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	<title>Comments on: Lawrence O&#8217;Donnell Says Karl Rove Source in Plame Case</title>
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		<title>By: J Sherwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>J Sherwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 22:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CNN.com finally started covering this story on the home page of their web site Monday.  

Here&#039;s a question:  why is Novak still on CNN&#039;s payroll?  He&#039;s been smelling like a skunk since this story broke two years ago.  He knew exactly what he was doing when he named Plame in his column - compromising national security to grind his political ax.


Why would any news organization lend him credibility by employing him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CNN.com finally started covering this story on the home page of their web site Monday.  </p>
<p>Here's a question:  why is Novak still on CNN's payroll?  He's been smelling like a skunk since this story broke two years ago.  He knew exactly what he was doing when he named Plame in his column - compromising national security to grind his political ax.</p>
<p>Why would any news organization lend him credibility by employing him?</p>
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		<title>By: Independant  Voter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Independant  Voter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 11:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like I&#039;ll be sipping my 30 year old Scotch soon.  If you want up to date info on Rove the traitor scoundrel, don&#039;t go to Fox News they aren&#039;t covering this, though I&#039;m not surprised.

The end is near for Karl and all that&#039;s left is for dubyah to dump him on the curb like last nights trash.

My question to the right wing ideologues still goes without an answer.  If dubyah was such an honorable man, why would he associate himself with a guy like Rove is the first place?  I am left to assume that despite all the rhetoric, you actually like amoral behavior if it suites your politics.
 
Right wing ideologues better tune into your two favorite shill-boys Rush &amp; Hannity for your talking points, it&#039;s going to get rough at the water cooler ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like I'll be sipping my 30 year old Scotch soon.  If you want up to date info on Rove the traitor scoundrel, don't go to Fox News they aren't covering this, though I'm not surprised.</p>
<p>The end is near for Karl and all that's left is for dubyah to dump him on the curb like last nights trash.</p>
<p>My question to the right wing ideologues still goes without an answer.  If dubyah was such an honorable man, why would he associate himself with a guy like Rove is the first place?  I am left to assume that despite all the rhetoric, you actually like amoral behavior if it suites your politics.</p>
<p>Right wing ideologues better tune into your two favorite shill-boys Rush &amp; Hannity for your talking points, it's going to get rough at the water cooler ;)</p>
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		<title>By: J Sherwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>J Sherwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 00:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, today, Scott McClellan (who previously bent himself into a pretzel denying that Rove leaked Plame&#039;s name) suddenly has nothing to say about the same subject.

And, oh my gosh golly, Bush previously asserted that he&#039;d fire anyone in his administration who was involved in this affair.  Oopsies . .   Think he&#039;ll follow through on that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, today, Scott McClellan (who previously bent himself into a pretzel denying that Rove leaked Plame's name) suddenly has nothing to say about the same subject.</p>
<p>And, oh my gosh golly, Bush previously asserted that he'd fire anyone in his administration who was involved in this affair.  Oopsies . .   Think he'll follow through on that?</p>
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		<title>By: Independant  Voter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Independant  Voter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2005 13:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rove should go down for this but the slime that he is, based on his previous behavior, may be able to slither away.  All the while the faithful will gather their talking points from Fox News and ditto land and miss the obvious question.  If dubyah was such an honorable man, why would he associate himself with a guy like Rove is the first place?  Even Bush 41 dumped this guy for his corrupt tactics and moral bankruptcy. It appears that this president is of the mind that the ends justify the means. Remember how the conservatives found that to be so morally reprehensible but have amnesia on this character flaw now?  You have to laugh at the hypocrisy.

