As it is, I'm merely amused as one would be watching a slapstick reel.

Suffice it to say, I don't directly control what ads run.

Advertising government giveaways on your site? I always suspected you were not about making anything but noise. Thanks for the confirmation.

Steve Benen of all people,wrote a post yesterday which had me reaming him a new one at my place.

One of the guys that writes at my place, DavidL

You got your ad rates posted someplace, JJ?

Well, that's what's so very amazing about it. You do it so seldom as to belie having the ability.

Thats your comeback? LOL, thanks, its been a rough week and I needed a laugh.

Ummm, yea. Its called "thinking for yourself".

Well, that's what's so very amazing about it. You do it so seldom as to belie having the ability.

It is that. But it's been what the Democrats have been running on for the last few generations.

As opposed to the crap the GOP runs on. Crap is a major driver in politics...

Amazing, though, that you seem to be running against it

Ummm, yea. Its called "thinking for yourself".

Nice to be able to say that. If more of us did, the country would be better off.

hln

Here we sit judging the quality of a person's mothering based on the choices her children make. The reality is that as kids get older they sometimes make choices that come with long term consequences, how they deal with those choices is far more important.

I know three very fine upstanding adult women who all got pregnant in their teens. They all three had very good mothers-one of these ladies was like a grandmother to me, and I would trust her to watch my children without thinking about it.

Each of those women married the fathers of their children and all have been married 15 or more years.

Teenagers sometimes get pregnant. Teenagers of some very good parents and very good people sometimes get pregnant. Sometimes birth control fails (I happen to be the mom of two very wonderful children that were conceived while I was taking birth control pills).

As parents we all have our desires for our children and the order we would like them to do things in-but kids have minds of their own and sometimes don't follow that path. I don't think it is some failure on the part of the parents-at least not always.

I also think dutchmarbel made a very good point. While we sit in judgement on the women and judge their worthiness as parents, why aren't we discussing the worthiness of their fathers or the fathers of other politicians children?

Obama has been all but an absent father while running for office the last two years. While he served in the senate his two girls lived in Chicago. If his daughters eventually have public problems is it Michelle's fault or Barak's? Is there a way to tell? Should we be assigning fault?

What a load of crap

It is that. But it's been what the Democrats have been running on for the last few generations.

Amazing, though, that you seem to be running against it.

it usually is driven by some sort of class envy that demands someone can't have something unless everyone can have it.

What a load of crap. Not surprising though, it is a typical fallback for the right when they cannot address this issue intelligently. Our friend bithead uses it frequently.

I don't have any big class issues, I was pretty much born into the winners circle and grew up in one of the wealthiest communities in the country. I would like to see people who did not get all the breaks I did have a shot too. "Class envy" does not figure into it.

I know it must get tiresome to read but since some still haven't grasped the concept, the perfect is the enemy of the good. I prefer freedom and striving tomake our society more free with all the good and bad that entails than all efforts to make society more equitable, whatever the hell that means, especially since it usually is driven by some sort of class envy that demands someone can't have something unless everyone can have it.

So, 'Equal Opportunity' is no longer the end all and be-all Anjin?

What are you carrying on about? Here on planet earth, equal opportunity is a nice concept, but that is all it is.

Should we work to make our society more equitable? Of course. Will we ever get there? Probably not. Its something worth striving for, but hardly the center of the Democratic political universe.

To say it is some sort of "be all end all" is just a regurgitation of right wing radio talking points. Do try harder.

They wouldn't have the same poll with for instance Bill Clinton, Joe Biden, Barak Obama and John McCain though all of them were fathers.

Very true, Dutch. Telling, that.