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		<title>By: The Other Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/naval_infantry_and_the_gwot/comment-page-1/#comment-149896</link>
		<dc:creator>The Other Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 20:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It is, however, grossly misleading. Yes, the military is stressed by the high opstempo — as it was during the 1990s when Clinton was sending them to parts unknown on missions having little if anything to do with U.S. national security. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Isn&#039;t this grossly misleading?  The military is stressed to a much higher degree today than at any time during the 1990s.  Even though we had deployments of Guard and Reserves during the 1990s for operations in Kosovo, we did not have nearly as large of a number deployed, and we certainly were not extending tours of duty like we are today.

I think I&#039;m going to write a two page diatribe about how James Joyner is grossly misleading in attacking Clinton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It is, however, grossly misleading. Yes, the military is stressed by the high opstempo — as it was during the 1990s when Clinton was sending them to parts unknown on missions having little if anything to do with U.S. national security. </p></blockquote>
<p>Isn't this grossly misleading?  The military is stressed to a much higher degree today than at any time during the 1990s.  Even though we had deployments of Guard and Reserves during the 1990s for operations in Kosovo, we did not have nearly as large of a number deployed, and we certainly were not extending tours of duty like we are today.</p>
<p>I think I'm going to write a two page diatribe about how James Joyner is grossly misleading in attacking Clinton.</p>
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		<title>By: Balloon Juice</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/naval_infantry_and_the_gwot/comment-page-1/#comment-149872</link>
		<dc:creator>Balloon Juice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] James Joyner has more on the Navy issue. His analysis- Clinton is stretching the truth slightly. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] James Joyner has more on the Navy issue. His analysis- Clinton is stretching the truth slightly. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/naval_infantry_and_the_gwot/comment-page-1/#comment-149814</link>
		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;It is fairly correct.&lt;/em&gt;

Then Clinton&#039;s wonkish desire to show off his intimate familiarity with matters of which he is ignorant, while a typical character flaw of his, doesn&#039;t seem terribly important (though it IS exactly the kind of thing I&#039;m happy to see a blog post correction for, b/c blogs are wonderful for the Not Terribly Important).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>It is fairly correct.</em></p>
<p>Then Clinton's wonkish desire to show off his intimate familiarity with matters of which he is ignorant, while a typical character flaw of his, doesn't seem terribly important (though it IS exactly the kind of thing I'm happy to see a blog post correction for, b/c blogs are wonderful for the Not Terribly Important).</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/naval_infantry_and_the_gwot/comment-page-1/#comment-149796</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Okay, but is Clinton&#039;s point -- that we don&#039;t have Army, Marine, NG, or Reserve forces to meet any emergency threat -- correct?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It is fairly correct.  The troops that are currently at home are basically occupied with retraining, resting, and rebuilding.  In an ultra-extreme scenario, such as a land invasion of CONUS, they would certainly be available.  However, they are not combat ready for deployment to a new theater in any sort of reasonable time frame.

Perhaps even more important is the logistics issue: there is a severe lack of usable materiel for the ground forces.  Everything is getting chewed up in Iraq.

Luckily, most of the potential threats (even serious ones like an invasion of Taiwan) could and would be countered by Air Force and Navy power.  However, it seems foolish to lack a standing emergency reserve of ground forces, especially more than 4 years into an occupation.  This failure to expand the ground forces is criminal negligence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Okay, but is Clinton's point -- that we don't have Army, Marine, NG, or Reserve forces to meet any emergency threat -- correct?</p></blockquote>
<p>It is fairly correct.  The troops that are currently at home are basically occupied with retraining, resting, and rebuilding.  In an ultra-extreme scenario, such as a land invasion of CONUS, they would certainly be available.  However, they are not combat ready for deployment to a new theater in any sort of reasonable time frame.</p>
<p>Perhaps even more important is the logistics issue: there is a severe lack of usable materiel for the ground forces.  Everything is getting chewed up in Iraq.</p>
<p>Luckily, most of the potential threats (even serious ones like an invasion of Taiwan) could and would be countered by Air Force and Navy power.  However, it seems foolish to lack a standing emergency reserve of ground forces, especially more than 4 years into an occupation.  This failure to expand the ground forces is criminal negligence.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/naval_infantry_and_the_gwot/comment-page-1/#comment-149792</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;as it was during the 1990s when Clinton was sending them to parts unknown on missions having little if anything to do with U.S. national security.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
This is a sadly amusing rehash of Gingrich et al.&#039;s talking points from the mid-90&#039;s, but it seems fairly ridiculous now.  You&#039;re comparing the relatively quite peaceful, small, and short term deployments of the military during the Clinton administration to the overlong, dangerous, and repeated deployments of the Iraq war?

Good grief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>as it was during the 1990s when Clinton was sending them to parts unknown on missions having little if anything to do with U.S. national security.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is a sadly amusing rehash of Gingrich et al.'s talking points from the mid-90's, but it seems fairly ridiculous now.  You're comparing the relatively quite peaceful, small, and short term deployments of the military during the Clinton administration to the overlong, dangerous, and repeated deployments of the Iraq war?</p>
<p>Good grief.</p>
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		<title>By: spencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 16:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You going to bring back the tall ships too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You going to bring back the tall ships too?</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 16:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, but is Clinton&#039;s point -- that we don&#039;t have Army, Marine, NG, or Reserve forces to meet any emergency threat -- correct?  

Because I don&#039;t know, and the answer to that seems more significant than any detail about Naval infantry (didn&#039;t those used to be called &quot;Marines&quot;?) or whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, but is Clinton's point -- that we don't have Army, Marine, NG, or Reserve forces to meet any emergency threat -- correct?  </p>
<p>Because I don't know, and the answer to that seems more significant than any detail about Naval infantry (didn't those used to be called "Marines"?) or whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: Triumph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Triumph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 16:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go Navy!  Beat Army!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go Navy!  Beat Army!</p>
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