If Rove gets what he deserves I will break out my 30 year old single malt and watch the right wing spin this until it crashes with Karl being lead off in hand cuffs.  I am hoping that the right wingâs love for mandatory sentencing guidelines take full measure and it is 2016 before slime boy Rove slithers to the light of day. Where is my smoking jacket, I think this may even call for a nice cigar to celebrate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rove should go down for this but the slime that he is, based on his previous behavior, may be able to slither away.  All the while the faithful will gather their talking points from Fox News and ditto land and miss the obvious question.  If dubyah was such an honorable man, why would he associate himself with a guy like Rove is the first place?  Even Bush 41 dumped this guy for his corrupt tactics and moral bankruptcy. It appears that this president is of the mind that the ends justify the means. Remember how the conservatives found that to be so morally reprehensible but have amnesia on this character flaw now?  You have to laugh at the hypocrisy.</p>
<p>If Rove gets what he deserves I will break out my 30 year old single malt and watch the right wing spin this until it crashes with Karl being lead off in hand cuffs.  I am hoping that the right wingâs love for mandatory sentencing guidelines take full measure and it is 2016 before slime boy Rove slithers to the light of day. Where is my smoking jacket, I think this may even call for a nice cigar to celebrate.</p>
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		<title>By: The Uncooperative Blogger</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Uncooperative Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2005 21:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only report I have seen stated that it mentions Karl Rove, it did not mention him as the source. But I have not had the privilege of reading the documents.

I don&#039;t like speculation in the news. Be patient and the information will come out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only report I have seen stated that it mentions Karl Rove, it did not mention him as the source. But I have not had the privilege of reading the documents.</p>
<p>I don't like speculation in the news. Be patient and the information will come out.</p>
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		<title>By: J Sherwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>J Sherwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2005 18:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why hasn&#039;t Novak been hauled in and forced to name his sources?  He&#039;s the most culpable in this drama.

What deal did Novak work with whom to avoid prosecution?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why hasn't Novak been hauled in and forced to name his sources?  He's the most culpable in this drama.</p>
<p>What deal did Novak work with whom to avoid prosecution?</p>
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		<title>By: Biggs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Biggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2005 23:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would someone kindly explain why reichwing pinheads always seem to have a problem spelling correctly?

Could it be they are misundereducated?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would someone kindly explain why reichwing pinheads always seem to have a problem spelling correctly?</p>
<p>Could it be they are misundereducated?</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2005 22:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Treason is ok if you are republican.

BTW where are those pesky weapons of mass destruction?

Cheers to the must corrupt administration in U.S. history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Treason is ok if you are republican.</p>
<p>BTW where are those pesky weapons of mass destruction?</p>
<p>Cheers to the must corrupt administration in U.S. history.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Carlton (aka Jack Lewis)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny Carlton (aka Jack Lewis)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2005 18:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Around the Blogosphere yet some more&lt;/strong&gt;

O&#039;Donnell claims it was Rove ...No, not Rosie O&#039;Donnell, some guy named Lawrence, who apparently thinks he&#039;s psychic. WizBang (also...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Around the Blogosphere yet some more</strong></p>
<p>O'Donnell claims it was Rove ...No, not Rosie O'Donnell, some guy named Lawrence, who apparently thinks he's psychic. WizBang (also...</p>
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		<title>By: Sgt Fluffy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sgt Fluffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2005 22:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could, but wonât. One of the big underlying factors in how Watergate went down was the fact Richard Nixon just wasnât very likable, and people were much less skeptical of the news media having an agenda of their own in 1974, than they are today. 

Well said McGehee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could, but wonât. One of the big underlying factors in how Watergate went down was the fact Richard Nixon just wasnât very likable, and people were much less skeptical of the news media having an agenda of their own in 1974, than they are today. </p>
<p>Well said McGehee</p>
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		<title>By: Sally</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2005 18:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alert the media!  Liberal Bias everywhere!  Don&#039;t believe me, just ask McGeheeheeheeheehee.

I guess we all knew it was Rove all along.  I mean he is the man with the plan, right?  He is not going to go down for a little thing like this.  The only thing that surprises me is that the trail leads back to him so obviously.  Must be a smokescreen, part of the plan all along:  Lead them and the accusations to Karl who will no doubt have an airtight alibi.  The when the whole thing blows it can all be chalked up to a bunch of over-zealous and incompetent and for good measure liberally biased reporters to be sacrificed for the good of the nation.

If it were not for the good little soldiers who post here, I would not know what to think.  Thank goodness I am free to let someone else think for me.  

