<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Move to Fire Professor For 9/11 Conspiracy Views</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/move_to_fire_professor_for_911_conspiracy_views/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/move_to_fire_professor_for_911_conspiracy_views/</link>
	<description>Online Journal of Politics and Foreign Affairs</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:23:30 -0600</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: RJN</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/move_to_fire_professor_for_911_conspiracy_views/comment-page-1/#comment-99415</link>
		<dc:creator>RJN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Oct 2006 00:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2006/09/move_to_fire_professor_for_911_conspiracy_views/#comment-99415</guid>
		<description>This Professor may be right about a cover-up, or insiders, within or close to the administration, having advance knowledge of the attacks. With all that came out in the days following the attacks it seems to me probable that someone, who could have helped us stop them, had knowledge.

If his theories contain claims that the buildings were wired with explosives, then I would say, not so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Professor may be right about a cover-up, or insiders, within or close to the administration, having advance knowledge of the attacks. With all that came out in the days following the attacks it seems to me probable that someone, who could have helped us stop them, had knowledge.</p>
<p>If his theories contain claims that the buildings were wired with explosives, then I would say, not so.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/move_to_fire_professor_for_911_conspiracy_views/comment-page-1/#comment-99323</link>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 21:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2006/09/move_to_fire_professor_for_911_conspiracy_views/#comment-99323</guid>
		<description>jeff:  In the old days, small state schools, especially those which began as Teachers&#039; Colleges, tended to have underwhelming faculty without terminal degrees and little in the way of research expectation.  Many schools still use MA-only lecturers for some survey courses, especially remedial English.  Still, even backwater institutions now have the luxury of insisting its profs have PhDs and produce research.

Schoolteachers, by contrast, tend to have undergraduate degrees in Education with perhaps a graduate certificate, also in Education, which pays them more money.  They have little control over their curriculum, teaching rote subjects from rather scanty expertise.  It&#039;s just night and day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jeff:  In the old days, small state schools, especially those which began as Teachers' Colleges, tended to have underwhelming faculty without terminal degrees and little in the way of research expectation.  Many schools still use MA-only lecturers for some survey courses, especially remedial English.  Still, even backwater institutions now have the luxury of insisting its profs have PhDs and produce research.</p>
<p>Schoolteachers, by contrast, tend to have undergraduate degrees in Education with perhaps a graduate certificate, also in Education, which pays them more money.  They have little control over their curriculum, teaching rote subjects from rather scanty expertise.  It's just night and day.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/move_to_fire_professor_for_911_conspiracy_views/comment-page-1/#comment-99319</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 20:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2006/09/move_to_fire_professor_for_911_conspiracy_views/#comment-99319</guid>
		<description>Firstly, two things about your response to me: 1)  Students and inmates are vastly different as students chose to be in college (for the most part) and inmates are placed in prisons or asylums involuntarily. 2)  while it may be argued that &quot;few students 18-22 have any clue about how they should be educated, chances are that the &quot;few who do&quot; know how they should be educated are those same &#039;few&#039; who are working so hard to call attention to the behavior of their professor.  If they didn&#039;t know (or care) about how/what/why to be educated, they wouldn&#039;t concern themselves with taking up arms against a professor who has more training, more power and more clout than even the entire student body combined.

