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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/murtha_earmark_scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-981613</link>
		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 22:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;with what the Dmeocrats have been doing? &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Guess the number of republicans who are mixed up in the Murtha business eluded you. Now there is a shocker...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>with what the Dmeocrats have been doing? </p></blockquote>
<p>Guess the number of republicans who are mixed up in the Murtha business eluded you. Now there is a shocker...</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Palin ended up paying added taxes under a new definition of the matter setup by state officials. It&#039;s also noteworthy that the Palins didn&#039;t prepare their own taxes. She&#039;s paid the difference.

Steele, meanwhile had arranged for his 2006 Senate campaign to pay a defunct company run by his sister for services that were never performed, his finance chairman from that campaign has told federal prosecutors.  The payment was a payment in advance for catering(the business involved was a catering firm) and the business went belly before the party occurred. I don&#039;t even see any evidence taht the check was ever cashed/deposited.

Stuff happens, Anjin.  You&#039;re really putting this on par with what the Dmeocrats have been doing? You&#039;re more desperate than I figured.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Palin ended up paying added taxes under a new definition of the matter setup by state officials. It's also noteworthy that the Palins didn't prepare their own taxes. She's paid the difference.</p>
<p>Steele, meanwhile had arranged for his 2006 Senate campaign to pay a defunct company run by his sister for services that were never performed, his finance chairman from that campaign has told federal prosecutors.  The payment was a payment in advance for catering(the business involved was a catering firm) and the business went belly before the party occurred. I don't even see any evidence taht the check was ever cashed/deposited.</p>
<p>Stuff happens, Anjin.  You're really putting this on par with what the Dmeocrats have been doing? You're more desperate than I figured.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/murtha_earmark_scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-980716</link>
		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 06:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;given the number of democrats under the ethics and criminal clouds currently&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Noteworthy that Palin&#039;s cheating on taxes or the Michael Steele scandal outrage you not at all.

Party before country, eh bitsy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>given the number of democrats under the ethics and criminal clouds currently</p></blockquote>
<p>Noteworthy that Palin's cheating on taxes or the Michael Steele scandal outrage you not at all.</p>
<p>Party before country, eh bitsy?</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/murtha_earmark_scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-980703</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 04:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Really Bit, you make it too easy. I am forced to ask you, Did the Republicans ignore said pressure for the previous 12 yrs? Or did they just not get any pressure from their (presumably conservative) constituents?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

and specifically, what pressure is that?  What pressure was there, prior to 2006&#039;s midterms for that to occur?  

given the number of democrats under the ethics and criminal clouds currently, I&#039;d advise sparing us the mantra of how the democrats are acting in the best interests of anyone but themselves in this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Really Bit, you make it too easy. I am forced to ask you, Did the Republicans ignore said pressure for the previous 12 yrs? Or did they just not get any pressure from their (presumably conservative) constituents?</p></blockquote>
<p>and specifically, what pressure is that?  What pressure was there, prior to 2006's midterms for that to occur?  </p>
<p>given the number of democrats under the ethics and criminal clouds currently, I'd advise sparing us the mantra of how the democrats are acting in the best interests of anyone but themselves in this.</p>
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		<title>By: tom p</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 22:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This obviously would be illegal for PMA Group to do, but what isn&#039;t know yet, is whether any of the targets of PMA Group knew this was going on.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Neo, I suspect they didn&#039;t care enuf to look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This obviously would be illegal for PMA Group to do, but what isn't know yet, is whether any of the targets of PMA Group knew this was going on.</p></blockquote>
<p>Neo, I suspect they didn't care enuf to look.</p>
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		<title>By: tom p</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 22:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;That said, you don&#039;t really think the Democrats would have done this without serios pressure, now do you?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Really Bit, you make it too easy. I am forced to ask you, Did the Republicans ignore said pressure for the previous 12 yrs? Or did they just not get any pressure from their (presumably conservative) constituents?

Either way you go, Republicans are either so corrupt they won&#039;t bend to pressure, or their constituents are so corrupt (or ignorant) they don&#039;t care. Which is it?

Tell you what, I&#039;ll give you an out, Credit where credit is due:&lt;blockquote&gt;And earmark accountability rules imposed by the Democrats in 2007 make it possible to see how extensively PMA worked the Hill for its clients.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You can say it Bit... the Dems did a good thing (under pressure if you like), but they did it, you can say it,... but you won&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That said, you don't really think the Democrats would have done this without serios pressure, now do you?</p></blockquote>
<p>Really Bit, you make it too easy. I am forced to ask you, Did the Republicans ignore said pressure for the previous 12 yrs? Or did they just not get any pressure from their (presumably conservative) constituents?</p>
<p>Either way you go, Republicans are either so corrupt they won't bend to pressure, or their constituents are so corrupt (or ignorant) they don't care. Which is it?</p>
<p>Tell you what, I'll give you an out, Credit where credit is due:<br />
<blockquote>And earmark accountability rules imposed by the Democrats in 2007 make it possible to see how extensively PMA worked the Hill for its clients.</p></blockquote>
<p>You can say it Bit... the Dems did a good thing (under pressure if you like), but they did it, you can say it,... but you won't.</p>
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		<title>By: Neo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the other side of the earmarks ..