God Bless Americorp!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alert the media!  Liberal Bias everywhere!  Don't believe me, just ask McGeheeheeheeheehee.</p>
<p>I guess we all knew it was Rove all along.  I mean he is the man with the plan, right?  He is not going to go down for a little thing like this.  The only thing that surprises me is that the trail leads back to him so obviously.  Must be a smokescreen, part of the plan all along:  Lead them and the accusations to Karl who will no doubt have an airtight alibi.  The when the whole thing blows it can all be chalked up to a bunch of over-zealous and incompetent and for good measure liberally biased reporters to be sacrificed for the good of the nation.</p>
<p>If it were not for the good little soldiers who post here, I would not know what to think.  Thank goodness I am free to let someone else think for me.  </p>
<p>God Bless Americorp!</p>
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		<title>By: McGehee</title>
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		<dc:creator>McGehee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2005 13:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I find it hard to believe that it was Rove, but if it was, it IS a big deal, and a President could fall over it.&lt;/i&gt;

Could, but won&#039;t. One of the big underlying factors in how Watergate went down was the fact Richard Nixon just wasn&#039;t very likable, and people were much less skeptical of the news media having an agenda of their own in 1974, than they are today. Thanks to Dan Rather, the news media have a much harder task in trying to convince mainstream people that George W. Bush is a crook.

Besides, I agree that it&#039;s extremely unlikely Rove really was the leaker. O&#039;Donnell is indulging in wishful thinking not at all unlike that of people who wanted the Downing Street memo to be a smoking gun.

In fact, a lot of people commenting here have long since identified themselves as being predisposed to see anything and everything as a smoking gun to destroy Bush -- even when there is neither smoke nor gun anywhere in the picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I find it hard to believe that it was Rove, but if it was, it IS a big deal, and a President could fall over it.</i></p>
<p>Could, but won't. One of the big underlying factors in how Watergate went down was the fact Richard Nixon just wasn't very likable, and people were much less skeptical of the news media having an agenda of their own in 1974, than they are today. Thanks to Dan Rather, the news media have a much harder task in trying to convince mainstream people that George W. Bush is a crook.</p>
<p>Besides, I agree that it's extremely unlikely Rove really was the leaker. O'Donnell is indulging in wishful thinking not at all unlike that of people who wanted the Downing Street memo to be a smoking gun.</p>
<p>In fact, a lot of people commenting here have long since identified themselves as being predisposed to see anything and everything as a smoking gun to destroy Bush -- even when there is neither smoke nor gun anywhere in the picture.</p>
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		<title>By: Xavier K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xavier K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2005 05:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are told that the reporters cannot protect their sources in this case because the leak was criminal, so there is no doubt that the leaker has committed a crime.  If it was Rove, the buck has  to stop at the Presidentâs desk.  He is responsible for Rove&#039; s actions regardless of the level of information he received on this;  you can delegate authority, you cannot delegate responsibility.  I find it hard to believe that it was Rove, but if it was, it IS a big deal, and a President could fall over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are told that the reporters cannot protect their sources in this case because the leak was criminal, so there is no doubt that the leaker has committed a crime.  If it was Rove, the buck has  to stop at the Presidentâs desk.  He is responsible for Rove' s actions regardless of the level of information he received on this;  you can delegate authority, you cannot delegate responsibility.  I find it hard to believe that it was Rove, but if it was, it IS a big deal, and a President could fall over it.</p>
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		<title>By: jwb</title>
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		<dc:creator>jwb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2005 05:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why the skepticism?  G. H. W. Bush dumped Rove for leaking a story to Novak in &#039;92.  We know Rove does these kinds of things, and we also know that the investigation would have ended long ago unless there was a strong probability of prosecution of a major crime.

My theory: Rove was the source or was otherwise highly involved in the incident, which did not constitute a crime, but during the course of the investigation either perjured himself, induced someone else to perjure themselves, or otherwise obstructed justice.  Hello White House?  It&#039;s Nixon calling.  He wants his M.O. back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why the skepticism?  G. H. W. Bush dumped Rove for leaking a story to Novak in '92.  We know Rove does these kinds of things, and we also know that the investigation would have ended long ago unless there was a strong probability of prosecution of a major crime.</p>
<p>My theory: Rove was the source or was otherwise highly involved in the incident, which did not constitute a crime, but during the course of the investigation either perjured himself, induced someone else to perjure themselves, or otherwise obstructed justice.  Hello White House?  It's Nixon calling.  He wants his M.O. back.</p>
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		<title>By: sgt fluffy</title>
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		<dc:creator>sgt fluffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2005 01:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Courage Paul, Courage</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Courage Paul, Courage</p>
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