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		<title>By: DPGI v.2 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Military not hurting for new recruits</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/national_guard_recruiting_boom/comment-page-1/#comment-77263</link>
		<dc:creator>DPGI v.2 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Military not hurting for new recruits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 20:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In addition, Outside the Beltway takes notice of the great success of National Guardsmen returning from their deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan in enlisting others to serve our country. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In addition, Outside the Beltway takes notice of the great success of National Guardsmen returning from their deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan in enlisting others to serve our country. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: LJD</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/national_guard_recruiting_boom/comment-page-1/#comment-76316</link>
		<dc:creator>LJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>veryretired is absolutely correct.  The MSM has been pushing the quagmire theory for so long... Unfortunately for their &#039;master plan&#039; they didn&#039;t realize they were actually encouraging young Americans to step up in droves to &#039;turn the tables&#039;.  Jokes on them (MSM).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>veryretired is absolutely correct.  The MSM has been pushing the quagmire theory for so long... Unfortunately for their 'master plan' they didn't realize they were actually encouraging young Americans to step up in droves to 'turn the tables'.  Jokes on them (MSM).</p>
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		<title>By: esmense</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/national_guard_recruiting_boom/comment-page-1/#comment-76289</link>
		<dc:creator>esmense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2006 00:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of my closest friends is a Guard recruiter. What is spurring this enthusiasm to recruit new members is a new program that provides a monetary reward to current Guard members who refer new recruits. It has really made a difference. Much increased signing bonuses are helping too, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my closest friends is a Guard recruiter. What is spurring this enthusiasm to recruit new members is a new program that provides a monetary reward to current Guard members who refer new recruits. It has really made a difference. Much increased signing bonuses are helping too, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: veryretired</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/national_guard_recruiting_boom/comment-page-1/#comment-76267</link>
		<dc:creator>veryretired</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some people with little or no exposure to those who actually serve in the military seem to believe that the scent of danger frightens current or potential soldiers. 

In fact, the very opposite is true. When the personality which relishes the chance to serve their country, who enjoys the physical and dangerous demands of soldiering, who wants to prove to themselves and other that they have what it takes to face extreme danger and challenge hears the sound of the guns, they are anxious to get into the thick of it.

I have a good friend who is a long time army Reservist, a mechanic specialist, and he was furious when his outfit was sent to Alaska to relieve another regular unit instead of being sent to GW1. 

His son joined the army after high school, went to Ranger school, and was recently sent to Iraq. Dad was so proud of him, and the son so proud of his accomplishment, they were both two feet off the ground.

Of course we worry and pray. But the fact is that he would not want anything else than to be a soldier and have his father&#039;s respect. That so few of the chattering classes know such men and women is their loss, and explains their lack of any insight into what makes stories like this one about high recruitment levels happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people with little or no exposure to those who actually serve in the military seem to believe that the scent of danger frightens current or potential soldiers. </p>
<p>In fact, the very opposite is true. When the personality which relishes the chance to serve their country, who enjoys the physical and dangerous demands of soldiering, who wants to prove to themselves and other that they have what it takes to face extreme danger and challenge hears the sound of the guns, they are anxious to get into the thick of it.</p>
<p>I have a good friend who is a long time army Reservist, a mechanic specialist, and he was furious when his outfit was sent to Alaska to relieve another regular unit instead of being sent to GW1. </p>
<p>His son joined the army after high school, went to Ranger school, and was recently sent to Iraq. Dad was so proud of him, and the son so proud of his accomplishment, they were both two feet off the ground.</p>
<p>Of course we worry and pray. But the fact is that he would not want anything else than to be a soldier and have his father's respect. That so few of the chattering classes know such men and women is their loss, and explains their lack of any insight into what makes stories like this one about high recruitment levels happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/national_guard_recruiting_boom/comment-page-1/#comment-76195</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 12:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James;

Thus proving miricles do happen, once in a while.
I&#039;ll be interested in seeing the spin in the story, however.

BTW... Tall Dave is a master</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James;</p>
<p>Thus proving miricles do happen, once in a while.<br />
I'll be interested in seeing the spin in the story, however.</p>
<p>BTW... Tall Dave is a master</p>
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		<title>By: LJD</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/national_guard_recruiting_boom/comment-page-1/#comment-76193</link>
		<dc:creator>LJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 12:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Doubling signing bonuses and re-enlistment bonuses (up to $90,000 for active duty enlisters, depending on the job) has a very real appeal to folks who have, possibly, been unemployed for extended periods or have little economic opportunity other than the military. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s an intellectually dishonest statement.  An overwhelming majority of the bonuses paid are far below that amount.  The reason the amount is so high, is because it applies to highly paid, in demand technicians- the kind that do not join the military because of very lucrative private careers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Doubling signing bonuses and re-enlistment bonuses (up to $90,000 for active duty enlisters, depending on the job) has a very real appeal to folks who have, possibly, been unemployed for extended periods or have little economic opportunity other than the military. </p></blockquote>
<p>That's an intellectually dishonest statement.  An overwhelming majority of the bonuses paid are far below that amount.  The reason the amount is so high, is because it applies to highly paid, in demand technicians- the kind that do not join the military because of very lucrative private careers.</p>
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		<title>By: Officious Pedant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Officious Pedant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 06:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While an increase in recruiting (and don&#039;t forget the increase in retention, however modest) is good news overall, there are a couple of points that can&#039;t be dismissed.

First, the military has a fairly large purse, and has been using that purse to lure new recruits and reenlisters. Doubling signing bonuses and re-enlistment bonuses (up to $90,000 for active duty enlisters, depending on the job) has a very real appeal to folks who have, possibly, been unemployed for extended periods or have little economic opportunity other than the military. School age kids with a sense of &quot;It couldn&#039;t happen to me.&quot; having a chunk of change that large waved at them is likely to get their attention.

