Comments on: Michigan Butterfly Ballot

By: Rick DeMent

Rick DeMent — Fri, 08 Oct 2004 01:09:20 +0000

Gratiot County? No such thing. Genesee County?

By: Diggers Realm

Diggers Realm — Thu, 07 Oct 2004 19:37:56 +0000

Ridiculous Absentee Ballot
Look at this stupid ballot. It's an absentee ballot from Michigan. Look where the Presidential vote is. The arrows are all jacked up. A vote for Kerry is a vote for Bush? Blue Lemur has the story. The Miller Consultations...

By: A.W.

A.W. — Thu, 07 Oct 2004 13:30:41 +0000

No, actually Drum is actually wrong on this point. The fact is it did not shift the arrows downward. There is an arrow for every line, including "write in" except the Bush Cheney line. If anyone is harmed by this, it is Bush and Cheney, not KEdwards.

By: Tammy in Texas

Tammy in Texas — Thu, 07 Oct 2004 04:28:12 +0000

I guess I think a little too simply at times. When I looked at the ballot, I assumed that the markings that are there would simply count for the person beside them - meaning that there was no way a person could vote for Bush/Cheney and have it count. I didn't think they would all shift upwards.

By: Charles Fenwick

Charles Fenwick — Wed, 06 Oct 2004 20:19:00 +0000

A commentor on Daily Kos and another on Washington Monthly said that the ballot came from the city of Alma (in Gratiot County).

Looking at the city ordinances, it apears that elections for all city positions (including Clerk, who's responsible for elections) are non-partisan.

By: Lysander

Lysander — Wed, 06 Oct 2004 19:57:46 +0000

1) I wonder which party the locality Elections commissioner (or whatever their title is) claims affiliation to. In Florida, the infamous ballot was the production of none other than a Democrat Party Commissioner.

2) Tied in with the above, I'm completely unsurprised that the people commenting on the link (at the LiveJournal level) are suffering an accute BDS where the fact that the printing company buggered this one up is now "[President] Bush's fault"

Lysander

By: Charles Fenwick

Charles Fenwick — Wed, 06 Oct 2004 19:37:20 +0000

From what I read on the Michigan
Secretary of State's website, it sounds like
cities and townships are responsible for
absentee ballots (which, if correct, would make
it even lower level than here in Florida, where
counties are responsible for them).

Googling the name of the candidate for Sheriff
reveals that the ballot came from Gratiot County.

Looking at the election results, about 15,000 people voted in that county (out of 4,232,711 in the entire state of Michigan).

It appears that people on other sites are commenting on the basis that this flaw is state-wide, but I haven't seen anything to show that's the case.

By: Say Anything

Say Anything — Wed, 06 Oct 2004 18:57:47 +0000

Absolutely Ridiculous
Take a look at this ballot (via OTB): Its an absentee ballot from Michigan, but the boxes aren't aligned correctly for the Presidential candidates. To me, it looks like if somebody hit the box next to the Kerry/Edwards selection it...