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		<title>By: Fruits and Votes</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/national_primary/comment-page-1/#comment-110779</link>
		<dc:creator>Fruits and Votes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 19:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;A national primary?...&lt;/strong&gt;

	Some discussion this week by James and Steven about primary elections, and the broken process currently employed in the USA for selecting the major parties&#8217; presidential candidates. The discussion is prompted, in part, by the recent news that Ca...</description>
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<p>	Some discussion this week by James and Steven about primary elections, and the broken process currently employed in the USA for selecting the major parties&#8217; presidential candidates. The discussion is prompted, in part, by the recent news that Ca...</p>
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		<title>By: MSS</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/national_primary/comment-page-1/#comment-110753</link>
		<dc:creator>MSS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 18:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was in grad school long ago (OK more than 20 years ago), one of my professors (a leading scholar on US parties) circulated a draft paper entitled something like, &quot;Is it time for a national primary?&quot; The answer was yes then and is still now. Indeed, those with the money and name recognition are already in the driver&#039;s seat, and the notion that the sequential primary season with small states coming first will let a &quot;dark horse&quot; win is a quaint notion that never had much basis in reality (as Steven Taylor noted at PoliBlog this morning).

I was going to respond to &quot;just me&quot; but I couldn&#039;t really say much more than &quot;Triumph&quot; already said.

LJD: &quot;Gore lost.&quot; Yes, in the only vote count that mattered that year: The one on the Supreme Court (which the Framers--for all their other bad compromises on the national executive in order to appease small states that would have bolted the union rather than agree to democratic elections--smartly never gave any role in presidential selection).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was in grad school long ago (OK more than 20 years ago), one of my professors (a leading scholar on US parties) circulated a draft paper entitled something like, "Is it time for a national primary?" The answer was yes then and is still now. Indeed, those with the money and name recognition are already in the driver's seat, and the notion that the sequential primary season with small states coming first will let a "dark horse" win is a quaint notion that never had much basis in reality (as Steven Taylor noted at PoliBlog this morning).</p>
<p>I was going to respond to "just me" but I couldn't really say much more than "Triumph" already said.</p>
<p>LJD: "Gore lost." Yes, in the only vote count that mattered that year: The one on the Supreme Court (which the Framers--for all their other bad compromises on the national executive in order to appease small states that would have bolted the union rather than agree to democratic elections--smartly never gave any role in presidential selection).</p>
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		<title>By: PoliBlog &#8482;: A Rough Draft of my Thoughts &#187; More on the Primary Process and its Foibles</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/national_primary/comment-page-1/#comment-110735</link>
		<dc:creator>PoliBlog &#8482;: A Rough Draft of my Thoughts &#187; More on the Primary Process and its Foibles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Earlier in the week James Joyner mused about the possibility of a national primary. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Earlier in the week James Joyner mused about the possibility of a national primary. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Conservative Outpost</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/national_primary/comment-page-1/#comment-110486</link>
		<dc:creator>Conservative Outpost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;From the land of bad ideas......&lt;/strong&gt;

Outside the Beltway advocates a national primary......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>From the land of bad ideas......</strong></p>
<p>Outside the Beltway advocates a national primary......</p>
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		<title>By: LJD</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/national_primary/comment-page-1/#comment-110485</link>
		<dc:creator>LJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still sour grapes, Triumph?  Gore lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still sour grapes, Triumph?  Gore lost.</p>
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		<title>By: Triumph</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/national_primary/comment-page-1/#comment-110469</link>
		<dc:creator>Triumph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 08:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;My issue with a national primary is candidates could focus on the big states and not worry too much about the small states, and just rely on name recognition and ads. Sort of the same reason I am not all the keen on ditching the electoral college for a national majority gets the win election.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Why is this a big deal?  The small states are basically freeloaders who are getting a &quot;democracy subsidy&quot; anyway because of the lunacy of the electoral college.