The second element is the fact that maximum recruitment ages have been raised to 42, and the percentage of recruits allowed to score at the absolute bottom in their aptitude tests being doubled (to 4 percent), allowed the services, quite a few in fact, to meet or slightly exceed their recruitment goal. Think about that for a minute, though. 4% of 350,000 (Army Guard) is 14,000 troops whose intellect hovers just above room temperature. I&#039;m not criticizing them for their limitations. I&#039;m critical of the military seeking them out in an effort to shore up their numbers.

It&#039;s not entirely about patriotism and &quot;the friends and neighbors effect&quot;. As has been the case throughout history, it&#039;s also about economic need, modification of the minimal criteria, and reduced expectations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While an increase in recruiting (and don't forget the increase in retention, however modest) is good news overall, there are a couple of points that can't be dismissed.</p>
<p>First, the military has a fairly large purse, and has been using that purse to lure new recruits and reenlisters. Doubling signing bonuses and re-enlistment bonuses (up to $90,000 for active duty enlisters, depending on the job) has a very real appeal to folks who have, possibly, been unemployed for extended periods or have little economic opportunity other than the military. School age kids with a sense of "It couldn't happen to me." having a chunk of change that large waved at them is likely to get their attention.</p>
<p>The second element is the fact that maximum recruitment ages have been raised to 42, and the percentage of recruits allowed to score at the absolute bottom in their aptitude tests being doubled (to 4 percent), allowed the services, quite a few in fact, to meet or slightly exceed their recruitment goal. Think about that for a minute, though. 4% of 350,000 (Army Guard) is 14,000 troops whose intellect hovers just above room temperature. I'm not criticizing them for their limitations. I'm critical of the military seeking them out in an effort to shore up their numbers.</p>
<p>It's not entirely about patriotism and "the friends and neighbors effect". As has been the case throughout history, it's also about economic need, modification of the minimal criteria, and reduced expectations.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean's World</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean's World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 05:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Military&#039;s Best Recruiting Tool......&lt;/strong&gt;

...is reservists who&#039;ve come back from Iraq?...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Military's Best Recruiting Tool......</strong></p>
<p>...is reservists who've come back from Iraq?...</p>
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		<title>By: TallDave</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/national_guard_recruiting_boom/comment-page-1/#comment-76181</link>
		<dc:creator>TallDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 04:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s obvious what&#039;s happening here: People want to die in a meaningless, hopeless civil war quagmire fought for oil and to make Halliburton rich, while serving under the worst President in history.

Or, all the above could just be crap and the guys coming back are proud to have some measure of democracy and freedom to a country that had none of either before we got there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it's obvious what's happening here: People want to die in a meaningless, hopeless civil war quagmire fought for oil and to make Halliburton rich, while serving under the worst President in history.</p>
<p>Or, all the above could just be crap and the guys coming back are proud to have some measure of democracy and freedom to a country that had none of either before we got there.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 00:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bithead:  Well, is was on the front page of today&#039;s &lt;em&gt;Washington Post&lt;/em&gt;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bithead:  Well, is was on the front page of today's <em>Washington Post</em>...</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Mar 2006 23:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of this makes it a little hard to argue that they be rocky situation is descending into civil war ,Bush is a failure, yada,yada,yada. 

which of course, means that you&#039;re gonna be hard pressed to find this little statistic in the mainstream media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of this makes it a little hard to argue that they be rocky situation is descending into civil war ,Bush is a failure, yada,yada,yada. </p>
<p>which of course, means that you're gonna be hard pressed to find this little statistic in the mainstream media.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Ehrlich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Ehrlich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Mar 2006 23:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is perfectly understandable.  The men doing the job in Iraq and Afghanistan cannot get the truth of what they are doing told here at home, Ken, so they do what all good people do when they are doing something worthwhile.  They share the information with their friends and neighbors.  The left will learn (?) you cannot hide the truth forever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is perfectly understandable.  The men doing the job in Iraq and Afghanistan cannot get the truth of what they are doing told here at home, Ken, so they do what all good people do when they are doing something worthwhile.  They share the information with their friends and neighbors.  The left will learn (?) you cannot hide the truth forever.</p>
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		<title>By: G A Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>G A Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Mar 2006 21:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What wonderful news!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What wonderful news!</p>
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		<title>By: McGehee</title>
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		<dc:creator>McGehee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Mar 2006 16:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So, the Guard is using soldiers just back from a war zone as their primary marketing tool. And itâ��s working.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I can think of at least one semi-regular commenter here who&#039;s not going to like that. Heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So, the Guard is using soldiers just back from a war zone as their primary marketing tool. And itâ��s working.</p></blockquote>
<p>I can think of at least one semi-regular commenter here who's not going to like that. Heh.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Mar 2006 16:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like what the Chief of NGB told a couple of congressmen who relayed i on one of the RNC Iraq conference calls. It was more about face-to-face soldiers and not recruiters doing the recruiting (as opposed to just the combat vets.)

It was also something that the last Guard unit I was in was doing in 2000-2002. At one point there was a detail sent out every month during drill weekend to go to different places and events in the area to recruit and these carried over to events during the weeks and on non-drill weekends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like what the Chief of NGB told a couple of congressmen who relayed i on one of the RNC Iraq conference calls. It was more about face-to-face soldiers and not recruiters doing the recruiting (as opposed to just the combat vets.)</p>
<p>It was also something that the last Guard unit I was in was doing in 2000-2002. At one point there was a detail sent out every month during drill weekend to go to different places and events in the area to recruit and these carried over to events during the weeks and on non-drill weekends.</p>
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