Comments on: Mel Gibson and the Speed of Scandal

By: James Joyner

James Joyner — Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:43:29 +0000

Anderson: Technically true, although Allen was her adopted mother's lover and presumably the closest thing she had to a father figure from when she was 9 or 10 years old. It's not technically incest but it's hardly less disturbing by virtue of his never having signed a piece of paper.

By: Anderson

Anderson — Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:13:26 +0000

I was referring to Althouse’s quote: “What artist has ever crashed like this? Not Michael Jackson. Not Woody Allen. Not O.J. Simpson.” Ah so ("double homicide" was the clue there eh?). But pinning "incest" on Allen is a bit much. Wasn't Soon-Yi Previn 22 or so when their relationship started? And Allen never adopted her, right?

By: Conservative Culture » Mel Gibson’s Passion

Conservative Culture » Mel Gibson’s Passion — Wed, 02 Aug 2006 02:50:27 +0000

[...] One wonders about the speed in which the news got out and if the murky details were true. But his desire to go public and apologize seems to dictate that the facts were indeed true. Time will tell both the impact on his career and if his apology carries any weight. Currently Mel’s passion would be to get through this as best as possible. Feedbacks on this entry via RSS 2.0 Please leave a Comment or discuss via Trackback! [...]

By: jim

jim — Tue, 01 Aug 2006 22:34:58 +0000

I use a dual scale for performers and their statements. How much to I disagree [detest] with the statements [actions] and how much do I enjoy their work. Thus Gibson Jackson are out—no more Lethal Weapon reruns for me.
Someone who is in—Charlie Sheen. He does over the top comedy well. His 911 views are also over the top.

By: James Joyner

James Joyner — Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:51:58 +0000

Anderson: Not that I'm aware of on Cruise. He's got some views I consider off-the-way but, so far as I know, hasn't done anything more morally reprehensible than divorce Nicole Kidman for no apparent reason and deprive their adopted children of a full-time father. I was referring to Althouse's quote: "What artist has ever crashed like this? Not Michael Jackson. Not Woody Allen. Not O.J. Simpson."

By: Anderson

Anderson — Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:48:40 +0000

Have we reached the point where adherence to a warped religious mindset and some spewed words of idiocy are more vile than double homicide, pedophilia, and incest? No, but we weren't discussing any celebrity killers, pedophiles, or incest-committers (gotta be a better word; "motherf--ker" is good but too narrow)? Or am I behind the curve on what Tom Cruise has been up to? Anti-semitism is pretty rotten stuff, at least since the Nazis gave it a bad name. Gibson deserves the heat he's getting.

By: 4thelittleguy.com

4thelittleguy.com — Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:07:13 +0000

Mel Gibson Overload...

Just in case there is someone out there who hasn’t heard the news about Mel Gibson, here is a summary:
Gibson’s Anti-Semitic Tirade — Alleged Cover Up
TMZ has learned that Mel Gibson went on a rampage when he was arrested Friday on su...

By: James Joyner

James Joyner — Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:48:44 +0000

madmatt: Good deal. I've submitted the bug to my tech guys. Hopefully, they'll get it fixed soon.

By: legion

legion — Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:46:57 +0000

BINGO! And as long as it seems to be working, I think Ann Althouse goes even farther over the top than the ADL folks... Mel Gibson's sad ranting are worse than Michael Jackson's and OJ's barely-dodged trials for pedophilia and murder?!? Dude. While I wouldn't hire Mel as a babysitter, I at least wouldn't worry about the kids' physical safety with the guy... Unless he was driving them someplace :-)

By: legion

legion — Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:43:11 +0000

OK, let's try it without the quotes...
Funky. It had looked fine in preview; just dropped when it showed up on the site. Looks like Bithead may have been hit by the same bug.

And while I agree that the KKK comparison is a touch hyperbolic I can, to paraphrase Chris Rock, see how they got there.

There should be some sort of corollary to the law of unintended consequences... perhaps the Law of Inappropriate Fame - People who are famous for one thing will use that fame as credibility in other, unrelated fields; they are invariably unqualified in these other fields.
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This sounds plausible... I think I used a quote in the first attempt at the top - good catch, madmatt.

By: madmatt

madmatt — Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:25:27 +0000

It rejected my comments when I used quote marks but let it thru once I removed them.

By: James Joyner

James Joyner — Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:01:02 +0000

can you repost just the deleted text and/or email it to me at drjjoynerATgmailDOT com? Trying to see if we can figure out what the trigger is.

By: legion

legion — Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:00:24 +0000

OK, that's just weird. Perhaps there's some hidden character setting this off...

Funky. It had looked fine in preview; just dropped when it showed up on the site. Looks like Bithead may have been hit by the same bug.

And while I agree that the KKK comparison is a touch hyperbolic I can, to paraphrase Chris Rock,

By: James Joyner

James Joyner — Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:59:46 +0000

Looks like it happened again. I've emailed Mark to see if he can figure out what the new bug is.

By: legion

legion — Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:59:19 +0000

Dammit! Same problem! But this time, I copied the text first...
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Funky. It had looked fine in preview; just dropped when it showed up on the site. Looks like Bithead may have been hit by the same bug.

And while I agree that the KKK comparison is a touch hyperbolic I can, to paraphrase Chris Rock,