus participants. 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		<title>By: Gekkobear</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/mccain_on_immigration_bill/comment-page-1/#comment-127414</link>
		<dc:creator>Gekkobear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 17:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the triggers in this bill, that only come into effect once Congress agrees to secure the border.

Sure it doesn&#039;t require the border to actually be secured, but hey, neither did the 1986 bill, and that one was the last immigration bill we&#039;d ever need because we&#039;d secure the border once it passed.

Much like the 1965 Immigration bill that secured the border and was the last one we&#039;d ever need.

How could anyone not believe that this isn&#039;t the last bill we&#039;ll ever need... until 2029 of course when we have 35 million immigrants who really need amnesty because we didn&#039;t really secure the border... but that&#039;s 20 years out.  Everyone knows &quot;permanent&quot; = 20 years or so.

But securing the border first, then giving amnesty, that isn&#039;t an option.  Because everyone knows we&#039;ll never do anything to actually secure the border.  We will however promise to do things to secure the border, so long as we can go back on those promises after the amnesty is in effect.  Kind of like the 700 miles of &quot;border fence&quot; that were voted in.

Anyone seen any fence?  Anyone believe 700 miles of fence will ever be built on the border?

I will glady secure the border Tuesday for Illegal Immigrant Amnesty today. - McCain/Wimpy ... who can tell the difference?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the triggers in this bill, that only come into effect once Congress agrees to secure the border.</p>
<p>Sure it doesn't require the border to actually be secured, but hey, neither did the 1986 bill, and that one was the last immigration bill we'd ever need because we'd secure the border once it passed.</p>
<p>Much like the 1965 Immigration bill that secured the border and was the last one we'd ever need.</p>
<p>How could anyone not believe that this isn't the last bill we'll ever need... until 2029 of course when we have 35 million immigrants who really need amnesty because we didn't really secure the border... but that's 20 years out.  Everyone knows "permanent" = 20 years or so.</p>
<p>But securing the border first, then giving amnesty, that isn't an option.  Because everyone knows we'll never do anything to actually secure the border.  We will however promise to do things to secure the border, so long as we can go back on those promises after the amnesty is in effect.  Kind of like the 700 miles of "border fence" that were voted in.</p>
<p>Anyone seen any fence?  Anyone believe 700 miles of fence will ever be built on the border?</p>
<p>I will glady secure the border Tuesday for Illegal Immigrant Amnesty today. - McCain/Wimpy ... who can tell the difference?</p>
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		<title>By: Right Voices &#187; Blog Archive &#187; &#8220;Much like 90% of blacks vote Democrat, the latinos - a HUGE group of people - will vote (D).&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Right Voices &#187; Blog Archive &#187; &#8220;Much like 90% of blacks vote Democrat, the latinos - a HUGE group of people - will vote (D).&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 12:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Â McCain on Immigration Bill [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Power Line To Go</title>
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		<dc:creator>Power Line To Go</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 12:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] This afternoon I sat in on the McCain blogger conference call at the kind invitation of Patrick Hynes. John Hinderaker was also on the call, along with Ann Althouse, Ed Morrissey, James Joyner, NRO&#039;s Stephen Spruiell (and here), and the New York Sun&#039;s Ryan Sager, among others (links are to comments on the call). [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] This afternoon I sat in on the McCain blogger conference call at the kind invitation of Patrick Hynes. John Hinderaker was also on the call, along with Ann Althouse, Ed Morrissey, James Joyner, NRO's Stephen Spruiell (and here), and the New York Sun's Ryan Sager, among others (links are to comments on the call). [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: Sadly, No! &#187; Powerline: Behind The Magic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sadly, No! &#187; Powerline: Behind The Magic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 04:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This afternoon I sat in on the McCain blogger conference call at the kind invitation of Patrick Hynes. John Hinderaker was also on the call, along with Ann Althouse, Ed Morrissey, James Joyner, NRO&#8217;s Stephen Spruiell (and here), and the New York Sun&#8217;s Ryan Sager, among others (links are to comments on the call). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This afternoon I sat in on the McCain blogger conference call at the kind invitation of Patrick Hynes. John Hinderaker was also on the call, along with Ann Althouse, Ed Morrissey, James Joyner, NRO&#8217;s Stephen Spruiell (and here), and the New York Sun&#8217;s Ryan Sager, among others (links are to comments on the call). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: floyd</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/mccain_on_immigration_bill/comment-page-1/#comment-127276</link>
		<dc:creator>floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 03:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, John thinks that if we would just listen to him long enough then the &quot;T&quot; in TREASON would just fade into a fog of scented perfume and we would begin to see &amp; smell it as REASON?? 
  HOGWASH! A skunk is a skunk, not a kitty!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, John thinks that if we would just listen to him long enough then the "T" in TREASON would just fade into a fog of scented perfume and we would begin to see &amp; smell it as REASON??<br />
  HOGWASH! A skunk is a skunk, not a kitty!</p>
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		<title>By: Exploring McCainia &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Reasonably Concise Summary of McCain New Media/Blogger Conference Call, Monday, May 21 - McCain Takes On Romney on Immigration: &#8220;Maybe he can get out his small-varmint gun and drive those Guatemalans o</title>
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		<dc:creator>Exploring McCainia &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Reasonably Concise Summary of McCain New Media/Blogger Conference Call, Monday, May 21 - McCain Takes On Romney on Immigration: &#8220;Maybe he can get out his small-varmint gun and drive those Guatemalans o</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 02:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Question #8 - Â James Joyner - Outside the Beltway - he asked about immigration.Â  He also has a summary of the complete conference call in a post titled &#8220;McCain on Immigration Bill&#8221;. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Question #8 - Â James Joyner - Outside the Beltway - he asked about immigration.Â  He also has a summary of the complete conference call in a post titled &#8220;McCain on Immigration Bill&#8221;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/mccain_on_immigration_bill/comment-page-1/#comment-127261</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 01:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The problem is having a large group cross our border, refusing to learn English and not adopt American culture then claiming it the land belongs to Mexico anyway.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Wait, large groups of people coming to our country, refusing to live by our traditions or speak our language, claiming ownership of our land?  Hell, sounds like they&#039;ve been Americanized already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The problem is having a large group cross our border, refusing to learn English and not adopt American culture then claiming it the land belongs to Mexico anyway.</p></blockquote>
<p>Wait, large groups of people coming to our country, refusing to live by our traditions or speak our language, claiming ownership of our land?  Hell, sounds like they've been Americanized already.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/mccain_on_immigration_bill/comment-page-1/#comment-127258</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 00:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definition of the problem is more then people living in â€śthe shadowsâ€ť or â€ślivingâ€ť in the shadows. The problem is we have borders that anyone could waltz across. The problem is having hospitals going bankrupt because that canâ€™t turn away illegal immigrants. The problem is having a large group cross our border, refusing to learn English and not adopt American culture then claiming it the land belongs to Mexico anyway. The list of problems due to an uncontrolled border goes on and on.

