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	<title>Comments on: Mortgage Companies to Freeze &#8216;Teaser&#8217; Rates</title>
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		<title>By: underground</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/mortgage_companies_to_freeze_teaser_rates/comment-page-1/#comment-248183</link>
		<dc:creator>underground</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 01:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I&#039;m 25 and just bought at the top of the bubble last year.  No problems here.  Its a modest house, its a fixed rate and there&#039;s no penalty for early principle payments.  Assuming an 8-10% annual loss, maintenance, and extra payments, its like the exact same cost renting would have been..(its not like rental prices are going down)
And I think I&#039;m overestimating the devaluation of the last year, just to be safe (location is pretty good, lot of dense commercial zones popping up).

This bailout may be &quot;minor&quot; in terms of economic impact, but its a MAJOR slap in my face.  If we had gone for an ARM with an intro rate when interest rates were at &lt;strong&gt;record lows&lt;/strong&gt; we could probably be saving thousands in interest payments through Bush&#039;s plan, depending on how they view the incomes of a teacher and a financial aid worker.

Silly me, I thought the low fixed rate was the safe and prudent way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I'm 25 and just bought at the top of the bubble last year.  No problems here.  Its a modest house, its a fixed rate and there's no penalty for early principle payments.  Assuming an 8-10% annual loss, maintenance, and extra payments, its like the exact same cost renting would have been..(its not like rental prices are going down)<br />
And I think I'm overestimating the devaluation of the last year, just to be safe (location is pretty good, lot of dense commercial zones popping up).</p>
<p>This bailout may be "minor" in terms of economic impact, but its a MAJOR slap in my face.  If we had gone for an ARM with an intro rate when interest rates were at <strong>record lows</strong> we could probably be saving thousands in interest payments through Bush's plan, depending on how they view the incomes of a teacher and a financial aid worker.</p>
<p>Silly me, I thought the low fixed rate was the safe and prudent way to go.</p>
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		<title>By: BUSH&#8217;S PLAN TO PEE ON ECONOMIC FOREST FIRE</title>
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		<dc:creator>BUSH&#8217;S PLAN TO PEE ON ECONOMIC FOREST FIRE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 23:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Joyner of OUTSIDE THE BELTWAY also has a piece, MORTAGE COMPANIES TO FREEZE &#8220;TEASER&#8221; RATES. He makes a very good point: Duncan Black contends that stipulations in the plan will actually have [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Joyner of OUTSIDE THE BELTWAY also has a piece, MORTAGE COMPANIES TO FREEZE &#8220;TEASER&#8221; RATES. He makes a very good point: Duncan Black contends that stipulations in the plan will actually have [...]</p>
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		<title>By: C.Wagener</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/mortgage_companies_to_freeze_teaser_rates/comment-page-1/#comment-247371</link>
		<dc:creator>C.Wagener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 22:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

You say:

&quot;Don&#039;t buy a home until you are 30? I made over a year&#039;s salary on my home sale before I was 30 and now pay a mortgage on a home that i can afford...&quot;

Read literally you bought a house you couldn&#039;t afford, but got out before you had a problem.  You had carry costs on your down payment, any additional equity, insurance, maintenance, etc.  Then you had leveraged risk.  Do you think your risk adjusted return was worth it?  You cannot say everything was cool because in the end it worked out.  That&#039;s what this is about.  People assumed prices would always go up and now they&#039;re loosing a year&#039;s salary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>You say:</p>
<p>"Don't buy a home until you are 30? I made over a year's salary on my home sale before I was 30 and now pay a mortgage on a home that i can afford..."</p>
<p>Read literally you bought a house you couldn't afford, but got out before you had a problem.  You had carry costs on your down payment, any additional equity, insurance, maintenance, etc.  Then you had leveraged risk.  Do you think your risk adjusted return was worth it?  You cannot say everything was cool because in the end it worked out.  That's what this is about.  People assumed prices would always go up and now they're loosing a year's salary.</p>
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		<title>By: Stormy Dragon</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/mortgage_companies_to_freeze_teaser_rates/comment-page-1/#comment-247332</link>
		<dc:creator>Stormy Dragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 21:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;she figures it’s “worth it” because “the market
&gt;is currently in the grips of terror” and
&gt;this “may allay those fears enough to ease the
&gt;credit crunch.”

