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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/most_corrupt_states/comment-page-1/#comment-538575</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Not quite Bit, one would have to discount totally the &quot;Heckuvajob, Brownie&quot; comment to reach that step. It showed that Bush, not only did he not have a clue, he did not care.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, it doesn&#039;t. what it showed was that Bush was recoginzing that the federal government lived up to the expectations both they and the states thee signed on for, and Brown did a fair enough job there. The complaints, apparently are because the federal government dind&#039;t anticiapet the level of unfitness in the democrats within those states.
 
Nagin, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Not quite Bit, one would have to discount totally the "Heckuvajob, Brownie" comment to reach that step. It showed that Bush, not only did he not have a clue, he did not care.</p></blockquote>
<p>No, it doesn't. what it showed was that Bush was recoginzing that the federal government lived up to the expectations both they and the states thee signed on for, and Brown did a fair enough job there. The complaints, apparently are because the federal government dind't anticiapet the level of unfitness in the democrats within those states.</p>
<p>Nagin, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 04:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s so special about Mississippi and Louisiana that makes them so corrupt? The rest of the states seem to be almost on a line of slowly increasing corruption - until suddenly Mississippi and Louisiana jump way out ahead of the pack. 

I&#039;m guessing that in Louisiana&#039;s case it has and had to do with oil, but what about Mississippi?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What's so special about Mississippi and Louisiana that makes them so corrupt? The rest of the states seem to be almost on a line of slowly increasing corruption - until suddenly Mississippi and Louisiana jump way out ahead of the pack. </p>
<p>I'm guessing that in Louisiana's case it has and had to do with oil, but what about Mississippi?</p>
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		<title>By: Floyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does the chart simply indicate that Oregon tolerates the most corruption without legal action, or does it indicate that they have the smallest number corrupt officials?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does the chart simply indicate that Oregon tolerates the most corruption without legal action, or does it indicate that they have the smallest number corrupt officials?</p>
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		<title>By: Floyd</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/most_corrupt_states/comment-page-1/#comment-538135</link>
		<dc:creator>Floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The above chart has little value.
Competent corruption remains unexposed!
Incompetent corruption that remains unpunished is not mentioned.
 So, conviction rates could be construed as a measure of intolerance of corruption, not tolerance, depending on the percentage of all corruption that is both detected and punished.
 Perhaps the chart might be an indicator of a ranking of incompetence in state elected officials,albeit a poor one. 
 Illinois still remains the most corrupt state in the union!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The above chart has little value.<br />
Competent corruption remains unexposed!<br />
Incompetent corruption that remains unpunished is not mentioned.<br />
 So, conviction rates could be construed as a measure of intolerance of corruption, not tolerance, depending on the percentage of all corruption that is both detected and punished.<br />
 Perhaps the chart might be an indicator of a ranking of incompetence in state elected officials,albeit a poor one.<br />
 Illinois still remains the most corrupt state in the union!</p>
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		<title>By: John Burgess</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Burgess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 23:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A study that purports to measure local corruption but does not include either Rhode Island or Delaware? Ha ha ha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A study that purports to measure local corruption but does not include either Rhode Island or Delaware? Ha ha ha!</p>
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		<title>By: tom p</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 23:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You mean state and local officials were in no way responsible?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Not quite, Steve. Reread my comment with your considerable powers of comprehension, and I think my point will come clear to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You mean state and local officials were in no way responsible?</p></blockquote>
<p>Not quite, Steve. Reread my comment with your considerable powers of comprehension, and I think my point will come clear to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Verdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Verdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;And why divide by the size of the population?  Every state has precisely one governor, two senators, one secretary of state, etc. regardless of population.   It’s true that large states have more Members of Congress and tend to have more local officials.  But, again, adding them in muddies the waters unnecessarily.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I mostly agree.  For things like U.S. Senators, Governors, and other offices invariant to population then the data should not be normalized to population.  U.S. Congressmen, State level assemblymen and local officials...okay normalize by population.  So a composite index.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Not quite Bit, one would have to discount totally the &quot;Heckuvajob, Brownie&quot; comment to reach that step. It showed that Bush, not only did he not have a clue, he did not care.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You mean state and local officials were in no way responsible?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And why divide by the size of the population?  Every state has precisely one governor, two senators, one secretary of state, etc. regardless of population.   It&rsquo;s true that large states have more Members of Congress and tend to have more local officials.  But, again, adding them in muddies the waters unnecessarily.</p></blockquote>
<p>I mostly agree.  For things like U.S. Senators, Governors, and other offices invariant to population then the data should not be normalized to population.  U.S. Congressmen, State level assemblymen and local officials...okay normalize by population.  So a composite index.</p>
<blockquote><p>Not quite Bit, one would have to discount totally the "Heckuvajob, Brownie" comment to reach that step. It showed that Bush, not only did he not have a clue, he did not care.</p></blockquote>
<p>You mean state and local officials were in no way responsible?</p>
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		<title>By: tom p</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So, can we now admit to ourselves that the reason NOLA was so fouled up in Katrina wasn&#039;t the Bush administration, and was Louisiana&#039;s corrupt &#039;public servants&#039;?

