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		<title>By: Ardent Avow</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/mccain_surge/comment-page-1/#comment-521688</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardent Avow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 01:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Belated reply I know - but i have been watching &#039;the&#039; victory.

Marx &#039;the man&#039; spent 14 hours a day researching and working on his contribution to humanity. As a newspaper editor he produced countless works. You seem to telegraph hard work and production as being solely the realm of &#039;free market capitalist, right whingers&#039; - no one could question Marx&#039;s work ethic.

I wonder if you have ever read Marx - I suspect not, to frightened you might &#039;like&#039; what he has to say and &#039;catch something&#039;. Marx never spoke of communism as an alternative to communism - rather it&#039;s evolutionary fulfillment within the capitalist epoch. You right whingers don&#039;t seem to be able to grasp that concept - communism isn&#039;t the enemy of capitalism - but rather it&#039;s fulfillment - don&#039;t be scared of it - embrace it. regardless, Marx says it is inevitable - the natural conditions will determine this. It is happening now - public funding of private institutions, state protection and propping of the stock market. Keep fighting the cold war all you like - wont change the momentum.

Marx was the ultimate humanist - he wanted to free workers and the underclass from elite bondage and control - to suggest their is some form of disharmony between the concept of liberty and Marx&#039;s ideas (again you use the phrase &#039;Marxists&#039; as &#039;Christian is used to describe followers of Christ - maka no senso) - but the idea that disharmony exists is really, rather fanciful.

Anyone who espouses the ideas of Marx is ultimately about freedom and liberty. Right whinger conservative attempts to stop upward socio economic mobility is a despicable and grotesque attempt to deprive the most of their rights to ensure the luxury of the few. 

Obama put this question to the referendum - joe the plumber became the embodiment of the argument - and the people have spoken, elite tyranny has been exposed, and voted out, the wind is at our backs, and history will prove a great man to be absolutely right. So like a mad man arguing with the rain, as it thunders on his hot little head - sweet dreams right whinger conservative swill - the battle has turned, and your days of oppression are over :-)

P.s - look in to the animal farm comment i made, you will see I&#039;m right, no matter how uncomfortable it makes you feel :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Belated reply I know - but i have been watching 'the' victory.</p>
<p>Marx 'the man' spent 14 hours a day researching and working on his contribution to humanity. As a newspaper editor he produced countless works. You seem to telegraph hard work and production as being solely the realm of 'free market capitalist, right whingers' - no one could question Marx's work ethic.</p>
<p>I wonder if you have ever read Marx - I suspect not, to frightened you might 'like' what he has to say and 'catch something'. Marx never spoke of communism as an alternative to communism - rather it's evolutionary fulfillment within the capitalist epoch. You right whingers don't seem to be able to grasp that concept - communism isn't the enemy of capitalism - but rather it's fulfillment - don't be scared of it - embrace it. regardless, Marx says it is inevitable - the natural conditions will determine this. It is happening now - public funding of private institutions, state protection and propping of the stock market. Keep fighting the cold war all you like - wont change the momentum.</p>
<p>Marx was the ultimate humanist - he wanted to free workers and the underclass from elite bondage and control - to suggest their is some form of disharmony between the concept of liberty and Marx's ideas (again you use the phrase 'Marxists' as 'Christian is used to describe followers of Christ - maka no senso) - but the idea that disharmony exists is really, rather fanciful.</p>
<p>Anyone who espouses the ideas of Marx is ultimately about freedom and liberty. Right whinger conservative attempts to stop upward socio economic mobility is a despicable and grotesque attempt to deprive the most of their rights to ensure the luxury of the few. </p>
<p>Obama put this question to the referendum - joe the plumber became the embodiment of the argument - and the people have spoken, elite tyranny has been exposed, and voted out, the wind is at our backs, and history will prove a great man to be absolutely right. So like a mad man arguing with the rain, as it thunders on his hot little head - sweet dreams right whinger conservative swill - the battle has turned, and your days of oppression are over :-)</p>
<p>P.s - look in to the animal farm comment i made, you will see I'm right, no matter how uncomfortable it makes you feel :)</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 17:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I have a first edition of Animal Farm. Atlas Shrugged as well.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Too bad you never understood them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I have a first edition of Animal Farm. Atlas Shrugged as well.</p></blockquote>
<p>Too bad you never understood them.</p>
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		<title>By: Floyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 17:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the original preface to Animal farm was an ode to marxist ideas&quot; 
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 The original idea of &quot;All in the Family&quot; was to expose Carrol O&#039;Connor&#039;s character as a stupid conservative bigot. 
 The viewers saw him as the show&#039;s hero in spite of Norman and Carrol&#039;s efforts to the contrary.

