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	<title>Comments on: Mullen: We &#8216;Will Have to Deal with Iran in the Very Near Future&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice responses.  They all feed the beast to some degree, however. Is Ron Paul the only candidate that  recognizes the fact that MODERN war is impossible without the tool of deficit financing and the supporting &quot;money from nothing&quot; role, that of the infamous USD ?

The answers are simpler than many think. Strike the root.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice responses.  They all feed the beast to some degree, however. Is Ron Paul the only candidate that  recognizes the fact that MODERN war is impossible without the tool of deficit financing and the supporting "money from nothing" role, that of the infamous USD ?</p>
<p>The answers are simpler than many think. Strike the root.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And exactly who destabilized Iraq? - we did.
And who destabilized southern Lebanon by bombing sewage plants, electrification plants and people? - Israel did(with our bombs and planes).

We have an out of control,violent government that wraps itself in the flag in an attempt to obscure the wrongdoing that&#039;s being done.

It really has become disturbing to watch these compromised,idiotic paid off stooges for Israel wreck this nation and others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And exactly who destabilized Iraq? - we did.<br />
And who destabilized southern Lebanon by bombing sewage plants, electrification plants and people? - Israel did(with our bombs and planes).</p>
<p>We have an out of control,violent government that wraps itself in the flag in an attempt to obscure the wrongdoing that's being done.</p>
<p>It really has become disturbing to watch these compromised,idiotic paid off stooges for Israel wreck this nation and others.</p>
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		<title>By: Don&#8217;t You Know I Got the Bully Boys Out . . . &#167; Unqualified Offerings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don&#8217;t You Know I Got the Bully Boys Out . . . &#167; Unqualified Offerings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 12:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] backed up by force, or that at the very least putting a little fright into the Iranian leadership (maintaining strategic ambiguity) is unambiguously a good idea. Well, it doesn&#8217;t and it [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] backed up by force, or that at the very least putting a little fright into the Iranian leadership (maintaining strategic ambiguity) is unambiguously a good idea. Well, it doesn&#8217;t and it [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BernardFinel.com &#187; Iran War Talk</title>
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		<dc:creator>BernardFinel.com &#187; Iran War Talk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] backed up by force, or that at the very least putting a little fright into the Iranian leadership (maintaining strategic ambiguity) is unambiguously a good idea.  Well, it doesn’t and it [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] backed up by force, or that at the very least putting a little fright into the Iranian leadership (maintaining strategic ambiguity) is unambiguously a good idea.  Well, it doesn&rsquo;t and it [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Flash Point Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Leaving Options on the Table</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Flash Point Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Leaving Options on the Table</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] backed up by force, or that at the very least putting a little fright into the Iranian leadership (maintaining strategic ambiguity) is unambiguously a good idea.  Well, it doesn&#8217;t and it [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] backed up by force, or that at the very least putting a little fright into the Iranian leadership (maintaining strategic ambiguity) is unambiguously a good idea.  Well, it doesn&#8217;t and it [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you read closely, you may notice that what Mullen is suggesting... correctly, I may add... is that iraq&#039;s involvement is the reason we&#039;ve still got problems in Iraq.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you read closely, you may notice that what Mullen is suggesting... correctly, I may add... is that iraq's involvement is the reason we've still got problems in Iraq.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zelsdorf - good call - let&#039;s deal with this issue like we did w/ Iraq - b/c that worked out so well. You probably still think Iraq was connected to 9/11.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zelsdorf - good call - let's deal with this issue like we did w/ Iraq - b/c that worked out so well. You probably still think Iraq was connected to 9/11.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, see Kevin Drum:

&lt;em&gt;Mullen said the U.S. government will not take any option off the table in responding to the Iranian threat. But speaking to reporters today, Mullen &lt;strong&gt;repeatedly made clear that he preferred dealing with the problem through diplomatic or financial pressure &lt;/strong&gt;rather than a military strike.&lt;/em&gt;

Why does Adm. Mullen hate America?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, see Kevin Drum:</p>
<p><em>Mullen said the U.S. government will not take any option off the table in responding to the Iranian threat. But speaking to reporters today, Mullen <strong>repeatedly made clear that he preferred dealing with the problem through diplomatic or financial pressure </strong>rather than a military strike.</em></p>
<p>Why does Adm. Mullen hate America?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Schuler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW the influence between Iran and Iraq goes both ways and right now Iraq is probably as dangerous to Iran as it is to us.  More so, maybe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW the influence between Iran and Iraq goes both ways and right now Iraq is probably as dangerous to Iran as it is to us.  More so, maybe.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Schuler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
They have interests, we have interests. We need to make clear what&#039;s truly unacceptable (nuking Israel) and cut some slack on what&#039;s inevitable (Iranian influence in its Shiite neighbor &amp; onetime enemy).
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I couldn&#039;t agree with you more, Anderson.  It&#039;s what I&#039;ve been saying for years.

Stability is not an absolute good; it&#039;s a conditional good.  That&#039;s one of the things that was forcibly impressed on us seven years ago.  The stability then was unacceptable to us.