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/13/AR2009021302746.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Marvin Hoffman is listed&lt;/a&gt; in campaign finance records as one of the many lobbyists with the powerful PMA Group donating money to lawmakers. But Hoffman is a soon-to-retire information technology manager in Marina del Rey, Calif., who has never heard of the Arlington lobbying firm or the Indiana congressman to whom he supposedly gave $2,000.

&quot;It&#039;s alarming that someone is stealing my identity somewhere,&quot; Hoffman, 75, said in an interview. &quot;I&#039;ve never heard of this company.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This obviously would be illegal for PMA Group to do, but what isn&#039;t know yet, is whether any of the targets of PMA Group knew this was going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the other side of the earmarks ..</p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/13/AR2009021302746.html" rel="nofollow">Marvin Hoffman is listed</a> in campaign finance records as one of the many lobbyists with the powerful PMA Group donating money to lawmakers. But Hoffman is a soon-to-retire information technology manager in Marina del Rey, Calif., who has never heard of the Arlington lobbying firm or the Indiana congressman to whom he supposedly gave $2,000.</p>
<p>"It's alarming that someone is stealing my identity somewhere," Hoffman, 75, said in an interview. "I've never heard of this company."</p></blockquote>
<p>This obviously would be illegal for PMA Group to do, but what isn't know yet, is whether any of the targets of PMA Group knew this was going on.</p>
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		<title>By: Nightly Ramble:The &#8216;Like a freight train;&#8217; edition &#124; BitsBlog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nightly Ramble:The &#8216;Like a freight train;&#8217; edition &#124; BitsBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Scandal: Speaking of Murtha, I see by way of James Joyner, today, that there&#8217;s an earmark scandal brewing with his name on it: A major earmark scandal, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Scandal: Speaking of Murtha, I see by way of James Joyner, today, that there&#8217;s an earmark scandal brewing with his name on it: A major earmark scandal, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ll get no argument from me, Charles. 
But I wonder if such an event would change the voting patterns in places like Mutha&#039;s district, for example?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You'll get no argument from me, Charles.<br />
But I wonder if such an event would change the voting patterns in places like Mutha's district, for example?</p>
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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seeing 104 Congressional criminals arrested and run out of town on a rail would go a long way towards restoring my faith in our long term prospects as a representative democracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seeing 104 Congressional criminals arrested and run out of town on a rail would go a long way towards restoring my faith in our long term prospects as a representative democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: uh-oh - Nearly One-Forth of the House got donations from corrupt firm connected to Murtha &#124; Political Byline</title>
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		<dc:creator>uh-oh - Nearly One-Forth of the House got donations from corrupt firm connected to Murtha &#124; Political Byline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Swamp, NPR, Outside The Beltway, The Washington Independent, Liberty Street, Right Wing Nut House, Betsy&#8217;s Page, Hot Air, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Swamp, NPR, Outside The Beltway, The Washington Independent, Liberty Street, Right Wing Nut House, Betsy&#8217;s Page, Hot Air, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Verdon</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/murtha_earmark_scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-980339</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Verdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But the stimulus plan...why all that money will go exactly where it needs to go to produce the biggest gains for the economy.  Because these men in Congress are noble and just and good.  All praise Obama.

No you&#039;ll excuse me I have to fall down laughing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the stimulus plan...why all that money will go exactly where it needs to go to produce the biggest gains for the economy.  Because these men in Congress are noble and just and good.  All praise Obama.</p>
<p>No you'll excuse me I have to fall down laughing.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Did you miss this change bit Bit?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nope.
That said, you don&#039;t really think the Democrats would have done this without serios pressure, now do you?

&lt;blockquote&gt;Damn bit, you have us dead to rights. Obama&#039;s inability to go back in time and change things that happened before he was President proves him to be a fraud.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, come. Look, anjin....We were told that the Dmeocrats would be the agents of positive change. Given the number of Democrats now under investigation for misdeeds in execution of power and the illegal efforts to obtain it (campaign funding scandals), it appears we&#039;ve elected the foxes to bring serious change to the chicken coup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Did you miss this change bit Bit?</p></blockquote>
<p>Nope.<br />
That said, you don't really think the Democrats would have done this without serios pressure, now do you?</p>
<blockquote><p>Damn bit, you have us dead to rights. Obama's inability to go back in time and change things that happened before he was President proves him to be a fraud.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, come. Look, anjin....We were told that the Dmeocrats would be the agents of positive change. Given the number of Democrats now under investigation for misdeeds in execution of power and the illegal efforts to obtain it (campaign funding scandals), it appears we've elected the foxes to bring serious change to the chicken coup.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Change we can believe in.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Damn bit, you have us dead to rights. Obama&#039;s inability to go back in time and change things that happened before he was President proves him to be a fraud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Change we can believe in.</p></blockquote>
<p>Damn bit, you have us dead to rights. Obama's inability to go back in time and change things that happened before he was President proves him to be a fraud.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This one will be interesting.

While we are on this sort ofthing, will we ever be discussion Palin&#039;s tax problems or the Michael Steele scandal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This one will be interesting.</p>
<p>While we are on this sort ofthing, will we ever be discussion Palin's tax problems or the Michael Steele scandal?</p>
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