Comments on: McCain Rising, Romney Fading in New Hampshire http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/mccain_rising_romney_fading_in_new_hampshire/ Online Journal of Politics and Foreign Affairs Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:49:13 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Anderson http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/mccain_rising_romney_fading_in_new_hampshire/comment-page-1/#comment-258020 Anderson Thu, 27 Dec 2007 01:42:29 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2007/12/mccain_rising_romney_fading_in_new_hampshire/#comment-258020 The Left's Hillary-hatred pales in comparison to the Right's McCainophobia. What both parties need to be doing is going back to the drawing board and revising or abandoning the party-primary system. The Left's Hillary-hatred pales in comparison to the Right's McCainophobia.

What both parties need to be doing is going back to the drawing board and revising or abandoning the party-primary system.

]]> By: Tlaloc http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/mccain_rising_romney_fading_in_new_hampshire/comment-page-1/#comment-257857 Tlaloc Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:44:06 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2007/12/mccain_rising_romney_fading_in_new_hampshire/#comment-257857 But Dave, The joy of this primary season is that each and every first tier candidate has a slice of the base that hates their guts with a passion (I do not count Thompson here as first tier, maybe he'll surprise me in Iowa, but I suspect he's fading away to irrelevance). Many Socons *hate* Giuliani. Many Fiscons *hate* Huckabee. People with an aversion to plastic *hate* Romney. It's quite the spectacle, given how sedate and predetermined most GOP primaries are. But Dave,
The joy of this primary season is that each and every first tier candidate has a slice of the base that hates their guts with a passion (I do not count Thompson here as first tier, maybe he'll surprise me in Iowa, but I suspect he's fading away to irrelevance).

Many Socons *hate* Giuliani.
Many Fiscons *hate* Huckabee.
People with an aversion to plastic *hate* Romney.

It's quite the spectacle, given how sedate and predetermined most GOP primaries are.

]]> By: Not the senator http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/mccain_rising_romney_fading_in_new_hampshire/comment-page-1/#comment-257851 Not the senator Wed, 26 Dec 2007 19:36:02 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2007/12/mccain_rising_romney_fading_in_new_hampshire/#comment-257851 <blockquote>He’s a proven leader with a substantial record of executive success.</blockquote> Actually, after his one lackluster term as Massachusetts Governor, all polls showed that he would not win re-election and voter dislike of Romney condemned his Lt. Governor Kerry Healey to a humiliating and crushing defeat in 2006. His poor performance ended 16 consecutive years of GOP control of the Governors office. The voters in NH are just following the same learning curve as Mass voters regarding Romney - Familiarity breeds contempt.

He’s a proven leader with a substantial record of executive success.

Actually, after his one lackluster term as Massachusetts Governor, all polls showed that he would not win re-election and voter dislike of Romney condemned his Lt. Governor Kerry Healey to a humiliating and crushing defeat in 2006. His poor performance ended 16 consecutive years of GOP control of the Governors office.

The voters in NH are just following the same learning curve as Mass voters regarding Romney - Familiarity breeds contempt.

]]> By: The Heretik : Romney Redux http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/mccain_rising_romney_fading_in_new_hampshire/comment-page-1/#comment-257841 The Heretik : Romney Redux Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:45:51 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2007/12/mccain_rising_romney_fading_in_new_hampshire/#comment-257841 [...] not just Romney’s hair that is slick here. In New Hampshire, the people see there is no there there. “[Romney] has not been able to convince the people of this state that he’s the [...] [...] not just Romney’s hair that is slick here. In New Hampshire, the people see there is no there there. “[Romney] has not been able to convince the people of this state that he’s the [...]

]]> By: Dave Schuler http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/mccain_rising_romney_fading_in_new_hampshire/comment-page-1/#comment-257840 Dave Schuler Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:44:05 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2007/12/mccain_rising_romney_fading_in_new_hampshire/#comment-257840 The commenter above exemplifies the hostility towards McCain I've seen in substantial portions of the Republican base. Unfortunately for them other than McCain the choice is either Romney or Huckabee. In either case Republicans will be likely to lose the White House. The commenter above exemplifies the hostility towards McCain I've seen in substantial portions of the Republican base. Unfortunately for them other than McCain the choice is either Romney or Huckabee. In either case Republicans will be likely to lose the White House.