Secondly, I think you (we) give college professors too much credit.  They definitely don&#039;t spend as much time in the classroom as an average &#039;teacher&#039;--which you pointed out.  However, not all of them--particularly ones at small state schools--do ANY outside, original research projects of their own.  I can think of a dozen professors just at the university I attend who A) don&#039;t have their doctorates B) don&#039;t plan to get their doctorates and C) believe that since that A) don&#039;t have them and B) don&#039;t want them they aren&#039;t required to do any original research.  That isn&#039;t to say that don&#039;t prepare for lectures by gathering information, but isn&#039;t that what a teacher does five days a week 4,5,7 or 8 times a day?  I think it is...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly, two things about your response to me: 1)  Students and inmates are vastly different as students chose to be in college (for the most part) and inmates are placed in prisons or asylums involuntarily. 2)  while it may be argued that "few students 18-22 have any clue about how they should be educated, chances are that the "few who do" know how they should be educated are those same 'few' who are working so hard to call attention to the behavior of their professor.  If they didn't know (or care) about how/what/why to be educated, they wouldn't concern themselves with taking up arms against a professor who has more training, more power and more clout than even the entire student body combined.</p>
<p>Secondly, I think you (we) give college professors too much credit.  They definitely don't spend as much time in the classroom as an average 'teacher'--which you pointed out.  However, not all of them--particularly ones at small state schools--do ANY outside, original research projects of their own.  I can think of a dozen professors just at the university I attend who A) don't have their doctorates B) don't plan to get their doctorates and C) believe that since that A) don't have them and B) don't want them they aren't required to do any original research.  That isn't to say that don't prepare for lectures by gathering information, but isn't that what a teacher does five days a week 4,5,7 or 8 times a day?  I think it is...</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/move_to_fire_professor_for_911_conspiracy_views/comment-page-1/#comment-99300</link>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 17:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2006/09/move_to_fire_professor_for_911_conspiracy_views/#comment-99300</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;they don’t work as much.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

They spend, on average, less time in the classroom, to be sure.  Research, writing, and other professional obligations tend to eat up a lot more time, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>they don&rsquo;t work as much.</p></blockquote>
<p>They spend, on average, less time in the classroom, to be sure.  Research, writing, and other professional obligations tend to eat up a lot more time, though.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Bandit</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/move_to_fire_professor_for_911_conspiracy_views/comment-page-1/#comment-99299</link>
		<dc:creator>Bandit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 17:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2006/09/move_to_fire_professor_for_911_conspiracy_views/#comment-99299</guid>
		<description>&#039;Professors are not mere schoolteachers.&#039;

Mere? Oh - I know they don&#039;t work as much.


&#039;It’s not inconceivable to me, though, that he could have a lecture on how people perceived the 9/11 attacks or how people process information and form opinions based on media reports and use his revisionist belief as part of an interesting to-and-fro with the students. &#039;

Well then that wouldn&#039;t really be keeping his personal opinions to himself. 

All I&#039;m saying is that while I don&#039;t agree with him I don&#039;t see why even if he does convey his beliefs as his beliefs in context of what he&#039;s supposed to be doing it&#039;s a firing offense. The last I heard it was still a free country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>'Professors are not mere schoolteachers.'</p>
<p>Mere? Oh - I know they don't work as much.</p>
<p>'It&rsquo;s not inconceivable to me, though, that he could have a lecture on how people perceived the 9/11 attacks or how people process information and form opinions based on media reports and use his revisionist belief as part of an interesting to-and-fro with the students. '</p>
<p>Well then that wouldn't really be keeping his personal opinions to himself. </p>
<p>All I'm saying is that while I don't agree with him I don't see why even if he does convey his beliefs as his beliefs in context of what he's supposed to be doing it's a firing offense. The last I heard it was still a free country.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/move_to_fire_professor_for_911_conspiracy_views/comment-page-1/#comment-99298</link>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 17:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2006/09/move_to_fire_professor_for_911_conspiracy_views/#comment-99298</guid>
		<description>jeff:  One does not let the inmates run the asylum.  Frankly, few 18-22 year olds have any clue about how they should be educated, let alone the capabilities of professors who have, by definition in most cases, passed professional muster by earning their doctorate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jeff:  One does not let the inmates run the asylum.  Frankly, few 18-22 year olds have any clue about how they should be educated, let alone the capabilities of professors who have, by definition in most cases, passed professional muster by earning their doctorate.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/move_to_fire_professor_for_911_conspiracy_views/comment-page-1/#comment-99297</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 17:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2006/09/move_to_fire_professor_for_911_conspiracy_views/#comment-99297</guid>
		<description>James,

I&#039;m with Steve. Regardless of where the money that actually goes into the paycheck of the professor, the student (ME) still spends too much money to not have at least a say in what goes on in the classroom.  Besides that, if we&#039;re going to say that it&#039;s state subsidies that go to the actual paycheck (in the case of state schools such as the one I&#039;m at) then are we saying that the state should have control over what they say?  Same with if the money comes from private donations.  If John Doe the millionaire donates a million bucks to pay for the salaries of 10 professors at a private university, is that saying that John should be able to help decide if the professing of those professors is appropriate?  Probably not.  The ultimate responsibility (and therefore the power) MUST reside with the students--they (we) are the ones who are forced to sit and listen to the mad rantings of such profs and as such they should have the power to recommend--even strongly recommend--what kind of teachers should be at the university.