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 &quot;&quot; We are mindful of the extreme consequences to both career and academic legitimacy, associated with publicly acknowledging Marx&quot;&quot;
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To quote &quot;Larry the Cable Guy&quot;....
&quot;Now I don&#039;t care what you say.. That there&#039;s FUNNY!&quot; [lol]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"the original preface to Animal farm was an ode to marxist ideas"<br />
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<p> The original idea of "All in the Family" was to expose Carrol O'Connor's character as a stupid conservative bigot.<br />
 The viewers saw him as the show's hero in spite of Norman and Carrol's efforts to the contrary.</p>
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 "" We are mindful of the extreme consequences to both career and academic legitimacy, associated with publicly acknowledging Marx""<br />
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<p>To quote "Larry the Cable Guy"....<br />
"Now I don't care what you say.. That there's FUNNY!" [lol]</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 17:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I just hope that Bithead is around to post on the &quot;Election Night results&quot; thread. It&#039;s very unlikely that McCain even makes it to 200 EVs.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Heh. Personally, I&#039;m waiting for the reports of rioting in Grant park.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I just hope that Bithead is around to post on the "Election Night results" thread. It's very unlikely that McCain even makes it to 200 EVs.</p></blockquote>
<p>Heh. Personally, I'm waiting for the reports of rioting in Grant park.</p>
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		<title>By: Floyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 17:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&quot;I guess McCain supporters can always dream,&quot;&quot;
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 At least until BO&#039;S thought police break down their doors! 

AR DENT;
 Marxists are by nature and creed averse to producing anything. They can only exist by stealing from those who do.  
Liberty and Marxism can not coexist.
 BO is wrong, the founding fathers had it right!
 Our Constitution is not blind trash as Obama claims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>""I guess McCain supporters can always dream,""<br />
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 At least until BO'S thought police break down their doors! </p>
<p>AR DENT;<br />
 Marxists are by nature and creed averse to producing anything. They can only exist by stealing from those who do.<br />
Liberty and Marxism can not coexist.<br />
 BO is wrong, the founding fathers had it right!<br />
 Our Constitution is not blind trash as Obama claims.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardent Avow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardent Avow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 15:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have heard all the suggestions that Barack Obama is a marxist, a socialist.....interesting.

Two days before america votes, and too late for anything to matter - I can proudly say that I hope Barack Obama IS inspired and informed by Karl Marx. Marx has been much maligned in North America, humiliated, misrepresented and deliberately misconstrued.

Up until this point, those of us who revere Marx, have had to chose how we fight the noblest of fights - to overtly represent what Marx REALLY said, and the ideas he floated, or to sit silently and float marxist idea&#039;s through allegory (the original preface to Animal farm was an ode to marxist ideas - a letter exists to prove it). We are mindful of the extreme consequences to both career and academic legitimacy, associated with publicly acknowledging Marx.

&quot;WE&quot; marxists (I think Barack is one of us) sit and patiently wait, we wait for election night - come the tolling of the final bell though....

I can assure you &#039;Joe the Plumber&#039; - you will know us ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have heard all the suggestions that Barack Obama is a marxist, a socialist.....interesting.</p>
<p>Two days before america votes, and too late for anything to matter - I can proudly say that I hope Barack Obama IS inspired and informed by Karl Marx. Marx has been much maligned in North America, humiliated, misrepresented and deliberately misconstrued.</p>
<p>Up until this point, those of us who revere Marx, have had to chose how we fight the noblest of fights - to overtly represent what Marx REALLY said, and the ideas he floated, or to sit silently and float marxist idea's through allegory (the original preface to Animal farm was an ode to marxist ideas - a letter exists to prove it). We are mindful of the extreme consequences to both career and academic legitimacy, associated with publicly acknowledging Marx.</p>
<p>"WE" marxists (I think Barack is one of us) sit and patiently wait, we wait for election night - come the tolling of the final bell though....</p>
<p>I can assure you 'Joe the Plumber' - you will know us ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: G.A.Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.A.Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 15:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GC3O_2IQV4

