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		<title>By: niall</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/more_on_davis/comment-page-1/#comment-335915</link>
		<dc:creator>niall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Foghorn Leghorn called everyone boy or son and there wasn&#039;t the slightest racial implication to it, which was my point, alas one apparently needing a bit of clarification. Whether boy ever had this connotation, it doesn&#039;t have it now except to those who feel a special need to ascribe everything to a greater evil, racism even when other simpler explanations (being condescending to a supposedly great orator who of late is demonstrating a gift for getting both feet in his mouth at one go) are more than sufficient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Foghorn Leghorn called everyone boy or son and there wasn't the slightest racial implication to it, which was my point, alas one apparently needing a bit of clarification. Whether boy ever had this connotation, it doesn't have it now except to those who feel a special need to ascribe everything to a greater evil, racism even when other simpler explanations (being condescending to a supposedly great orator who of late is demonstrating a gift for getting both feet in his mouth at one go) are more than sufficient.</p>
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		<title>By: Inkognegro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inkognegro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somebody needs to watch some Foghorn Leghorn cartoons and loosen the hell up. I say boy I am tired of this manufactured outrage.

I don&#039;t remember Foghorn calling a black man boy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somebody needs to watch some Foghorn Leghorn cartoons and loosen the hell up. I say boy I am tired of this manufactured outrage.</p>
<p>I don't remember Foghorn calling a black man boy.</p>
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		<title>By: Grewgills</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grewgills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Does it strike you as even remotely plauseable that if the guy were the screaming racist you&#039;d apparently like to cast him, that we&#039;d not have heard the screaming and wailing from the Ambulance chasers before now?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I don&#039;t know whether or not he is a racist and, I suspect, neither do you.  I have been clear that his apology is sufficient barring a pattern of conduct that has not materialized at this point.

I doubt that he regularly screams his racism, if it is present, or we would have heard it before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Does it strike you as even remotely plauseable that if the guy were the screaming racist you'd apparently like to cast him, that we'd not have heard the screaming and wailing from the Ambulance chasers before now?</p></blockquote>
<p>I don't know whether or not he is a racist and, I suspect, neither do you.  I have been clear that his apology is sufficient barring a pattern of conduct that has not materialized at this point.</p>
<p>I doubt that he regularly screams his racism, if it is present, or we would have heard it before.</p>
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		<title>By: niall</title>
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		<dc:creator>niall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somebody needs to watch some Foghorn Leghorn cartoons and loosen the hell up. I say boy I am tired of this manufactured outrage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somebody needs to watch some Foghorn Leghorn cartoons and loosen the hell up. I say boy I am tired of this manufactured outrage.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;but he’s no racist, whatever the racial ambulance chasers have to say about it.&lt;/em&gt;

How well do you know him?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Does it strike you as even remotely plauseable that if the guy were the screaming racist you&#039;d apparently like to cast him, that we&#039;d not have heard the screaming and wailing from the Ambulance chasers before now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><em>but he&rsquo;s no racist, whatever the racial ambulance chasers have to say about it.</em></p>
<p>How well do you know him?</p></blockquote>
<p>Does it strike you as even remotely plauseable that if the guy were the screaming racist you'd apparently like to cast him, that we'd not have heard the screaming and wailing from the Ambulance chasers before now?</p>
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		<title>By: Devon Kearney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devon Kearney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The question of whether or not Rep. Davis is himself a racist doesn&#039;t much interest me.  The question is how this remark will function in the larger political dialog - will we look back and see that it is one of many such gaffes that, taken together, prime racial fears or hostility?  As far as I can tell, there are plenty of examples, since Nixon, of politicians who might not be deeply racist who nonetheless exploit racially divisive language for the good of their campaign or their party.  It&#039;s hard to imagine the Southern Strategy without it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question of whether or not Rep. Davis is himself a racist doesn't much interest me.  The question is how this remark will function in the larger political dialog - will we look back and see that it is one of many such gaffes that, taken together, prime racial fears or hostility?  As far as I can tell, there are plenty of examples, since Nixon, of politicians who might not be deeply racist who nonetheless exploit racially divisive language for the good of their campaign or their party.  It's hard to imagine the Southern Strategy without it.</p>
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		<title>By: Grewgills</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grewgills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;but he’s no racist, whatever the racial ambulance chasers have to say about it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
How well do you know him?
&lt;blockquote&gt;gives far too much control to the race huxters over our very means of expression, thus worsening the situation surrounding REAL racism.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
and we all know what you consider the REAL race problem in America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>but he&rsquo;s no racist, whatever the racial ambulance chasers have to say about it.</p></blockquote>
<p>How well do you know him?</p>
<blockquote><p>gives far too much control to the race huxters over our very means of expression, thus worsening the situation surrounding REAL racism.</p></blockquote>
<p>and we all know what you consider the REAL race problem in America.</p>
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		<title>By: Moonage Political Webdream &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Geoff Davis and that boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moonage Political Webdream &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Geoff Davis and that boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A lot is being made of Representative Geoff Davis calling Barack Obama &#8220;that boy&#8221;.  Liberal and Democrat sites are rushing to brand him a racist, other sites are rushing to his defense.  I particularly read Outside The Beltway.  They have several posts on the comment.  Alex Knapp&#8217;s comment was just the most recent: Look, I don’t think that anybody would seriously question that the use of the word “boy” by a .... [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A lot is being made of Representative Geoff Davis calling Barack Obama &#8220;that boy&#8221;.  Liberal and Democrat sites are rushing to brand him a racist, other sites are rushing to his defense.  I particularly read Outside The Beltway.  They have several posts on the comment.  Alex Knapp&#8217;s comment was just the most recent: Look, I don&rsquo;t think that anybody would seriously question that the use of the word “boy” by a .... [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Inkognegro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inkognegro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The bigger question is how cleverly we are manipulated into not speaking our minds freely and truthfully because of this irrational politically contrived fear (pride)through the foolishness of political correctness (censorship by the left)&quot;

