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	<title>Comments on: Nancy Pelosi&#8217;s Syria Head Scarf Controversy</title>
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		<title>By: floyd</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/nancy_pelosis_syria_head_scarf_controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-119291</link>
		<dc:creator>floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 23:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The right is a spent force in America&quot;...Tano

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**Keep thinking that way... That&#039;s right, the left has won over America! You can see the light at the end of the tunnel!!....WOO!!WOO!! CHOOO!!!CHOOO!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"The right is a spent force in America"...Tano</p>
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<p>**Keep thinking that way... That's right, the left has won over America! You can see the light at the end of the tunnel!!....WOO!!WOO!! CHOOO!!!CHOOO!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Anjin-San</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anjin-San</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 17:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bains,

You must never get bored, you love the sound of your voice so much. At any rate, you do not seem to understand my argument, and I do not have time to explain it to you in simpler terms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bains,</p>
<p>You must never get bored, you love the sound of your voice so much. At any rate, you do not seem to understand my argument, and I do not have time to explain it to you in simpler terms.</p>
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		<title>By: DL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 12:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is simply an end run around the presidency by the left. They have decided to set up a shadow presidency and deal with our enemies as if they were in the oval office. They will continue doing this according to Tom Lanktos. Perhaps the Logan act needs to be invoked and if need be, a constitutional/Supreme Court resolution. I&#039;m not at all in doubt that the Supreme Court will not take lightly the interference of a branch of government by another -lest it also happen to them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is simply an end run around the presidency by the left. They have decided to set up a shadow presidency and deal with our enemies as if they were in the oval office. They will continue doing this according to Tom Lanktos. Perhaps the Logan act needs to be invoked and if need be, a constitutional/Supreme Court resolution. I'm not at all in doubt that the Supreme Court will not take lightly the interference of a branch of government by another -lest it also happen to them!</p>
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		<title>By: bains</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/nancy_pelosis_syria_head_scarf_controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-119050</link>
		<dc:creator>bains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 08:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another lame effort anji-san...  Speaker of the House is third in the worst case scenario line of succession.  It is a quirk of the constitution and does not represent any kind of mandate that you wish to imply.  The Speaker is elected by a majority from within majority party of the House of Representatives. (doing the math, that&#039;s 51% of 51%)  Up until that catastrophic event, the Speaker has no constitutional powers over foreign affairs - the Speaker is merely a vote in the collective congressional body.  A long way of saying that while Pelosi may direct the lower house of Congress, well, she is just Speaker for one half of one third of our government.  As much as you may dislike it, SecState Rice still has far more authority regarding international affairs.

And as I pointed out in my original comment, this is all secondary.  Pelosi showed more respect towards a misogynist sub-culture of an antagonistic nation than she shows to sub-cultures within her own nation.  Bang your pots all you want, that&#039;s an impression you not change...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another lame effort anji-san...  Speaker of the House is third in the worst case scenario line of succession.  It is a quirk of the constitution and does not represent any kind of mandate that you wish to imply.  The Speaker is elected by a majority from within majority party of the House of Representatives. (doing the math, that's 51% of 51%)  Up until that catastrophic event, the Speaker has no constitutional powers over foreign affairs - the Speaker is merely a vote in the collective congressional body.  A long way of saying that while Pelosi may direct the lower house of Congress, well, she is just Speaker for one half of one third of our government.  As much as you may dislike it, SecState Rice still has far more authority regarding international affairs.</p>
<p>And as I pointed out in my original comment, this is all secondary.  Pelosi showed more respect towards a misogynist sub-culture of an antagonistic nation than she shows to sub-cultures within her own nation.  Bang your pots all you want, that's an impression you not change...</p>
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		<title>By: bains</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/nancy_pelosis_syria_head_scarf_controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-119049</link>
		<dc:creator>bains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 07:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>beautiful Tano...&lt;blockquote&gt;Perhaps this is why the right is bleeding support...&lt;/blockquote&gt; Undoubtedly, but not for reasons the left, and the MSM (apologies for the redundancy) believe.   &lt;blockquote&gt;...is that &lt;strike&gt;Dems&lt;/strike&gt; GOP no longer care how their political opponents react.&lt;/blockquote&gt;  So true, and so unintentionally insightful.  The GOP lost congress because they ignored what what the opposition said - the constituency they needed to hold was primarily those who believed a strong America  meant politicians eschewing traditional political and personal proclivities, yet did not exclude the hard-core base who wanted campaign pledges adhered to.  Ted Stevens, John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Arlene Specter and Bill Frist did as much damage to the GOP as did Mark Foley and Randy Cunningham - as did Prez Bush&#039;s seeming indifference to border security and lackadaisical approach to the war against jihadism.  They, to borrow your term Tano, did not care how others would react.  They sold out on espoused principle.

