Comments on: MoveOn Got Discount for ‘Betray Us’ Ad

By: Andy

Andy — Fri, 14 Sep 2007 15:15:56 +0000

Were they both in color?

No. Freedom Watch's ad was, apparently.

By: MarkT

MarkT — Fri, 14 Sep 2007 01:49:41 +0000

Did Freedom Watch disclose how much they paid?

Is their organization the same status as MoveOn (e.g. non profit)?

Were the ads placed similarly?

Were they both in color?

etc.

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By: Kathy

Kathy — Thu, 13 Sep 2007 21:12:15 +0000

It may well be that, as Dale Franks contends (in the comments of his co-blogger Bruce McQuain’s post) “nobody pays the full rate for advertising anyway, except for the hayseeds who don’t know any better.” If so, then the “open rate” could well be meaningless.

James, good for you. You're the only rightie blogger I've seen who pointed this out.

By: Wayne

Wayne — Thu, 13 Sep 2007 21:06:55 +0000

That is why campaign finance is a joke. The MSM can give free or discounted media coverage that would normally cost millions to buy to whatever bias cause they want to promote.

By: mw

mw — Thu, 13 Sep 2007 16:44:55 +0000

Correction: $65,000

By: mw

mw — Thu, 13 Sep 2007 16:42:46 +0000

"The organization says it plans to run a response to the MoveOn.org NYT ad in the Times, “and we plan to demand the same ad rate they paid,” New York Times responds: "You are going to give us $167,000 of revenue for a one day, one page ad we otherwise would not have received? Ooh! Ooh! Hurt me!" If the intent was to persuade anyone, the MoveOn ad was a complete waste no matter how much they paid for it. No target audience except the choir. they acheived more polarization and alienation from their position than persuasion. It was pure political masturbation. Apparently it all felt very good to MoveOn and their supporters, but if they had bothered to look up from the mirror, they might have noticed they were not having political intercourse with anyone except themselves. Anyone else seeing it was just compelled to avert their eyes. If all MoveOn wants to do is play with themselves - fine. I just hope they don’t hurt themselves - they look like they are trying way too hard. They would be better off taking that activity behind closed doors where nobody else has to watch.

By: jpe

jpe — Thu, 13 Sep 2007 16:27:27 +0000

What the NYPost should do is confirm that they're run by Vampire hordes that feast on stray dogs captured in the Bronx.

Thanks for getting the ball rolling, Mitch - this is a fun game.

By: Director Mitch

Director Mitch — Thu, 13 Sep 2007 16:03:46 +0000

Well, as a capitalist, free society, the NYT can charge whatever they want to whomever they want. It's not like anyone here is a protected class, and "price discrimination" is quite legal in this case. What the NYT should do is say: "Look, we're biased, and we charge less for political ads that we agree with". End of story. Except that the myth that the press is "impartial" would be blown out of the water. But everyone knows that anyway.