Rep. Davis could have easily said whatever he said without Calling a Black man 3 years his junior boy.  This isn&#039;t in the LEAST about political correctness. This is about the fact that white men can&#039;t go around saying whateverthehell they want about folk, which clearly annoys some of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"The bigger question is how cleverly we are manipulated into not speaking our minds freely and truthfully because of this irrational politically contrived fear (pride)through the foolishness of political correctness (censorship by the left)"</p>
<p>Rep. Davis could have easily said whatever he said without Calling a Black man 3 years his junior boy.  This isn't in the LEAST about political correctness. This is about the fact that white men can't go around saying whateverthehell they want about folk, which clearly annoys some of you.</p>
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		<title>By: markm</title>
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		<dc:creator>markm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I grew up in Wisconsin and don&#039;t remember even seeing a live (meaning other than TV) black person until I was 8 or so.&quot;

Very similar situation on this end other than i&#039;m in Michigan. I guess i&#039;ve just never come across the term/meaning in person and if I saw it on TV or in a movie it didn&#039;t click.

&quot;Google &#039;boy racist slur&#039; and get over being sheltered.&quot;

I didn&#039;t know I was hung up on being sheltered. Pound sand Sam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"I grew up in Wisconsin and don't remember even seeing a live (meaning other than TV) black person until I was 8 or so."</p>
<p>Very similar situation on this end other than i'm in Michigan. I guess i've just never come across the term/meaning in person and if I saw it on TV or in a movie it didn't click.</p>
<p>"Google 'boy racist slur' and get over being sheltered."</p>
<p>I didn't know I was hung up on being sheltered. Pound sand Sam.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The bigger question is how cleverly we are manipulated into not speaking our minds freely and truthfully because of this irrational politically contrived fear (pride)through the foolishness of political correctness (censorship by the left)&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Exactly so. As I said elsewhere, yesterday, to too strongly credit Davis’ comments as racism, gives far too much control to the race huxters over our very means of expression, thus worsening the situation surrounding REAL racism. 

And control is what this little storm is all about. 

&lt;strong&gt;Alex&lt;/strong&gt;, Mark this date and time down; We agree. No question that the guy is a bit of a jerk, but he’s no racist, whatever the racial ambulance chasers have to say about it. And in reality that’s what’s going on here… It’s not racism, but what the responses are, though, is opportunism. More than granted the guy shouldn’t have said it. But WHY? nt because he’s a racist… he isn’t. Not even close. The problem is the opportunistic reaction to it. And I guess frankly, I’m wondering, of the two, which is the larger problem for society… that such statements are still made, however innocently, or that there’s a bunch of racial ambulance chasers out there ready to leap into the frey screaming ’racist’ wherever there’s the slightest chance of gaining any political ground for themselves in the screaming sessions afterward. We have a group of people out there… seeking legitimacy and thereby, power, by way of searching out and reacting to keywords, regardless of the context in which they’re spoken.That way, for example, lies Jeremiah Wright, Julian Bond, and Jessee Jackson, Al Sharpton, and so on.