A Little sumtin sumtin by the greatest band in the universe,for those of you who have not made &quot;the mistake&quot; already and vote Tuesday.</description>
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<p>A Little sumtin sumtin by the greatest band in the universe,for those of you who have not made "the mistake" already and vote Tuesday.</p>
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		<title>By: glasnost</title>
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		<dc:creator>glasnost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 15:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just hope that Bithead is around to post on the &quot;Election Night results&quot; thread. It&#039;s very unlikely that McCain even makes it to 200 EVs. It&#039;s going to be a blowout in the +100 to +150 range. Bet on it.

Those &quot;tossup&quot; states that have shown Obama leads all month? They&#039;re still showing Obama leads. They&#039;re not all going to be wrong at the same time without a darn good reason that has so far failed to show itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just hope that Bithead is around to post on the "Election Night results" thread. It's very unlikely that McCain even makes it to 200 EVs. It's going to be a blowout in the +100 to +150 range. Bet on it.</p>
<p>Those "tossup" states that have shown Obama leads all month? They're still showing Obama leads. They're not all going to be wrong at the same time without a darn good reason that has so far failed to show itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared A Chambers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared A Chambers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 14:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh lookie!  Anjin can throw insults!  Biting political analysis!

Obama MAY win Tuesday.  Emphasize MAY.  However, I can&#039;t take anyone seriously who is talking about a &quot;landslide.&quot;  It&#039;s going to be a close election, either way.  Anyone throwing around the idea of a landslide or other absolutes for Tuesday are kidding themselves, or they are simply shilling to depress and supress turnout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh lookie!  Anjin can throw insults!  Biting political analysis!</p>
<p>Obama MAY win Tuesday.  Emphasize MAY.  However, I can't take anyone seriously who is talking about a "landslide."  It's going to be a close election, either way.  Anyone throwing around the idea of a landslide or other absolutes for Tuesday are kidding themselves, or they are simply shilling to depress and supress turnout.</p>
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		<title>By: G.A.Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.A.Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 11:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Obama&#039;s going to win so get over it and regroup for next time.&lt;/blockquote&gt; don&#039;t count your monkeys before they hatch gimprad.

 
&lt;blockquote&gt;Yeah of course some desperate McCain leaning pollster will try to botch the numbers so it appears he&#039;s got a surge going.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 


And GOOD GOD can you liberals ever do anything besides take what your doing , flip it around and say it&#039;s what your opponents doing or also doing , what the poop dude, what the poop?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Obama's going to win so get over it and regroup for next time.</p></blockquote>
<p> don't count your monkeys before they hatch gimprad.</p>
<blockquote><p>Yeah of course some desperate McCain leaning pollster will try to botch the numbers so it appears he's got a surge going.</p></blockquote>
<p>And GOOD GOD can you liberals ever do anything besides take what your doing , flip it around and say it's what your opponents doing or also doing , what the poop dude, what the poop?</p>
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		<title>By: G.A.Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.A.Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 11:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;That helped him develop a reputation as a pragmatist able to work with various sides of an issue.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

 lol, a fancy word for  Donkey poop artist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That helped him develop a reputation as a pragmatist able to work with various sides of an issue.</p></blockquote>
<p> lol, a fancy word for  Donkey poop artist.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Reese</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Reese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 08:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the Illinois state Senate, Obama sponsored successful efforts to:
•	Expand children&#039;s health care.
•	Create a plan to provide equal health care access for all Illinois residents.
•	Create a &quot;Hospital Report Card&quot; system.
•	Enact worker&#039;s rights laws that protected whistleblowers, domestic violence victims, equal pay for women, and overtime pay. 
His most public accomplishment was a bill requiring police to videotape interrogations and confessions in potential death penalty cases to prevent abuses of suspects that could later lead to convictions being overturned. Obama was willing to listen to Republicans and police organizations and negotiate compromises to get the law passed. That helped him develop a reputation as a pragmatist able to work with various sides of an issue. 