As for the belief that &quot;professors are not just school-teachers&quot; I think that depends on the context.  Inside the classroom they ARE just school teachers, especially at the undergraduate level--they just happen to be more highly trained.  Another person pointed out that essays, articles, opinion papers etc. are the place for them to present their theories, not the minds of the impressionable students in their poli-sci 101 class(or whatever under-grad course).  Too often professors think that they have a platform to use for whatever they want and that belief goes unchecked.  And that is just not acceptable.

(on a side note, one of my education professors here says that--though he is not a fan of all aspects of NCLB--he thinks having a standards based curriculum at the college level where professors are held accountable is a good idea and that the tenure system is &quot;fundamentally flawed.&quot;  I don&#039;t know that I agree with that, but it certainly is something to ponder...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James,</p>
<p>I'm with Steve. Regardless of where the money that actually goes into the paycheck of the professor, the student (ME) still spends too much money to not have at least a say in what goes on in the classroom.  Besides that, if we're going to say that it's state subsidies that go to the actual paycheck (in the case of state schools such as the one I'm at) then are we saying that the state should have control over what they say?  Same with if the money comes from private donations.  If John Doe the millionaire donates a million bucks to pay for the salaries of 10 professors at a private university, is that saying that John should be able to help decide if the professing of those professors is appropriate?  Probably not.  The ultimate responsibility (and therefore the power) MUST reside with the students--they (we) are the ones who are forced to sit and listen to the mad rantings of such profs and as such they should have the power to recommend--even strongly recommend--what kind of teachers should be at the university.</p>
<p>As for the belief that "professors are not just school-teachers" I think that depends on the context.  Inside the classroom they ARE just school teachers, especially at the undergraduate level--they just happen to be more highly trained.  Another person pointed out that essays, articles, opinion papers etc. are the place for them to present their theories, not the minds of the impressionable students in their poli-sci 101 class(or whatever under-grad course).  Too often professors think that they have a platform to use for whatever they want and that belief goes unchecked.  And that is just not acceptable.</p>
<p>(on a side note, one of my education professors here says that--though he is not a fan of all aspects of NCLB--he thinks having a standards based curriculum at the college level where professors are held accountable is a good idea and that the tenure system is "fundamentally flawed."  I don't know that I agree with that, but it certainly is something to ponder...)</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: LJD</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/move_to_fire_professor_for_911_conspiracy_views/comment-page-1/#comment-99293</link>
		<dc:creator>LJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 16:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2006/09/move_to_fire_professor_for_911_conspiracy_views/#comment-99293</guid>
		<description>Aside from the special class of citizen manufactured by this intellectual elite (no offense), teaching is a job.  Most people cannot spout off at the mouth (outside of their job description) at work and get away with it. 

Students deserve the education they are promised, regardless of who pays for it.  According to the information a few posts down, it&#039;s not happening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aside from the special class of citizen manufactured by this intellectual elite (no offense), teaching is a job.  Most people cannot spout off at the mouth (outside of their job description) at work and get away with it. </p>
<p>Students deserve the education they are promised, regardless of who pays for it.  According to the information a few posts down, it's not happening.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Y.A.C.R.W.B&#187; Blog Archive &#187;</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/move_to_fire_professor_for_911_conspiracy_views/comment-page-1/#comment-99291</link>
		<dc:creator>Y.A.C.R.W.B&#187; Blog Archive &#187;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 16:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2006/09/move_to_fire_professor_for_911_conspiracy_views/#comment-99291</guid>
		<description>[...] A similar view was posted on OTB. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A similar view was posted on OTB. [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Steven Plunk</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/move_to_fire_professor_for_911_conspiracy_views/comment-page-1/#comment-99287</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Plunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 16:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2006/09/move_to_fire_professor_for_911_conspiracy_views/#comment-99287</guid>
		<description>Hiding behind academic freedom to avoid responsibility for ones words is common for these nut jobs.  I don&#039;t see a connection to academic freedom in this case.