How exactly adding an addition risk (that of the loan agreement being arbitarily re-written to suit political pressure) going to ease the credit crunch?  In my mind, this move is likely to make credit even scarcer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;she figures it&rsquo;s “worth it” because “the market<br />
&gt;is currently in the grips of terror” and<br />
&gt;this “may allay those fears enough to ease the<br />
&gt;credit crunch.”</p>
<p>How exactly adding an addition risk (that of the loan agreement being arbitarily re-written to suit political pressure) going to ease the credit crunch?  In my mind, this move is likely to make credit even scarcer.</p>
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		<title>By: Dadmanly</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/mortgage_companies_to_freeze_teaser_rates/comment-page-1/#comment-247331</link>
		<dc:creator>Dadmanly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 21:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reasonable, I suppose, if it chastens lenders in future, strengthens markets, and sets some kind of &quot;not again&quot; to both lenders and borrowers for this amnesty for &quot;stupid.&quot;

Meanwhile, those of us who read loan terms, do the right thing, don&#039;t look for bailouts, buy what we can afford or wait until we can, can only draw one conclusion.

The New AmericaTM will never let you suffer for your own greed, incompetence, or selfishness.

I referred above to baloon borrowers as stupid, but who&#039;s the fool if there&#039;s no penalty to getting loans I can&#039;t pay for stuff I can&#039;t afford?

Keep it up America. Keep looking for Government to protect you even from the stupid things you do to yourself, and eventually, we&#039;ll all be entirely protected from Freedom of any kind.

But right now, I have to look into getting myself a big baloon mortgage, cause I don&#039;t want to miss out on the big cash bailout!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reasonable, I suppose, if it chastens lenders in future, strengthens markets, and sets some kind of "not again" to both lenders and borrowers for this amnesty for "stupid."</p>
<p>Meanwhile, those of us who read loan terms, do the right thing, don't look for bailouts, buy what we can afford or wait until we can, can only draw one conclusion.</p>
<p>The New AmericaTM will never let you suffer for your own greed, incompetence, or selfishness.</p>
<p>I referred above to baloon borrowers as stupid, but who's the fool if there's no penalty to getting loans I can't pay for stuff I can't afford?</p>
<p>Keep it up America. Keep looking for Government to protect you even from the stupid things you do to yourself, and eventually, we'll all be entirely protected from Freedom of any kind.</p>
<p>But right now, I have to look into getting myself a big baloon mortgage, cause I don't want to miss out on the big cash bailout!</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Swank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Swank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 20:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For what it&#039;s worth, Paul Krugman is no fan of this administration but he endorses this plan.  It seems like a fairly reasonable step.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it's worth, Paul Krugman is no fan of this administration but he endorses this plan.  It seems like a fairly reasonable step.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/mortgage_companies_to_freeze_teaser_rates/comment-page-1/#comment-247320</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 20:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah yes; protecting people from themselves - the new role of the gov&#039;t. If you can&#039;t figure out what you can and cannot afford then you should not be able to own it.

