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		<title>By: The Lonewacko Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/more_on_immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-52995</link>
		<dc:creator>The Lonewacko Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2005 20:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d suggest removing the last link.

&lt;em&gt;All the 9/11 terrorist were here legally.&lt;/em&gt;

Obviously, that doesn&#039;t mean that all future terrorists will try to enter legally.

As detailed in the 9/11 Com. staff report, terrorists are quite informed on our immigration system and have used it to their advantage.

The 9/11 hijackers had strange visa apps which were pushed through due to our policies with Saudi Arabia. I believe the person who headed that dep&#039;t has been promoted.

The hijackers also fraudulently obtained VA driver&#039;s licenses. There&#039;s a long article detailing exactly how they did that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'd suggest removing the last link.</p>
<p><em>All the 9/11 terrorist were here legally.</em></p>
<p>Obviously, that doesn't mean that all future terrorists will try to enter legally.</p>
<p>As detailed in the 9/11 Com. staff report, terrorists are quite informed on our immigration system and have used it to their advantage.</p>
<p>The 9/11 hijackers had strange visa apps which were pushed through due to our policies with Saudi Arabia. I believe the person who headed that dep't has been promoted.</p>
<p>The hijackers also fraudulently obtained VA driver's licenses. There's a long article detailing exactly how they did that.</p>
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		<title>By: VONBLUVENS</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/more_on_immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-52991</link>
		<dc:creator>VONBLUVENS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2005 18:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get the real scoop on illegal immigration

http://www.nsm88radio.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get the real scoop on illegal immigration</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nsm88radio.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.nsm88radio.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: spencer</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/more_on_immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-52978</link>
		<dc:creator>spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But the original post was on security and how would changing the laws help this.  All the 9/11 terrorist were here legally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the original post was on security and how would changing the laws help this.  All the 9/11 terrorist were here legally.</p>
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		<title>By: DC Loser</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/more_on_immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-52940</link>
		<dc:creator>DC Loser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2005 09:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey McGehee, what&#039;s getting you all worked up lately?  

I guess it must be news to the natives in the 1600s that they could actually have deported all those illegal aliens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey McGehee, what's getting you all worked up lately?  </p>
<p>I guess it must be news to the natives in the 1600s that they could actually have deported all those illegal aliens.</p>
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		<title>By: The Lonewacko Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/more_on_immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-52935</link>
		<dc:creator>The Lonewacko Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2005 06:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We already admit 800,000+ legal immigrants per year. Seeing as there are several billion people who&#039;d like to come here, raising that level to 2 million would have absolutely no effect on the supply of potential illegal immigrants. You&#039;d have to raise it to many many millions to have any impact whatsoever.

Then, you&#039;d face the prospect of &quot;informal&quot; family reunification from all those millions upon millions of legal immigrants who want to bring in their relatives.

The problem with most guest worker programs is that couples come and they have children. Those children are then U.S. citizens, and the Sally Struthers side of things would swing into action to try to keep them here instead of going home after three years or whatever.

Then, there&#039;s that little matter of Mexico and their &quot;Lost Territories&quot;, what we call the U.S. southwest. 58% of Mexicans think the U.S. southwest rightfully belongs to Mexico.

Now, our corrupt, traitorous politicians are allowing those Lost Territories to be resettled.

Mexico also has more consulates in the U.S. than any other country and they have about as much control over our immigration policies as the American public.

Mexican consuls visit small towns in the U.S. passing out Matricula Consular cards to their citizens who are in our country illegally.

The FBI said those cards are a security risk.

The Bush administration fought to allow banks to accept those cards.

Under the Bush administration, the FDIC is working with the Mexican consulate in Chicago to give home loans to illegal aliens.

Like they say in the movies, the calls are coming from inside your house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We already admit 800,000+ legal immigrants per year. Seeing as there are several billion people who'd like to come here, raising that level to 2 million would have absolutely no effect on the supply of potential illegal immigrants. You'd have to raise it to many many millions to have any impact whatsoever.</p>
<p>Then, you'd face the prospect of "informal" family reunification from all those millions upon millions of legal immigrants who want to bring in their relatives.</p>
<p>The problem with most guest worker programs is that couples come and they have children. Those children are then U.S. citizens, and the Sally Struthers side of things would swing into action to try to keep them here instead of going home after three years or whatever.</p>
<p>Then, there's that little matter of Mexico and their "Lost Territories", what we call the U.S. southwest. 58% of Mexicans think the U.S. southwest rightfully belongs to Mexico.</p>
<p>Now, our corrupt, traitorous politicians are allowing those Lost Territories to be resettled.</p>
<p>Mexico also has more consulates in the U.S. than any other country and they have about as much control over our immigration policies as the American public.</p>
<p>Mexican consuls visit small towns in the U.S. passing out Matricula Consular cards to their citizens who are in our country illegally.</p>
<p>The FBI said those cards are a security risk.</p>
<p>The Bush administration fought to allow banks to accept those cards.</p>
<p>Under the Bush administration, the FDIC is working with the Mexican consulate in Chicago to give home loans to illegal aliens.</p>
<p>Like they say in the movies, the calls are coming from inside your house.</p>
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		<title>By: McGehee</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/more_on_immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-52928</link>
		<dc:creator>McGehee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2005 02:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing&#039;s changed, except &lt;b&gt;all those other imigrants were LEGAL!&lt;/b&gt;