Caring not for the concerns of those who you need to get elected is not the way to stay elected.  Just as with the past several election cycles, both parties need the middle.  While you apparently approve of the Dems disregard for their &#039;opponents concern&#039;, swinging as far left as you would have will likely see your party suffer the same effects you relished in 2006.  But perhaps you Dems can learn what the Repubs forgot - namely not insulting my intelligence by pretending what you are proposing is for anything other than your self-aggrandizement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>beautiful Tano...<br />
<blockquote>Perhaps this is why the right is bleeding support...</p></blockquote>
<p> Undoubtedly, but not for reasons the left, and the MSM (apologies for the redundancy) believe.<br />
<blockquote>...is that <strike>Dems</strike> GOP no longer care how their political opponents react.</p></blockquote>
<p>  So true, and so unintentionally insightful.  The GOP lost congress because they ignored what what the opposition said - the constituency they needed to hold was primarily those who believed a strong America  meant politicians eschewing traditional political and personal proclivities, yet did not exclude the hard-core base who wanted campaign pledges adhered to.  Ted Stevens, John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Arlene Specter and Bill Frist did as much damage to the GOP as did Mark Foley and Randy Cunningham - as did Prez Bush's seeming indifference to border security and lackadaisical approach to the war against jihadism.  They, to borrow your term Tano, did not care how others would react.  They sold out on espoused principle.</p>
<p>Caring not for the concerns of those who you need to get elected is not the way to stay elected.  Just as with the past several election cycles, both parties need the middle.  While you apparently approve of the Dems disregard for their 'opponents concern', swinging as far left as you would have will likely see your party suffer the same effects you relished in 2006.  But perhaps you Dems can learn what the Repubs forgot - namely not insulting my intelligence by pretending what you are proposing is for anything other than your self-aggrandizement.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 07:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;woman others however wonder why the heir-apparent champion of woman’s rights so willingly subjugates herself to a misogynist sub-culture.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Gosh, I hope that&#039;s not the best you can do.

Pelosi is the #3 person in the US Government. That means that she has to do business with people she may not like or agree with. To suggest that she refuse to deal with Muslim nations because she may not care for the way to treat women is beyond simple. There are a billion Muslimss in the world.

You can also make a case that women in Syria might look at this very senior US official who is also a woman and get some ideas.

Mr. Bush, who has killed so many thousands in Iraq in the name of freedom, does business in with the brutal communist tyrants in China every day. Welcome to the real world bud.

Are there any other straws you care to grasp in your effort to attack the Speaker?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>woman others however wonder why the heir-apparent champion of woman&rsquo;s rights so willingly subjugates herself to a misogynist sub-culture.
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<p>Gosh, I hope that's not the best you can do.</p>
<p>Pelosi is the #3 person in the US Government. That means that she has to do business with people she may not like or agree with. To suggest that she refuse to deal with Muslim nations because she may not care for the way to treat women is beyond simple. There are a billion Muslimss in the world.</p>
<p>You can also make a case that women in Syria might look at this very senior US official who is also a woman and get some ideas.</p>
<p>Mr. Bush, who has killed so many thousands in Iraq in the name of freedom, does business in with the brutal communist tyrants in China every day. Welcome to the real world bud.</p>
<p>Are there any other straws you care to grasp in your effort to attack the Speaker?</p>
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		<title>By: Tano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 06:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As a side note, it doesn’t speak highly of Pelosi’s intellect that she wouldn’t recognize how her political opponents would use these images.&quot;

What I think you fail to realize is that Dems no longer care how their political opponents react. They have been hit with everything the right can throw at them, and they now have taken the Congress. And may well soon take the WH. The right is a spent force in America. To quote a distinguished American &quot;bring it on&quot;.