Don&#039;t buy a home until you are 30? I made over a year&#039;s salary on my homesale before I was 30 and now pay a mortgage on a home that i can afford - I could have bought a home twice the size the one I am in now, but that would 1) be dumb b/c I don&#039;t need it 2) too expensive. maybe I will just refinance, take out all the equity, and buy lottery tickets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes; protecting people from themselves - the new role of the gov't. If you can't figure out what you can and cannot afford then you should not be able to own it.</p>
<p>Don't buy a home until you are 30? I made over a year's salary on my homesale before I was 30 and now pay a mortgage on a home that i can afford - I could have bought a home twice the size the one I am in now, but that would 1) be dumb b/c I don't need it 2) too expensive. maybe I will just refinance, take out all the equity, and buy lottery tickets.</p>
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		<title>By: southdakotaboy</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/mortgage_companies_to_freeze_teaser_rates/comment-page-1/#comment-247315</link>
		<dc:creator>southdakotaboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 20:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course this is good policy in the fact that it will hopefully stop the left from doing something even more harmful. That is all it boils down to. Hillary has already been issuing threats to Wallstreet about what she will do if they don&#039;t do what she says. Anything that helps stop that communist in a Pink Pantsuit is good policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course this is good policy in the fact that it will hopefully stop the left from doing something even more harmful. That is all it boils down to. Hillary has already been issuing threats to Wallstreet about what she will do if they don't do what she says. Anything that helps stop that communist in a Pink Pantsuit is good policy.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 19:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I&#039;ve decided that I&#039;m against guard rails on highway curves, because they waste my tax dollars to protect people from their own bad choices.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Presumably, though, there&#039;s some limit to what you&#039;re willing to invest in this regard?  If guard rails were a thousand times more expensive, you&#039;d likely be against them?  Or at least ration them more prudently than is now the case?

And people go off the road for all manner of reasons, most of them not related to poor driving. Getting into a cheaper mortgage with a teaser rate, by comparison, is always a conscious decision made over a relatively long period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I've decided that I'm against guard rails on highway curves, because they waste my tax dollars to protect people from their own bad choices.</p></blockquote>
<p>Presumably, though, there's some limit to what you're willing to invest in this regard?  If guard rails were a thousand times more expensive, you'd likely be against them?  Or at least ration them more prudently than is now the case?</p>
<p>And people go off the road for all manner of reasons, most of them not related to poor driving. Getting into a cheaper mortgage with a teaser rate, by comparison, is always a conscious decision made over a relatively long period.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 19:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve decided that I&#039;m against guard rails on highway curves, because they waste my tax dollars to protect people from their own bad choices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've decided that I'm against guard rails on highway curves, because they waste my tax dollars to protect people from their own bad choices.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott_T</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/mortgage_companies_to_freeze_teaser_rates/comment-page-1/#comment-247298</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott_T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 19:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And of course, everyone in 2012 will still blame Bush for shaping that election.

Bonus points for Dubya!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And of course, everyone in 2012 will still blame Bush for shaping that election.</p>
<p>Bonus points for Dubya!</p>
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		<title>By: C.Wagener</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/mortgage_companies_to_freeze_teaser_rates/comment-page-1/#comment-247297</link>
		<dc:creator>C.Wagener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 19:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is terrible public policy, but better than many of the other things being floated.  The constant assertion that home ownership is inevitably positive and worthy of tax breaks is dubious.  Buying a house ties up large amounts of money and reduces people&#039;s mobility, harming careers.  I think it&#039;s rare than anyone should be a home owner before their 30th birthday.

Unfortunately we can&#039;t complain about the politicians, since we are getting policy the public demands.  Nothing bad can happen, and if it does it must be the government&#039;s fault, not bad decisions by citizens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is terrible public policy, but better than many of the other things being floated.  The constant assertion that home ownership is inevitably positive and worthy of tax breaks is dubious.  Buying a house ties up large amounts of money and reduces people's mobility, harming careers.  I think it's rare than anyone should be a home owner before their 30th birthday.</p>
<p>Unfortunately we can't complain about the politicians, since we are getting policy the public demands.  Nothing bad can happen, and if it does it must be the government's fault, not bad decisions by citizens.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott_T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott_T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 19:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The five year freeze is to drop the unfreezing in the next president&#039;s lap during the 2012 election.

Duh.  :D

Either the next president shall unfreeze it before 2012 if everything has corrected itself, or if (s)he see&#039;s (s)he&#039;s in trouble, (s)he won&#039;t unfreeze it, and let it be something to debate during election runoffs and drop it in the next electee&#039;s lap once he&#039;s elected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The five year freeze is to drop the unfreezing in the next president's lap during the 2012 election.</p>
<p>Duh.  :D</p>
<p>Either the next president shall unfreeze it before 2012 if everything has corrected itself, or if (s)he see's (s)he's in trouble, (s)he won't unfreeze it, and let it be something to debate during election runoffs and drop it in the next electee's lap once he's elected.</p>
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