Gawd, DCL, did you get up on the stupid side of bed this morning, or what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing's changed, except <b>all those other imigrants were LEGAL!</b></p>
<p>Gawd, DCL, did you get up on the stupid side of bed this morning, or what?</p>
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		<title>By: DC Loser</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/more_on_immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-52917</link>
		<dc:creator>DC Loser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2005 01:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Throughout the history of this republic there has always been anti-immigrant sentiments.  First there were fears about the Irish, then the Chinese and then Jews, Italians, etc. Nothing&#039;s changed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Throughout the history of this republic there has always been anti-immigrant sentiments.  First there were fears about the Irish, then the Chinese and then Jews, Italians, etc. Nothing's changed.</p>
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		<title>By: Ol' BC</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/more_on_immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-52900</link>
		<dc:creator>Ol' BC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2005 22:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is politics.  Since so many illegals are Latinos and that vote is important to both parties, don&#039;t expect any solution to the problem any time soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is politics.  Since so many illegals are Latinos and that vote is important to both parties, don't expect any solution to the problem any time soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Medcalf</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/more_on_immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-52898</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Medcalf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2005 21:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>denise, I&#039;ll assume you&#039;re asking an honest question (it&#039;s hard to tell tone from text), rather than joking around.  If you&#039;re just joking around, cool.

Anyway, you could rewrite this as: &quot;Make deportation of [people of a particular immigration status] illegal unless they make a valid claim for asylum.&quot;

No double negative there.  Double negatives refer to a negated negation, such as &quot;not not happy&quot;, though actual usage is generally more subtle than that.  This is semantically different from &quot;not unhappy&quot;.  The first means &quot;happy&quot;, and the second means &quot;not unhappy&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>denise, I'll assume you're asking an honest question (it's hard to tell tone from text), rather than joking around.  If you're just joking around, cool.</p>
<p>Anyway, you could rewrite this as: "Make deportation of [people of a particular immigration status] illegal unless they make a valid claim for asylum."</p>
<p>No double negative there.  Double negatives refer to a negated negation, such as "not not happy", though actual usage is generally more subtle than that.  This is semantically different from "not unhappy".  The first means "happy", and the second means "not unhappy".</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Newquist</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/more_on_immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-52892</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell Newquist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2005 20:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Well if we had legal immigration that let in numbers similar to what we see with illegal immigration we&#039;d get the same outcome economically speaking.&quot;

Actually, that&#039;s &lt;em&gt;almost&lt;/em&gt; but not quite true.  If every illegal immigrant suddenly became legal, it would mean that most of them would now have legal recourse to correct the less-than-minimum wages that they make.  They&#039;d also have to pay their share of taxes, which are often unpaid.  So the net economic effect would be substantially different than zero, but I&#039;m not prepared with numbers to argue how dramatic it would be.  Somehow, I don&#039;t think it would be particularly horrible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Well if we had legal immigration that let in numbers similar to what we see with illegal immigration we'd get the same outcome economically speaking."</p>
<p>Actually, that's <em>almost</em> but not quite true.  If every illegal immigrant suddenly became legal, it would mean that most of them would now have legal recourse to correct the less-than-minimum wages that they make.  They'd also have to pay their share of taxes, which are often unpaid.  So the net economic effect would be substantially different than zero, but I'm not prepared with numbers to argue how dramatic it would be.  Somehow, I don't think it would be particularly horrible.</p>
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		<title>By: denise</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/more_on_immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-52889</link>
		<dc:creator>denise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2005 20:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Make deportation of non-citizens who do not have legal documents illegal unless they make a valid claim for asylum.&quot;

Huh?  Is there a double negative in there or something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Make deportation of non-citizens who do not have legal documents illegal unless they make a valid claim for asylum."</p>
<p>Huh?  Is there a double negative in there or something?</p>
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		<title>By: Ashish Hanwadikar</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/more_on_immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-52883</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashish Hanwadikar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2005 20:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree wholeheartedly!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree wholeheartedly!</p>
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