I&#039;m not saying that I reject the idea that there&#039;s genuine racism ut there... it does occasionally pop up. But how many times are we going to kneel on the altar of &quot;I&#039;m Offended&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The bigger question is how cleverly we are manipulated into not speaking our minds freely and truthfully because of this irrational politically contrived fear (pride)through the foolishness of political correctness (censorship by the left)</p></blockquote>
<p>Exactly so. As I said elsewhere, yesterday, to too strongly credit Davis&rsquo; comments as racism, gives far too much control to the race huxters over our very means of expression, thus worsening the situation surrounding REAL racism. </p>
<p>And control is what this little storm is all about. </p>
<p><strong>Alex</strong>, Mark this date and time down; We agree. No question that the guy is a bit of a jerk, but he&rsquo;s no racist, whatever the racial ambulance chasers have to say about it. And in reality that&rsquo;s what&rsquo;s going on here… It&rsquo;s not racism, but what the responses are, though, is opportunism. More than granted the guy shouldn&rsquo;t have said it. But WHY? nt because he&rsquo;s a racist… he isn&rsquo;t. Not even close. The problem is the opportunistic reaction to it. And I guess frankly, I&rsquo;m wondering, of the two, which is the larger problem for society… that such statements are still made, however innocently, or that there&rsquo;s a bunch of racial ambulance chasers out there ready to leap into the frey screaming &rsquo;racist&rsquo; wherever there&rsquo;s the slightest chance of gaining any political ground for themselves in the screaming sessions afterward. We have a group of people out there… seeking legitimacy and thereby, power, by way of searching out and reacting to keywords, regardless of the context in which they&rsquo;re spoken.That way, for example, lies Jeremiah Wright, Julian Bond, and Jessee Jackson, Al Sharpton, and so on.</p>
<p>I'm not saying that I reject the idea that there's genuine racism ut there... it does occasionally pop up. But how many times are we going to kneel on the altar of "I'm Offended"?</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I can honestly say I have never heard that calling anybody &quot;boy&quot;, regardless of the color of their skin, is racist or could be considered racist. Is it a &quot;southern thing&quot; or am I sheltered??.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Google &#039;boy racist slur&#039; and get over being sheltered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I can honestly say I have never heard that calling anybody "boy", regardless of the color of their skin, is racist or could be considered racist. Is it a "southern thing" or am I sheltered??.</p></blockquote>
<p>Google 'boy racist slur' and get over being sheltered.</p>
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		<title>By: rodney dill</title>
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		<dc:creator>rodney dill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You must be sheltered markm. I grew up in Wisconsin and don&#039;t remember even seeing a live (meaning other than TV) black person until I was 8 or so. Yet this and many other racial slurs became known to me over the years. You could hardly watch TV or movies over the course of a year or two without picking up this information (though with the current PC show that may be less the case)

This may not &#039;definitively&#039; prove that Davis is racial, but it is a strong indicator in that direction. If Davis truly did not know that this statement was racial charged, though his apology seems to indicate that he knew, then he is either very ignorant or somewhat stupid. 

I was a little surprised to see all the semantic arguements that &#039;boy&#039; can have none racial meanings, as endearment for example. In Davis&#039; case this was specifically in a disparaging or derogatory remark, calling attention to a concern that Obama may not be fit, and this was directed toward a grown black man. This meets all needed criteria to be considered to be a racist comment.

Now Davis could&#039;ve said &#039;man&#039; or &#039;person&#039; in this context and some of the left would still undoubtedly claim racism, but at least in that case Davis wouldn&#039;t be providing his own sword to fall on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must be sheltered markm. I grew up in Wisconsin and don't remember even seeing a live (meaning other than TV) black person until I was 8 or so. Yet this and many other racial slurs became known to me over the years. You could hardly watch TV or movies over the course of a year or two without picking up this information (though with the current PC show that may be less the case)</p>
<p>This may not 'definitively' prove that Davis is racial, but it is a strong indicator in that direction. If Davis truly did not know that this statement was racial charged, though his apology seems to indicate that he knew, then he is either very ignorant or somewhat stupid. </p>
<p>I was a little surprised to see all the semantic arguements that 'boy' can have none racial meanings, as endearment for example. In Davis' case this was specifically in a disparaging or derogatory remark, calling attention to a concern that Obama may not be fit, and this was directed toward a grown black man. This meets all needed criteria to be considered to be a racist comment.</p>
<p>Now Davis could've said 'man' or 'person' in this context and some of the left would still undoubtedly claim racism, but at least in that case Davis wouldn't be providing his own sword to fall on.</p>
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		<title>By: markm</title>
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		<dc:creator>markm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Look, I don’t think that anybody would seriously question that the use of the word “boy” by a white man to describe a black man is something that can easily be interpreted as racist–and in a great majority of cases no doubt is racist.&quot;

I can honestly say I have never heard that calling anybody &quot;boy&quot;, regardless of the color of their skin, is racist or could be considered racist. Is it a &quot;southern thing&quot; or am I sheltered??.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Look, I don&rsquo;t think that anybody would seriously question that the use of the word “boy” by a white man to describe a black man is something that can easily be interpreted as racist–and in a great majority of cases no doubt is racist."</p>
<p>I can honestly say I have never heard that calling anybody "boy", regardless of the color of their skin, is racist or could be considered racist. Is it a "southern thing" or am I sheltered??.</p>
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		<title>By: DL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 08:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It is awfully funny how much people hate being called racists&quot;

The bigger question is how cleverly we are manipulated into not speaking our minds freely and truthfully because of this irrational politically contrived fear (pride)through the foolishness of political correctness (censorship by the left)

Why can&#039;t a white man speak of what is hurting the black community (liberal plantation)without the racism guilt? 
Because he has long ago lost his courage and cowardly submitted it to the power of the left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"It is awfully funny how much people hate being called racists"</p>
<p>The bigger question is how cleverly we are manipulated into not speaking our minds freely and truthfully because of this irrational politically contrived fear (pride)through the foolishness of political correctness (censorship by the left)</p>
<p>Why can't a white man speak of what is hurting the black community (liberal plantation)without the racism guilt?<br />
Because he has long ago lost his courage and cowardly submitted it to the power of the left.</p>
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