This bill from what I have heard is B.S. so far. Claiming the definition of a control border is 18,000 new border agents, 330 mile of fence, and a handful of other measure is outrageous.  What happen to the 700-mile of fence that already past? It was defunded which is probably what will happen to most of the border security in this bill. Same old song and dance. Prove that they are serious about securing the border first then we can talk about worker programs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definition of the problem is more then people living in â€śthe shadowsâ€ť or â€ślivingâ€ť in the shadows. The problem is we have borders that anyone could waltz across. The problem is having hospitals going bankrupt because that can&rsquo;t turn away illegal immigrants. The problem is having a large group cross our border, refusing to learn English and not adopt American culture then claiming it the land belongs to Mexico anyway. The list of problems due to an uncontrolled border goes on and on.</p>
<p>This bill from what I have heard is B.S. so far. Claiming the definition of a control border is 18,000 new border agents, 330 mile of fence, and a handful of other measure is outrageous.  What happen to the 700-mile of fence that already past? It was defunded which is probably what will happen to most of the border security in this bill. Same old song and dance. Prove that they are serious about securing the border first then we can talk about worker programs.</p>
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		<title>By: ProfessorBainbridge.com Â®</title>
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		<dc:creator>ProfessorBainbridge.com Â®</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 00:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Joyner on McCain on Immigration...&lt;/strong&gt;