While tuition is only a part of the overall revenue needed to run a college or university it is still a great deal of money.  Students must have a right to monitor and speak out against abuses such this.

At the undergraduate level these guys are not much more than teachers, so teach.  Academic freedom should be exercised when writing papers or articles for professional journals, those are the peers who should ridicule, not students, it&#039;s not there place or responsibility to take on those who grade them.  Disputes with professors usually end up with the student losing.

This is typical public sector nonsense with everyone expecting accountability to addressed by the offending parties themselves.  It doesn&#039;t happen.  In an effort to just get along many of these abuses are swept under the rug and ignored.  Outside intervention is long overdue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hiding behind academic freedom to avoid responsibility for ones words is common for these nut jobs.  I don't see a connection to academic freedom in this case.</p>
<p>While tuition is only a part of the overall revenue needed to run a college or university it is still a great deal of money.  Students must have a right to monitor and speak out against abuses such this.</p>
<p>At the undergraduate level these guys are not much more than teachers, so teach.  Academic freedom should be exercised when writing papers or articles for professional journals, those are the peers who should ridicule, not students, it's not there place or responsibility to take on those who grade them.  Disputes with professors usually end up with the student losing.</p>
<p>This is typical public sector nonsense with everyone expecting accountability to addressed by the offending parties themselves.  It doesn't happen.  In an effort to just get along many of these abuses are swept under the rug and ignored.  Outside intervention is long overdue.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/move_to_fire_professor_for_911_conspiracy_views/comment-page-1/#comment-99285</link>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 15:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2006/09/move_to_fire_professor_for_911_conspiracy_views/#comment-99285</guid>
		<description>Bandit:  Professors are not mere schoolteachers.  Their expert opinions on various matters are part and parcel of &quot;doing their job.&quot;  To the extent his private views have nothing to do with his subject matter--as would appear the case here, although, again, it&#039;s not my field of study--then he should indeed keep them out of the classroom.

It&#039;s not inconceivable to me, though, that he could have a lecture on how people perceived the 9/11 attacks or how people process information and form opinions based on media reports and use his revisionist belief as part of an interesting to-and-fro with the students.  Controversy and going against student preconceptions are excellent teaching devices if properly employed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bandit:  Professors are not mere schoolteachers.  Their expert opinions on various matters are part and parcel of "doing their job."  To the extent his private views have nothing to do with his subject matter--as would appear the case here, although, again, it's not my field of study--then he should indeed keep them out of the classroom.</p>
<p>It's not inconceivable to me, though, that he could have a lecture on how people perceived the 9/11 attacks or how people process information and form opinions based on media reports and use his revisionist belief as part of an interesting to-and-fro with the students.  Controversy and going against student preconceptions are excellent teaching devices if properly employed.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/move_to_fire_professor_for_911_conspiracy_views/comment-page-1/#comment-99284</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 15:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2006/09/move_to_fire_professor_for_911_conspiracy_views/#comment-99284</guid>
		<description>James,
I&#039;ll add my vote to the &quot;ridicule Woodward&quot; group.  He has a right to hold his views, speak his views and even use his views to illustrate &quot;delusional&quot; syndromes, which would fit his coursework.  And like he has a right to his views, we have a right to mock those views and those who hold them.  

I wrote this about a &lt;a href=&quot;http://ennuipundit.wordpress.com/2006/08/30/impenetrable-ivory-towers/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;month ago&lt;/a&gt; when Inside Higher Ed first reported on this story.
&lt;blockquote&gt;While many groups, notably the Kos Kids, have purity tests for their candidates and standard bearers, as a nation that values free speech, we should accept the dissent of others.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I don&#039;t agree with Woodward.  I find the student action to work to get him fired troubling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James,<br />
I'll add my vote to the "ridicule Woodward" group.  He has a right to hold his views, speak his views and even use his views to illustrate "delusional" syndromes, which would fit his coursework.  And like he has a right to his views, we have a right to mock those views and those who hold them.  </p>
<p>I wrote this about a <a href="http://ennuipundit.wordpress.com/2006/08/30/impenetrable-ivory-towers/" rel="nofollow">month ago</a> when Inside Higher Ed first reported on this story.</p>
<blockquote><p>While many groups, notably the Kos Kids, have purity tests for their candidates and standard bearers, as a nation that values free speech, we should accept the dissent of others.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don't agree with Woodward.  I find the student action to work to get him fired troubling.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Bandit</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/move_to_fire_professor_for_911_conspiracy_views/comment-page-1/#comment-99274</link>
		<dc:creator>Bandit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2006/09/move_to_fire_professor_for_911_conspiracy_views/#comment-99274</guid>
		<description>How about they just instruct him to do his job and keep his private beliefs to himself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about they just instruct him to do his job and keep his private beliefs to himself?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/move_to_fire_professor_for_911_conspiracy_views/comment-page-1/#comment-99272</link>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2006/09/move_to_fire_professor_for_911_conspiracy_views/#comment-99272</guid>
		<description>LJD/jeff: 

