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	<title>Comments on: MSNBC Rebranding as Liberal News Network</title>
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		<title>By: Grewgills</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/msnbc_officially_liberal_news_network/comment-page-1/#comment-219735</link>
		<dc:creator>Grewgills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I wanted to see if he would either shut-up or make a point. Since he did neither,I decided it was time to finally delete the channel for good.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Yet countless pointless rants by Hannity and O&#039;Reilly don&#039;t motivate you to delete Fox&quot;News&quot; from your remote.  Why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I wanted to see if he would either shut-up or make a point. Since he did neither,I decided it was time to finally delete the channel for good.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yet countless pointless rants by Hannity and O'Reilly don't motivate you to delete Fox"News" from your remote.  Why?</p>
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		<title>By: floyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 05:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is just so sad that I will miss this wonderful tranformartion,since I watched Mr. Olberman&#039;s rant today with morbid curiosity. I wanted to see if he would either shut-up or make a point. Since he did neither,I decided it was time to finally delete the channel for good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is just so sad that I will miss this wonderful tranformartion,since I watched Mr. Olberman's rant today with morbid curiosity. I wanted to see if he would either shut-up or make a point. Since he did neither,I decided it was time to finally delete the channel for good.</p>
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		<title>By: Bandit</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/msnbc_officially_liberal_news_network/comment-page-1/#comment-218952</link>
		<dc:creator>Bandit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 23:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’d rather see them move Ellen DeGeneres into prime time. At least she’s funny.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

See there are a lot  more crazy people out there than you thought - what else could explain anyone thinking Ellen Degeneres is funny?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I&rsquo;d rather see them move Ellen DeGeneres into prime time. At least she&rsquo;s funny.</p></blockquote>
<p>See there are a lot  more crazy people out there than you thought - what else could explain anyone thinking Ellen Degeneres is funny?</p>
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		<title>By: Lurking Observer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lurking Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect it will depend on the brand of leftism that is being purveyed. 

The Left and the Right in this country are asymmetrical. Among conservatives, there are social conservatives, fiscal conservatives, neo-cons, and paleo-cons. 

Among the Left (as opposed to merely liberal), there are economic Leftists (who would like to see confiscatory tax levels and greater redistribution), libertarian Leftists (many of whom are opposed to drug laws), social Leftists (anti-gun, pro-gay marriage), pacifist Leftists (either opposing all use of force or American use of force) to name but a few. This is aside from the anti-Bush/anti-Republican types. 

Rosie O&#039;Donnell and Olbermann will probably have difficulties in a Democratic administration, b/c they fall primarily into that last category. 

But a frankly economic Leftist perspective might well find a home---especially ironic given CNBC&#039;s programming. Imagine Robert Reich hosting a program, or whoever has inherited the mantle of Michael Harrington. 

Similarly, it would be interesting to try airing a television equivalent of Pacifica Radio. 

Of course, as Dave Schuler implies, they&#039;d have to be hard-core &lt;em&gt;Left&lt;/em&gt;, and not merely liberal, lest they cannibalize among the non-Fox network numbers....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect it will depend on the brand of leftism that is being purveyed. </p>
<p>The Left and the Right in this country are asymmetrical. Among conservatives, there are social conservatives, fiscal conservatives, neo-cons, and paleo-cons. </p>
<p>Among the Left (as opposed to merely liberal), there are economic Leftists (who would like to see confiscatory tax levels and greater redistribution), libertarian Leftists (many of whom are opposed to drug laws), social Leftists (anti-gun, pro-gay marriage), pacifist Leftists (either opposing all use of force or American use of force) to name but a few. This is aside from the anti-Bush/anti-Republican types. </p>
<p>Rosie O'Donnell and Olbermann will probably have difficulties in a Democratic administration, b/c they fall primarily into that last category. </p>
<p>But a frankly economic Leftist perspective might well find a home---especially ironic given CNBC's programming. Imagine Robert Reich hosting a program, or whoever has inherited the mantle of Michael Harrington. </p>
<p>Similarly, it would be interesting to try airing a television equivalent of Pacifica Radio. </p>
<p>Of course, as Dave Schuler implies, they'd have to be hard-core <em>Left</em>, and not merely liberal, lest they cannibalize among the non-Fox network numbers....</p>
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		<title>By: steve real</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve real</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You mean, the way FoxNews crashed and burned after Bush became president in 2001?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

With the exception of O&#039;Reilly, Fox has never been about angry rants but rather an anti-elite media populism.  That was a very distinct niche with no competition that appealed to a broad swathe of middle America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You mean, the way FoxNews crashed and burned after Bush became president in 2001?</p></blockquote>
<p>With the exception of O'Reilly, Fox has never been about angry rants but rather an anti-elite media populism.  That was a very distinct niche with no competition that appealed to a broad swathe of middle America.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick T. McGuire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick T. McGuire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reminds me of a guy I worked with many years ago. Because of a bad pricing policy, he was losing money on every unit of inventory that he sold. When asked what he was going to do to start generating a profit, he replid &quot;increase sales volume&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of a guy I worked with many years ago. Because of a bad pricing policy, he was losing money on every unit of inventory that he sold. When asked what he was going to do to start generating a profit, he replid "increase sales volume".</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Will there still be a market for liberal rants if, say, Hillary Clinton is elected president?&lt;/em&gt;

Hm.  You mean, the way FoxNews crashed and burned after Bush became president in 2001?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Will there still be a market for liberal rants if, say, Hillary Clinton is elected president?</em></p>
<p>Hm.  You mean, the way FoxNews crashed and burned after Bush became president in 2001?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Schuler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still, it will be fascinating to see the targeted advertising.  What do angry progressives buy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still, it will be fascinating to see the targeted advertising.  What do angry progressives buy?</p>
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		<title>By: TheHat</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheHat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somebody once said that it was a very bad idea to be seeking a greater market share of a declining industry. That appears to be MSNBCs position. I doubt that it will be successful. I am inclined to chuckle at their stupidity and wish them &#039;no luck at all&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somebody once said that it was a very bad idea to be seeking a greater market share of a declining industry. That appears to be MSNBCs position. I doubt that it will be successful. I am inclined to chuckle at their stupidity and wish them 'no luck at all'.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Schuler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think they&#039;re trying to capitalize on Air America&#039;s enormous success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they're trying to capitalize on Air America's enormous success.</p>
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