&quot;And insinuating that your opposition is both ignorant and hypocritical is not going to win you any converts.&quot;

Good point. Perhaps this is why the right is bleeding support, and winning no new converts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"As a side note, it doesn&rsquo;t speak highly of Pelosi&rsquo;s intellect that she wouldn&rsquo;t recognize how her political opponents would use these images."</p>
<p>What I think you fail to realize is that Dems no longer care how their political opponents react. They have been hit with everything the right can throw at them, and they now have taken the Congress. And may well soon take the WH. The right is a spent force in America. To quote a distinguished American "bring it on".</p>
<p>"And insinuating that your opposition is both ignorant and hypocritical is not going to win you any converts."</p>
<p>Good point. Perhaps this is why the right is bleeding support, and winning no new converts.</p>
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		<title>By: bains</title>
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		<dc:creator>bains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 06:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not very clever anjin-san.  You may want to believe that the reactions to the specific photos prove your preconceptions that those who wonder why in heck the likely champion of the newly resurrected ERA are ignorant and hypocritical.  Many others however wonder why the heir-apparent champion of woman&#039;s rights so  willingly subjugates herself to a misogynist sub-culture.

And insinuating that your opposition is both ignorant and hypocritical is not going to win you any converts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not very clever anjin-san.  You may want to believe that the reactions to the specific photos prove your preconceptions that those who wonder why in heck the likely champion of the newly resurrected ERA are ignorant and hypocritical.  Many others however wonder why the heir-apparent champion of woman's rights so  willingly subjugates herself to a misogynist sub-culture.</p>
<p>And insinuating that your opposition is both ignorant and hypocritical is not going to win you any converts.</p>
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		<title>By: bob in fl</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob in fl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 06:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMHO, how else can you expect Members of Congress to discover facts pertaining to the countries they visit? Are they supposed to take the word of the Executive Branch on faith, especially this one? Do you suppose that maybe Members of Congress also have the brains to try determine the facts of the issues? Do you really think they will take every thing Assad says as Gospel truth?

Give me a break. At this point, I don&#039;t see how they can do any more damage than the White House has. One of them may well have been to withdraw America&#039;s Ambassador to Syria.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMHO, how else can you expect Members of Congress to discover facts pertaining to the countries they visit? Are they supposed to take the word of the Executive Branch on faith, especially this one? Do you suppose that maybe Members of Congress also have the brains to try determine the facts of the issues? Do you really think they will take every thing Assad says as Gospel truth?</p>
<p>Give me a break. At this point, I don't see how they can do any more damage than the White House has. One of them may well have been to withdraw America's Ambassador to Syria.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 04:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bains,

Are you referring to the use of the images by Pelosi&#039;s political enemies to show that they are ignorant AND hypocritical?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bains,</p>
<p>Are you referring to the use of the images by Pelosi's political enemies to show that they are ignorant AND hypocritical?</p>
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		<title>By: susie</title>
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		<dc:creator>susie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 02:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Head Scarf - ... it&#039;s not logical, it&#039;s an emotional reaction.

The problem with the head scarf is that it comes in the same week in which a British marine being held captive by Iranians was subjected to wearing the hijab. The wearing of the hijab has become a political statement.

I wish Nancy Pelosi, as a Catholic, had reached into her closet and pulled out a mantilla - after all she was visiting the Shrine of St. John the Baptist in the week between Palm Sunday and Easter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Head Scarf - ... it's not logical, it's an emotional reaction.</p>
<p>The problem with the head scarf is that it comes in the same week in which a British marine being held captive by Iranians was subjected to wearing the hijab. The wearing of the hijab has become a political statement.</p>
<p>I wish Nancy Pelosi, as a Catholic, had reached into her closet and pulled out a mantilla - after all she was visiting the Shrine of St. John the Baptist in the week between Palm Sunday and Easter.</p>
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		<title>By: John Burgess</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Burgess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 02:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can note one categorical difference between the visits by the Rep. and Pelosi&#039;s party: profile. Would you have even noticed the Rep. visit without the high relief provided by press coverage of Pelosi?

I&#039;ve seen congressmen come to Syria carrying particular messages for the White House. I&#039;ve also seem them come, muddy the waters, and leave a mess that needed to be explained both back to Washington and to the Syrian government and publics.

I&#039;ve also seen Congressmen come into a country, learn something very new to them, and act on the basis of that new knowledge. Sen. Lieberman&#039;s first visit to Saudi Arabia stands out, but I&#039;ve witnessed others.