At most schools, tuition receipts fall far short of meeting the budgetary requirements.  Subsidies from the state (in the case of public institutions), private donations, athletics (in the case of big-time football and basketball schools), interest from the endowment, and other monies fund faculty pay.

Students have a customer service relationship with the school from an administrative standpoint, not an educational one. Students aren&#039;t customers of professors, they are apprentices to be mentored.

LJD: 

Professors at state schools are not political appointees of the governor. Indeed, they&#039;re not ordinary civil servants, either.  They&#039;re subject matter experts hired to increase the body of knowledge in their field and to engage their students.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LJD/jeff: </p>
<p>At most schools, tuition receipts fall far short of meeting the budgetary requirements.  Subsidies from the state (in the case of public institutions), private donations, athletics (in the case of big-time football and basketball schools), interest from the endowment, and other monies fund faculty pay.</p>
<p>Students have a customer service relationship with the school from an administrative standpoint, not an educational one. Students aren't customers of professors, they are apprentices to be mentored.</p>
<p>LJD: </p>
<p>Professors at state schools are not political appointees of the governor. Indeed, they're not ordinary civil servants, either.  They're subject matter experts hired to increase the body of knowledge in their field and to engage their students.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/move_to_fire_professor_for_911_conspiracy_views/comment-page-1/#comment-99271</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2006/09/move_to_fire_professor_for_911_conspiracy_views/#comment-99271</guid>
		<description>I would agree with the belief that politicians should have no say whatsoever in the hiring/firing of professors.  However, I have to disagree with the idea that students shouldn&#039;t have a say.  While your point that professors must be able to explore unpopular &quot;intellectual&quot; ideas is a valid one, that does not mean that they should be free to say whatever they want with no checks or balances.  It is, after all, the students who are spending outlandish sums of money to pay these people.  If the students do not feel that they are getting a proper education--and they can offer proof--then they should act to--at the very least--make their views known with the hope that some action will be taken.

Should he be fired?  Well, I think that, as you said, this depends on the context of his nutty rants.  Is he somehow tying them into psych class?  I seriously doubt it, but if he is doing so in a valid manner, than this must be considered.  If he, as you said, is simply using his classroom as a platform for his views, then he should be dismissed.

As a current college student, I believe that the students actions should be applauded--they&#039;re standing up and saying they don&#039;t want to pay this guy to spout absolute garbage (which I think we can agree is what he is, in fact, spouting).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would agree with the belief that politicians should have no say whatsoever in the hiring/firing of professors.  However, I have to disagree with the idea that students shouldn't have a say.  While your point that professors must be able to explore unpopular "intellectual" ideas is a valid one, that does not mean that they should be free to say whatever they want with no checks or balances.  It is, after all, the students who are spending outlandish sums of money to pay these people.  If the students do not feel that they are getting a proper education--and they can offer proof--then they should act to--at the very least--make their views known with the hope that some action will be taken.</p>
<p>Should he be fired?  Well, I think that, as you said, this depends on the context of his nutty rants.  Is he somehow tying them into psych class?  I seriously doubt it, but if he is doing so in a valid manner, than this must be considered.  If he, as you said, is simply using his classroom as a platform for his views, then he should be dismissed.</p>
<p>As a current college student, I believe that the students actions should be applauded--they're standing up and saying they don't want to pay this guy to spout absolute garbage (which I think we can agree is what he is, in fact, spouting).</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