The EC was a product of the same racist impulse that birthed the Three-Fifths compromise.  It is shameful that it hasn&#039;t been amended out of existence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>My issue with a national primary is candidates could focus on the big states and not worry too much about the small states, and just rely on name recognition and ads. Sort of the same reason I am not all the keen on ditching the electoral college for a national majority gets the win election.</p></blockquote>
<p>Why is this a big deal?  The small states are basically freeloaders who are getting a "democracy subsidy" anyway because of the lunacy of the electoral college.</p>
<p>The EC was a product of the same racist impulse that birthed the Three-Fifths compromise.  It is shameful that it hasn't been amended out of existence.</p>
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		<title>By: just me</title>
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		<dc:creator>just me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 01:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My issue with a national primary is candidates could focus on the big states and not worry too much about the small states, and just rely on name recognition and ads.  Sort of the same reason I am not all the keen on ditching the electoral college for a national majority gets the win election.

Also, once problem with a national primary-at least for NH is that NH law states they will hold the first primary.

Although the idea of having several dates, and randomly choosing which states hold primary or caucus for each date may solve more first concern, because candidates couldn&#039;t cherry pick easily which states they wanted to concentrate on.

One thing I would like to see is the primary season made shorter-going from Jan to June is too long.  March to June would be more suitable, although I am not sure the states with Jan or Feb dates would give them up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My issue with a national primary is candidates could focus on the big states and not worry too much about the small states, and just rely on name recognition and ads.  Sort of the same reason I am not all the keen on ditching the electoral college for a national majority gets the win election.</p>
<p>Also, once problem with a national primary-at least for NH is that NH law states they will hold the first primary.</p>
<p>Although the idea of having several dates, and randomly choosing which states hold primary or caucus for each date may solve more first concern, because candidates couldn't cherry pick easily which states they wanted to concentrate on.</p>
<p>One thing I would like to see is the primary season made shorter-going from Jan to June is too long.  March to June would be more suitable, although I am not sure the states with Jan or Feb dates would give them up.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post.</description>
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		<title>By: yetanotherjohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>yetanotherjohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you really want to change this, keep the primary schedule undecided until 4Q2007. Candidates would have to run a national &quot;pre-campaign&quot; because there would only be a 1 in 50 chance that any particular state would be first. Then you would have about 4 months of local campaign for the lucky first state and the rest would unfold as before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you really want to change this, keep the primary schedule undecided until 4Q2007. Candidates would have to run a national "pre-campaign" because there would only be a 1 in 50 chance that any particular state would be first. Then you would have about 4 months of local campaign for the lucky first state and the rest would unfold as before.</p>
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		<title>By: Triumph</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/national_primary/comment-page-1/#comment-110417</link>
		<dc:creator>Triumph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Indeed, I would argue that “only the richest candidates had a shot at winning the nomination and that no issues would be discussed in any depth whatsoever” perfectly describes the status quo, not some post-apocalyptic future.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is right on.  Remember back to the 2000 Republican primary, some of the most experienced candidates dropped out BEFORE there was even an election anywhere explicitly because they couldn&#039;t raise the cash.  All of the party&#039;s money went behind Bush.  McCain was only able to make a run for it because of the power of a then-nascent internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Indeed, I would argue that “only the richest candidates had a shot at winning the nomination and that no issues would be discussed in any depth whatsoever” perfectly describes the status quo, not some post-apocalyptic future.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is right on.  Remember back to the 2000 Republican primary, some of the most experienced candidates dropped out BEFORE there was even an election anywhere explicitly because they couldn't raise the cash.  All of the party's money went behind Bush.  McCain was only able to make a run for it because of the power of a then-nascent internet.</p>
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		<title>By: Politics in Alabama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Politics in Alabama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;“ridding process” of early candidates who cannot cut it financially or physically on the campaign trail. Now do not get me wrong, I am all for the National Primary. I tend to agree completely with James Joyner on this issue:  A national primary in, say, March, with a run-off in, say, June, would be much preferable to the way we do it now. If a candidate got 50% of the vote, heâd be the nominee. If not, the top two candidates would run against one&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-pre%-->“ridding process” of early candidates who cannot cut it financially or physically on the campaign trail. Now do not get me wrong, I am all for the National Primary. I tend to agree completely with James Joyner on this issue:  A national primary in, say, March, with a run-off in, say, June, would be much preferable to the way we do it now. If a candidate got 50% of the vote, heâd be the nominee. If not, the top two candidates would run against one<!--%kramer-post%--></p>
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