Of course there are jerks in Congress, like the Senator who stiffed a Damascus merchant for upwards of $5,000 in goods because he &#039;didn&#039;t realize he couldn&#039;t sign his name on his wife&#039;s check&#039;. Damascus seems to be a place where congressional delegations like to kite checks. Good souk, I guess. And the US Embassy there has had to hire trucks (reimbursable by Congress) to haul their loot to airplanes.

The US and Syria still do have diplomatic relations. Pelosi could deliver a message to the Syrian government by paying a call on the Syrian Ambassador. His office is just off Dupont Circle. Instead, she puts on a show.

Let&#039;s not pretend it&#039;s anything but a show, right? Other than eyeballing various leaders (any of whom she could have met in DC or NYC at some point), I don&#039;t see that her visit&#039;s accomplishing much. The Israelis are complaining that she botched the message they asked her to carry to Assad.

I&#039;m watching to see what she does in Saudi Arabia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can note one categorical difference between the visits by the Rep. and Pelosi's party: profile. Would you have even noticed the Rep. visit without the high relief provided by press coverage of Pelosi?</p>
<p>I've seen congressmen come to Syria carrying particular messages for the White House. I've also seem them come, muddy the waters, and leave a mess that needed to be explained both back to Washington and to the Syrian government and publics.</p>
<p>I've also seen Congressmen come into a country, learn something very new to them, and act on the basis of that new knowledge. Sen. Lieberman's first visit to Saudi Arabia stands out, but I've witnessed others.</p>
<p>Of course there are jerks in Congress, like the Senator who stiffed a Damascus merchant for upwards of $5,000 in goods because he 'didn't realize he couldn't sign his name on his wife's check'. Damascus seems to be a place where congressional delegations like to kite checks. Good souk, I guess. And the US Embassy there has had to hire trucks (reimbursable by Congress) to haul their loot to airplanes.</p>
<p>The US and Syria still do have diplomatic relations. Pelosi could deliver a message to the Syrian government by paying a call on the Syrian Ambassador. His office is just off Dupont Circle. Instead, she puts on a show.</p>
<p>Let's not pretend it's anything but a show, right? Other than eyeballing various leaders (any of whom she could have met in DC or NYC at some point), I don't see that her visit's accomplishing much. The Israelis are complaining that she botched the message they asked her to carry to Assad.</p>
<p>I'm watching to see what she does in Saudi Arabia.</p>
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		<title>By: bains</title>
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		<dc:creator>bains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 01:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is off-putting is that the Speaker of the House showed more deference to a sub-culture of a sovereign state openly hostile to her own country, than she shows to the sub-cultures within her own country.

Additionally, as you suggested yet not fully noted, when others donned head-scarves, they were there as representatives of the executive, who last time I checked still has primary authority over foreign affairs.

As a side note, it doesn&#039;t speak highly of Pelosi&#039;s intellect that she wouldn&#039;t recognize how her political opponents would use these images.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is off-putting is that the Speaker of the House showed more deference to a sub-culture of a sovereign state openly hostile to her own country, than she shows to the sub-cultures within her own country.</p>
<p>Additionally, as you suggested yet not fully noted, when others donned head-scarves, they were there as representatives of the executive, who last time I checked still has primary authority over foreign affairs.</p>
<p>As a side note, it doesn't speak highly of Pelosi's intellect that she wouldn't recognize how her political opponents would use these images.</p>
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		<title>By: floyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 01:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forget the ban on foreign travel, let&#039;s ban members of congress from speaking or showing their faces in public! This would save us from being reminded that the American people have become too stupid for self government!
 As for foreign travel, couldn&#039;t we make exceptions for ONE-WAY tickets??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forget the ban on foreign travel, let's ban members of congress from speaking or showing their faces in public! This would save us from being reminded that the American people have become too stupid for self government!<br />
 As for foreign travel, couldn't we make exceptions for ONE-WAY tickets??</p>
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		<title>By: Little Miss Attila</title>
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		<dc:creator>Little Miss Attila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 00:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Nancy Pelosi&#039;s Scarf....&lt;/strong&gt;

It all hinges on whether she was in a house of worship, which I can&#039;t tell from the photo. If she was, it was totally legitimate to cover her head, just as a gentile man would if he went to......</description>
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