Now we&#039;re stuck with the instability we helped create.  Our creating instability isn&#039;t anything new&#8212;we&#039;ve been doing it for more than 60 years.  After all, Germany&#039;s control of France and the Netherlands was pretty darned stable until we stuck our noses into things.

Like it or not Iran is the regional superpower in the Middle East.  We should be dealing with them and by &#147;dealing&#148; I mean negotiating.  As I see it there are two big challenges.  The first item on the agenda should be mutual acknowledgement of the legitimacy of the other&#039;s interests in the region.  It&#039;s pretty darned hard to construct a basis for negotations without it.

The second is that either we need to convince Iran that our notion off a good sort of stability for the region and theirs are not incompatible or else we&#039;ve got to identify the nexus of issues on which stability is mutually agreed as a good thing.</description>
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They have interests, we have interests. We need to make clear what's truly unacceptable (nuking Israel) and cut some slack on what's inevitable (Iranian influence in its Shiite neighbor &amp; onetime enemy).
</p></blockquote>
<p>I couldn't agree with you more, Anderson.  It's what I've been saying for years.</p>
<p>Stability is not an absolute good; it's a conditional good.  That's one of the things that was forcibly impressed on us seven years ago.  The stability then was unacceptable to us.</p>
<p>Now we're stuck with the instability we helped create.  Our creating instability isn't anything new&mdash;we've been doing it for more than 60 years.  After all, Germany's control of France and the Netherlands was pretty darned stable until we stuck our noses into things.</p>
<p>Like it or not Iran is the regional superpower in the Middle East.  We should be dealing with them and by &#8220;dealing&#8221; I mean negotiating.  As I see it there are two big challenges.  The first item on the agenda should be mutual acknowledgement of the legitimacy of the other's interests in the region.  It's pretty darned hard to construct a basis for negotations without it.</p>
<p>The second is that either we need to convince Iran that our notion off a good sort of stability for the region and theirs are not incompatible or else we've got to identify the nexus of issues on which stability is mutually agreed as a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, folks, &quot;deal with&quot; is quite vague, and certainly includes negotiation and, um, &quot;deals.&quot;

And in that sense, Mullen is not only correct, he&#039;s also saying what the Dems have been saying:  we can&#039;t isolate Iran, we can&#039;t refuse to talk to them.  They have interests, we have interests.  We need to make clear what&#039;s truly unacceptable (nuking Israel) and cut some slack on what&#039;s inevitable (Iranian influence in its Shiite neighbor &amp; onetime enemy).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, folks, "deal with" is quite vague, and certainly includes negotiation and, um, "deals."</p>
<p>And in that sense, Mullen is not only correct, he's also saying what the Dems have been saying:  we can't isolate Iran, we can't refuse to talk to them.  They have interests, we have interests.  We need to make clear what's truly unacceptable (nuking Israel) and cut some slack on what's inevitable (Iranian influence in its Shiite neighbor &amp; onetime enemy).</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Jacobs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Jacobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While Iran might destabilize areas of the world, the biggest, by far, destabilizing influence in the middle east, is the United States in Iraq.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While Iran might destabilize areas of the world, the biggest, by far, destabilizing influence in the middle east, is the United States in Iraq.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Knapp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Knapp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 03:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Recent operations in Southern Iraq, recent combat operations in Southern Iraq in Basra highlighted yet again Iran’s activities in ways that very specifically pointed to activities which, in fact, resulted in the deaths of coalition soldiers.&lt;/blockquote&gt;This part of Mullen&#039;s speech is entirely accurate.  After all, Iran is a huge supporter of the Maliki administration and his governing coalition.

Of course, so are we...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Recent operations in Southern Iraq, recent combat operations in Southern Iraq in Basra highlighted yet again Iran&rsquo;s activities in ways that very specifically pointed to activities which, in fact, resulted in the deaths of coalition soldiers.</p></blockquote>
<p>This part of Mullen's speech is entirely accurate.  After all, Iran is a huge supporter of the Maliki administration and his governing coalition.</p>
<p>Of course, so are we...</p>
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		<title>By: KJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>KJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember the liberal motto.. &#039;Never deal with a problem today that you can find a way to raise taxes and manage tomorrow&#039;.

Elect HRC and we will deserve what we get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember the liberal motto.. 'Never deal with a problem today that you can find a way to raise taxes and manage tomorrow'.</p>
<p>Elect HRC and we will deserve what we get.</p>
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		<title>By: kenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Iran routinely pushes its way into more and more realms of instability.&quot;

yes how dare iran get involved in the country next to them when it&#039;s been reduced to a bloody shambles by the USA. 

No doubt his next argument is how they&#039;ve bought yellowcake from africa........

And then how the US military doesn&#039;t torture people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Iran routinely pushes its way into more and more realms of instability."</p>
<p>yes how dare iran get involved in the country next to them when it's been reduced to a bloody shambles by the USA. </p>
<p>No doubt his next argument is how they've bought yellowcake from africa........</p>
<p>And then how the US military doesn't torture people.</p>
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