Obama bills introduced in the U.S. Senate that became law:
* Ethics reform. Obama was the Senate&#039;s point person on ethics reform, and sponsored or co-sponsored the bills that made up what the Washington Post called &quot;the strongest ethics legislation to emerge from Congress yet.&quot; 
* A bill to help the public keep track of how the federal government is spending our tax dollars. It created a searchable database of recipients of federal grants and contracts.
* The Lugar-Obama initiative to strengthen the Nunn-Lugar framework for securing loose nuclear weapons, and to extend it to securing and destroying stockpiles of conventional arms. (For instance, shoulder-fired missiles that could be used against passenger airlines, fired at our forces, or used to make any number of ongoing conflicts more deadly.) 
* Various bills concerning the response to Hurricane Katrina, including an amendment putting strict limits on the use of no-bid contracts after disasters, requiring planning for the evacuation of people with special needs and senior citizens, creating a National Emergency Family Locator System, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the Illinois state Senate, Obama sponsored successful efforts to:<br />
•	Expand children's health care.<br />
•	Create a plan to provide equal health care access for all Illinois residents.<br />
•	Create a "Hospital Report Card" system.<br />
•	Enact worker's rights laws that protected whistleblowers, domestic violence victims, equal pay for women, and overtime pay.<br />
His most public accomplishment was a bill requiring police to videotape interrogations and confessions in potential death penalty cases to prevent abuses of suspects that could later lead to convictions being overturned. Obama was willing to listen to Republicans and police organizations and negotiate compromises to get the law passed. That helped him develop a reputation as a pragmatist able to work with various sides of an issue. </p>
<p>Obama bills introduced in the U.S. Senate that became law:<br />
* Ethics reform. Obama was the Senate's point person on ethics reform, and sponsored or co-sponsored the bills that made up what the Washington Post called "the strongest ethics legislation to emerge from Congress yet."<br />
* A bill to help the public keep track of how the federal government is spending our tax dollars. It created a searchable database of recipients of federal grants and contracts.<br />
* The Lugar-Obama initiative to strengthen the Nunn-Lugar framework for securing loose nuclear weapons, and to extend it to securing and destroying stockpiles of conventional arms. (For instance, shoulder-fired missiles that could be used against passenger airlines, fired at our forces, or used to make any number of ongoing conflicts more deadly.)<br />
* Various bills concerning the response to Hurricane Katrina, including an amendment putting strict limits on the use of no-bid contracts after disasters, requiring planning for the evacuation of people with special needs and senior citizens, creating a National Emergency Family Locator System, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 05:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comrad Eric.

I just watched Hannity. The truth is alarming. McCain is winning. We have been living in the village of Comrad Potemkin .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comrad Eric.</p>
<p>I just watched Hannity. The truth is alarming. McCain is winning. We have been living in the village of Comrad Potemkin .</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 04:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s over already with early polling. I guess McCain supporters can always dream, but I mean come on, all credible polls are showing Obama at verge of a landslide. Yeah of course some desperate McCain leaning pollster will try to botch the numbers so it appears he&#039;s got a surge going. But look at any independent poll and you&#039;ll see Obama has had consistent numbers over 50% for the past month. Obama&#039;s going to win so get over it and regroup for next time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's over already with early polling. I guess McCain supporters can always dream, but I mean come on, all credible polls are showing Obama at verge of a landslide. Yeah of course some desperate McCain leaning pollster will try to botch the numbers so it appears he's got a surge going. But look at any independent poll and you'll see Obama has had consistent numbers over 50% for the past month. Obama's going to win so get over it and regroup for next time.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 04:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh look, Cook has GA as a tossup too. That can&#039;t be good for the GOP.

Its got to hurt to watch Bush give back all the gains a real President like Ronald Reagan made for the GOP. How is McCain doing in AZ? Think he can hold on to his own state?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh look, Cook has GA as a tossup too. That can't be good for the GOP.</p>
<p>Its got to hurt to watch Bush give back all the gains a real President like Ronald Reagan made for the GOP. How is McCain doing in AZ? Think he can hold on to his own state?</p>
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