I mean, isn&#039;t that the next logical step?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Not quite Bit, one would have to discount totally the &quot;Heckuvajob, Brownie&quot; comment to reach that step. It showed that Bush, not only did he not have a clue, he did not care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So, can we now admit to ourselves that the reason NOLA was so fouled up in Katrina wasn't the Bush administration, and was Louisiana's corrupt 'public servants'?</p>
<p>I mean, isn't that the next logical step?</p></blockquote>
<p>Not quite Bit, one would have to discount totally the "Heckuvajob, Brownie" comment to reach that step. It showed that Bush, not only did he not have a clue, he did not care.</p>
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		<title>By: ap</title>
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		<dc:creator>ap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What a surprise that the top 4 are all Southern States!!!!
Yes, the good old Republican states, so is it any wonder....power and greed are what that party thrive on.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

louisiana is not a republican state...and why stop at 4? why not the top 10? according to this list, 6 for dems, 3 for repubs, and 1 barely leaning dem in LA.

of course, let me fill in your rebuttal:

OMG GOPers ARE EVIL!!!! BUSH LIED PEOPLE DIED.


corruption is not a partisan issue, its a politician issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What a surprise that the top 4 are all Southern States!!!!<br />
Yes, the good old Republican states, so is it any wonder....power and greed are what that party thrive on.</p></blockquote>
<p>louisiana is not a republican state...and why stop at 4? why not the top 10? according to this list, 6 for dems, 3 for repubs, and 1 barely leaning dem in LA.</p>
<p>of course, let me fill in your rebuttal:</p>
<p>OMG GOPers ARE EVIL!!!! BUSH LIED PEOPLE DIED.</p>
<p>corruption is not a partisan issue, its a politician issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, can we now admit to ourselves that the reason NOLA was so fouled up in Katrina wasn&#039;t the Bush administration, and &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;was&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; Louisiana&#039;s corrupt &#039;public servants&#039;?

I mean, isn&#039;t that the next logical step?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, can we now admit to ourselves that the reason NOLA was so fouled up in Katrina wasn't the Bush administration, and <em><strong>was</strong></em> Louisiana's corrupt 'public servants'?</p>
<p>I mean, isn't that the next logical step?</p>
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		<title>By: just me</title>
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		<dc:creator>just me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although anyone who has ever lived in LA or KY would immediately know that both of those states are mostly democrat controlled.  My dad (I grew up in KY) fit much more with the GOP in his opinions but was a registered democrat because, almost all the local and in some cases county and state elections were really decided during the primary.  Locally more often than not the democrat either ran unopposed, or had such a huge advantage over the republican that he might as well have run unopposed.

I would also think convictions aren&#039;t the best measure of corruption-after all what is more corrupt the guy who gets caught and convicted or a system where everyone turns a bind eye to the corruption and it is expected?  Just look at Bagojevich-he was elected and especially re-elected in spite of rumors about his corruption.

How many years has Blago been dirty?  How long have their been suspicions about the Chicago Daley political machine?  Anyone doubt that there isn&#039;t some at the very least unethical if not illegal stuff going on there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although anyone who has ever lived in LA or KY would immediately know that both of those states are mostly democrat controlled.  My dad (I grew up in KY) fit much more with the GOP in his opinions but was a registered democrat because, almost all the local and in some cases county and state elections were really decided during the primary.  Locally more often than not the democrat either ran unopposed, or had such a huge advantage over the republican that he might as well have run unopposed.</p>
<p>I would also think convictions aren't the best measure of corruption-after all what is more corrupt the guy who gets caught and convicted or a system where everyone turns a bind eye to the corruption and it is expected?  Just look at Bagojevich-he was elected and especially re-elected in spite of rumors about his corruption.</p>
<p>How many years has Blago been dirty?  How long have their been suspicions about the Chicago Daley political machine?  Anyone doubt that there isn't some at the very least unethical if not illegal stuff going on there?</p>
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		<title>By: tom p</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am disappointed... we here in Misery got some work to do... 15th place! Hmmmphhh!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am disappointed... we here in Misery got some work to do... 15th place! Hmmmphhh!!</p>
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		<title>By: caj</title>
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		<dc:creator>caj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a surprise that the top 4 are all Southern States!!!!
Yes, the good old Republican states, so is it any wonder....power and greed are what that party thrive on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a surprise that the top 4 are all Southern States!!!!<br />
Yes, the good old Republican states, so is it any wonder....power and greed are what that party thrive on.</p>
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