]]> By: Jen http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/mccain_rising_romney_fading_in_new_hampshire/comment-page-1/#comment-257828 Jen Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:01:26 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2007/12/mccain_rising_romney_fading_in_new_hampshire/#comment-257828 <strong>You think open borders and Amnesty for Illegals McCain is the kind of conviction we need? McCain's convictions? LOL. You mean opposing Bush's tax cuts before being forced to support them NOW to be acceptable to GOP voters? </strong> You mean McCain voting against same sex marriage in 1996 but opposing the ban NOW to pander to independents? <strong>You mean VOTING TO GIVE ILLEGAL ALIENS OUR SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS until recently deciding that that might be a little issue with voters? </strong> ****Gay Marriage: McCain Told Iowa State Students: "I think Gay Marriage should be allowed . . . I don't have any problem with that" . . . after his aide got ahold of him during the commercial break he said "I do not believe that Gay Marriages should be legal" ****Ethanol: McCain was anti-ethanol when he was skipping Iowa in 1999. In 2006 he was pro-ethanol while campaigning in Iowa . Now he's pretty anti-ethanol again that he's decided to bypass Iowa. (THIS ONE IS A TRUE FLIP FLOP . . . Been on both sides of the issue multiple times) ****Confederate flag: Was both for and against state promotion of the flag in SC during the 1999 race. Said it was "a symbol of racism and slavery" . . . 3 days later he recanted (AKA "pandered") saying "Personally, I see the flag as a symbol of heritage" ****Law of Sea Convention: Long-time vocal supporter of the Law, now (just this last month) he's against it. ****Immigration Reform: He now opposes the DREAM Act to legalize illegal alien students (though that was previously for it). Also, he's violently backed off his McCain-Kennedy Immigration bill and is supporting the "Secure the Border First" bill. Riiiiiiigt. Shamnesty King sees the light? And you guys buy it? PUHleeez. It's comical how many flip flops McCain has managed and the MSM just looks the other way. You think open borders and Amnesty for Illegals McCain is the kind of conviction we need? McCain's convictions? LOL. You mean opposing Bush's tax cuts before being forced to support them NOW to be acceptable to GOP voters?

You mean McCain voting against same sex marriage in 1996 but opposing the ban NOW to pander to independents?

You mean VOTING TO GIVE ILLEGAL ALIENS OUR SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS until recently deciding that that might be a little issue with voters?

****Gay Marriage:
McCain Told Iowa State Students: "I think Gay Marriage should be allowed . . . I don't have any problem with that" . . . after his aide got ahold of him during the commercial break he said "I do not believe that Gay Marriages should be legal"

****Ethanol:
McCain was anti-ethanol when he was skipping Iowa in 1999. In 2006 he was pro-ethanol while campaigning in Iowa . Now he's pretty anti-ethanol again that he's decided to bypass Iowa. (THIS ONE IS A TRUE FLIP FLOP . . . Been on both sides of the issue multiple times)

****Confederate flag:
Was both for and against state promotion of the flag in SC during the 1999 race. Said it was "a symbol of racism and slavery" . . . 3 days later he recanted (AKA "pandered") saying "Personally, I see the flag as a symbol of heritage"

****Law of Sea Convention:
Long-time vocal supporter of the Law, now (just this last month) he's against it.

****Immigration Reform:
He now opposes the DREAM Act to legalize illegal alien students (though that was previously for it).
Also, he's violently backed off his McCain-Kennedy Immigration bill and is supporting the "Secure the Border First" bill. Riiiiiiigt. Shamnesty King sees the light? And you guys buy it? PUHleeez.

It's comical how many flip flops McCain has managed and the MSM just looks the other way.

]]> By: Don http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/mccain_rising_romney_fading_in_new_hampshire/comment-page-1/#comment-257827 Don Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:55:12 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2007/12/mccain_rising_romney_fading_in_new_hampshire/#comment-257827 Picking a leader from this pack is like having to buy all your Christmas presents from the local Mom and Pop knick-knack store: everything looks cheap and unworkable. That being said, I surely wish Thompson would make a strong move. Picking a leader from this pack is like having to buy all your Christmas presents from the local Mom and Pop knick-knack store: everything looks cheap and unworkable.
That being said, I surely wish Thompson would make a strong move.

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