James Joyner reports on a blogger conference call with John McCain on the immigration reform proposal. Go read the whole thing, but here&#039;s a few highlights:He argues that we simply must get a handle on the problem, that the status...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Joyner on McCain on Immigration...</strong></p>
<p>James Joyner reports on a blogger conference call with John McCain on the immigration reform proposal. Go read the whole thing, but here's a few highlights:He argues that we simply must get a handle on the problem, that the status...</p>
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		<title>By: Triumph</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/mccain_on_immigration_bill/comment-page-1/#comment-127239</link>
		<dc:creator>Triumph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 22:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;His solution for dealing with it, which is a common theme with McCain, is that heâ€™d do it gradually by reaching out in town hall meetings and otherwise having a conversation with the American people. He says heâ€™s had great success at the small level doing that, saying that he sees visible conversion in peopleâ€™s attitudes once he explains the issue to them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Was this &quot;common theme&quot; put in place when he decided to be the prime apologist for Bush&#039;s Iraq escalation &quot;strategy.&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>His solution for dealing with it, which is a common theme with McCain, is that he&rsquo;d do it gradually by reaching out in town hall meetings and otherwise having a conversation with the American people. He says he&rsquo;s had great success at the small level doing that, saying that he sees visible conversion in people&rsquo;s attitudes once he explains the issue to them.</p></blockquote>
<p>Was this "common theme" put in place when he decided to be the prime apologist for Bush's Iraq escalation "strategy."?</p>
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		<title>By: JohnG</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/mccain_on_immigration_bill/comment-page-1/#comment-127234</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 21:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the problem here is definition of the problem.  If you define the problem as not liking people living here IN THE SHADOWS then you will reach one conclusion.  If you define the problem as not liking people LIVING HERE in the shadows then you will reach a completely different solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the problem here is definition of the problem.  If you define the problem as not liking people living here IN THE SHADOWS then you will reach one conclusion.  If you define the problem as not liking people LIVING HERE in the shadows then you will reach a completely different solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Wake up America</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/mccain_on_immigration_bill/comment-page-1/#comment-127214</link>
		<dc:creator>Wake up America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 20:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;To McCain: Humanitarian Issue, my ASS....&lt;/strong&gt;

Immigrants that come here LEGALLY are welcomed with open arms, but any person that, as their first act, commits a crime by entering our country ILLEGALLY should not be rewarded for it, because if they cannot respect the very first law of entering thi.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>To McCain: Humanitarian Issue, my ASS....</strong></p>
<p>Immigrants that come here LEGALLY are welcomed with open arms, but any person that, as their first act, commits a crime by entering our country ILLEGALLY should not be rewarded for it, because if they cannot respect the very first law of entering thi.....</p>
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		<title>By: Daily Pundit &#187; Blowing Smoke Up Their Own Asses</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/mccain_on_immigration_bill/comment-page-1/#comment-127209</link>
		<dc:creator>Daily Pundit &#187; Blowing Smoke Up Their Own Asses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 20:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] McCain on Immigration Bill Â» Outside The Beltway &#124; OTB  His position and mine are identical at a high level, although we likely disagree on some of the nuts and bolts. He argues that we simply must get a handle on the problem, that the status quo is unacceptable, and that a bill that would round up all 12 million illegal aliens is neither politically possible nor feasible. He strongly resists the idea that making people pay a fine and endure other penalties constitutes â€śamnesty,â€ť a position Steve Verdon has articulated at OTB quite thoroughly. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] McCain on Immigration Bill Â» Outside The Beltway | OTB  His position and mine are identical at a high level, although we likely disagree on some of the nuts and bolts. He argues that we simply must get a handle on the problem, that the status quo is unacceptable, and that a bill that would round up all 12 million illegal aliens is neither politically possible nor feasible. He strongly resists the idea that making people pay a fine and endure other penalties constitutes â€śamnesty,â€ť a position Steve Verdon has articulated at OTB quite thoroughly. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/mccain_on_immigration_bill/comment-page-1/#comment-127208</link>
		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 20:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does not bode well for McCain&#039;s prospects that he is taking time out of his day to field questions from Ann Althouse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does not bode well for McCain's prospects that he is taking time out of his day to field questions from Ann Althouse.</p>
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